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I was not charged for the international sms when I activated iMessage and FaceTime while I was on vivifi previously.

Same, have not been charged for the activation sms before since i signed up early last year.
Thanks for the info. My last experience getting charged for the overseas SMS in recent times was with both GOMO and Singtel. :s13:

Interesting that Vivifi doesn't. I know Starhub didn't bill me either in the past.

It was narrowed down to iMessage/Facetime activation because I don't SMS my friends/contacts overseas - pretty sure it's either iMessage (blue, "fallback to SMS" disabled) or Telegram. Seems like WhatsApp is not very popular overseas in US/Europe/Australia, so that's kinda funny how crazy popular it is here. It is crazy popular in India though.
 

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Thanks for the info. My last experience getting charged for the overseas SMS in recent times was with both GOMO and Singtel. :s13:

Interesting that Vivifi doesn't. I know Starhub didn't bill me either in the past.

It was narrowed down to iMessage/Facetime activation because I don't SMS my friends/contacts overseas - pretty sure it's either iMessage (blue, "fallback to SMS" disabled) or Telegram. Seems like WhatsApp is not very popular overseas in US/Europe/Australia, so that's kinda funny how crazy popular it is here. It is crazy popular in India though.
Fyi. Even zym under Singtel also never charge that.
 

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Hi, any1 knows how long will it take for the sim card to be ready for collection? Let's say i register today
 

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Hi all, just ported from gomo to vivifi. Porting took 1 day. Everything went smoothly. If you want to get email confirmation faster for self collection, can message them at the fb page, they reply relatively fast. If anyone need referral code, can pm me. Thank you!
 

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Thanks for the info. My last experience getting charged for the overseas SMS in recent times was with both GOMO and Singtel. :s13:

Interesting that Vivifi doesn't. I know Starhub didn't bill me either in the past.

It was narrowed down to iMessage/Facetime activation because I don't SMS my friends/contacts overseas - pretty sure it's either iMessage (blue, "fallback to SMS" disabled) or Telegram. Seems like WhatsApp is not very popular overseas in US/Europe/Australia, so that's kinda funny how crazy popular it is here. It is crazy popular in India though.
What do people in US prefer? Hangouts? Messenger? Telegram? Signal? Or SMS?
 

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What do people in US prefer? Hangouts? Messenger? Telegram? Signal? Or SMS?
Depends on age group, to be fair. Snapchat and Messenger, for those friends I still keep in contact with - I don't use Snapchat but I know others who do with their US friends. Younger folks (young adults and younger) are very heavily into iMessage, so the green bubble syndrome is still a thing for them.
https://www.androidauthority.com/green-bubble-phenomenon-1021350/
WhatsApp for boomers and non iOS folks. :s13:

But another interesting trend - they don't change phones the way we do in Singapore. We change way too often compared to them, many who use the phones for a few years.
 

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Depends on age group, to be fair. Snapchat and Messenger, for those friends I still keep in contact with - I don't use Snapchat but I know others who do with their US friends. Younger folks (young adults and younger) are very heavily into iMessage, so the green bubble syndrome is still a thing for them.
https://www.androidauthority.com/green-bubble-phenomenon-1021350/
WhatsApp for boomers and non iOS folks. :s13:

But another interesting trend - they don't change phones the way we do in Singapore. We change way too often compared to them, many who use the phones for a few years.
Yeah, read the article... but then iPhones seem to be the predominant phone in the US - that would explain why iMessage is preferred... otherwise the SMS charges will be a killer (if non-iPhone sends message it must be through SMS right? Don't know how it works in group chats though since iMessage doesn't work on Android)... don't think they have students unlimited SMS plans in the US? I am given to understand that the mobile subscription plans are pretty expensive in US...
 
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Yeah, read the article... but then iPhones seem to be the predominant phone in the US - that would explain why iMessage is preferred... otherwise the SMS charges will be a killer (if non-iPhone sends message it must be through SMS right? Don't know how it works in group chats though since iMessage doesn't work on Android)... don't think they have students unlimited SMS plans in the US? I am given to understand that the mobile subscription plans are pretty expensive in US...
Last I recall, it's free for all iMessage group chats. Until one non iMessage user joins, then it becomes SMSes to everyone. That's when people reluctantly move to WhatsApp - but with the corresponding social stigma that happens. It gets quite bad sometimes.

Then again, iPhones have pretty long life - can last 6y or so for many users, so the cost divided over that time works out to be fairly acceptable for many people. Apple also supports their phones with around 6 full software upgrades so far, so it reinforces the longevity. Unlike here in Singapore where there's a culture of changing every 1-2y. I remembered when my friends from Australia came to visit, and they were shocked at how many people were changing phones. We were standing outside the Singtel, M1 and StarHub shops at Bugis and they were watching as people were trading in "perfectly good phones" just to get the latest version. Was quite an eye opener for me when I realised how much money I used to waste changing phones every 2y even though the phones were still pretty good.
 

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Last I recall, it's free for all iMessage group chats. Until one non iMessage user joins, then it becomes SMSes to everyone. That's when people reluctantly move to WhatsApp - but with the corresponding social stigma that happens. It gets quite bad sometimes.

Then again, iPhones have pretty long life - can last 6y or so for many users, so the cost divided over that time works out to be fairly acceptable for many people. Apple also supports their phones with around 6 full software upgrades so far, so it reinforces the longevity. Unlike here in Singapore where there's a culture of changing every 1-2y. I remembered when my friends from Australia came to visit, and they were shocked at how many people were changing phones. We were standing outside the Singtel, M1 and StarHub shops at Bugis and they were watching as people were trading in "perfectly good phones" just to get the latest version. Was quite an eye opener for me when I realised how much money I used to waste changing phones every 2y even though the phones were still pretty good.
Yup yup... I wonder if these US kids using iMessage even know how much they're frittering away on their messaging on their phones... a platform-agnostic app and free wifi is the way to go to be inclusive... but what do we know about being inclusive eh?

Agree about changing phones... I used to get company allowance to do so... now that it's stopped I also stopped upgrading my phone... been using the samsung Galaxy Note8 since 2017... still very good... not intending to change until it kaputs... but then if don't have all these phone enthusiasts playing early adopters and paying top dollar, innovation will slow down leh... haha...
 

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VIVIFI BINGE 50GB/70GB

[Free 30GB for non-Singtel port-in]


Binge 50GB: 80GB at $18
Binge 70GB: 100GB at $25


For this plan. does it mean after 12 months. is forever $18 for 50GB?
 
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