What is wrong with posting about DEI handicap @ pager function?

[clon33]

Hi admin

1)
Kindly let me know who is the activist HWZ moderator who infracted me for this post?
Thank you.

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/crazy-management.7103727/page-3#post-155276549


2)
Is the @ pager function used to invite active HWZ users into a thread to promote discussion?
This is a yes or no question.

For context, every time there is a discussion about specific topics (e.g. accounting degree, accounting job, accounting industry etc), there will be HWZ users who will use the @ pager function to invite HWZ user Shion into the thread to discuss. Because he has shared that he graduated with a degree in accounting, and is active in threads about the topic.


3)
The infraction was categorized as "Forum Nuisance (Trolling / Posting Rubbish / Troublemaker / etc.)"

I cite below your HWZ content policy Rule 1 which states "not for attacking those who may be marginalized or vulnerable".

"Rule 1
Remember that you’re interacting with other humans. HardwareZone Forums is a place for sharing and discussion, not for attacking those who may be marginalized or vulnerable. Everyone is entitled to use our forums without harassment, violence, or cyber-bullying. Members that incite violence or promote hate in any form or manner may be penalised in accordance with our Warning System." https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/help/content_policy/

My infracted post clearly states "DEI handicap expert @ congster".
Everything to the left of the word "expert" are adjectives.
So the words "DEI handicap" are adjectives.
The word "expert" is the noun.
And the @ pager function is used to invite the HWZ user congster into the thread to promote discussion.
Similar to how HWZ users are paging Shion whenever the thread topic is about "accounting".


For the activist HWZ moderator, please explain.

What is wrong with using the adjectives "DEI handicap"?
When the HWZ user congster
- has been actively posting in DEI threads
- and is actively advocating DEI affirmative action for handicap at his workplace


What is wrong with using the noun "expert"?
When the HWZ user congster
- claims that he is a hiring manager
- claims that he has used incentives to encourage managers to hire disabled staff by increasing their budget


What is wrong with using the @ pager function to invite the HWZ user congster to a thread topic about handicap?
When the HWZ user congster
- is actively participating in at least 2 HWZ threads regarding Boeing DEI, and Google DEI
- and the thread topic is about handicap?

If the activist HWZ moderator who infracted me cannot give me a reasonable explanation on how the rules are applied. Then I will also become a activist HWZ user and @ paging Dr. Vijay directly to ask what is wrong for this case?


https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...dropping-diversity-recruitment-goals.7103170/

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...ogram-and-fires-their-diversity-boss.7077293/

 

[cranthir]

pls refer to sticky on ad hominin and name calling.

tagging with name calling is considered harassment
especially when the person being tagged reported you.

pls stick to thread topic and stop abusing the tag function to harrass and label people whose view you do not agree with.

 

[clon33]

Hi Cranthir

CC: @Dr.Vijay

I refer you to my original thread in Feedback Channel, in which you made false allegations about me without evidence, and closed the thread arbitrarily without allowing HWZ users to clarify how you applied the rules.

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...ng-about-dei-handicap-pager-function.7106219/

You failed as a moderator, because you refuse to show how you applied the rules.
What are you afraid of?

1)
Let's be transparent here. You asked me to refer to the sticky on ad hominin and name calling.

Please define the exact words which you accused me of
- "ad hominin"
- "name calling"

Are you implying that the words "DEI handicap expert" is the cause of the infraction?
This is a yes or no question.


2)
Please cite the dictionary that you are using?
I will use your dictionary to prove that you are wrong in applying the rules.

- "diversity, equity, inclusivity (DEI)"
- "handicap"
- "expert"

Not only are you engaging in strawman fallacy, by misrepresenting the words used in my post to accuse me of ad hominin, name calling, and harassment.

But your own parent company SPH owned Straits Times has no problems using adjectives + nouns such as "Military Expert" or "Climate policy expert" to describe people and what they do in their occupation.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singap...inst-hidden-threats-mindef-scholarship-centre

https://www.straitstimes.com/busine...t-just-carbon-emissions-climate-policy-expert

3)
You stated that
- "the person being tagged reported you"
- "stop abusing the tag function"
- "harass and label people whose view you do not agree with"

Are you okay or not?

I tagged congster 1 time only.
On what basis do you accuse me of abusing the tag function?
I invited the most active member of HWZ (congster), who claims to be a hiring manager, and even used his position to incentivize managers to hire handicap. He is active in at least 2 DEI threads, and his posts show that he is constantly advocating for hiring of handicap staff.

On what basis do you accuse me of "harass and label people whose view you do not agree with"?
When the
- thread title is "Crazy management?"
- opening post with keywords "handicap" and "any thoughts"

What is wrong with inviting the most active member of HWZ (congster) that constantly advocates on DEI and and handicap hiring in the workplace, to come into the thread to share his thoughts. If not him, then who?

Do you want to make EDMW great again?

Or are you giving infractions based on
- sensitive people complaints?
- instead of actual rule breaches?

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/crazy-management.7103727/page-3#post-155276549

Thread Title	"Crazy management?"
Opening Post	"o apparently, just now my work higher up asked whether I know how to connect to the TV screen and I said no cos I don't use it (note i'm not from IT dept nor my work requires me connecting to that TV screen). then she commented the word "handicap". any thoughts?"
Key Words	"she commented the word "handicap" "any thoughts?"
Infracted post	"You need to ask DEI handicap expert congster2 to speak with your boss."

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...dropping-diversity-recruitment-goals.7103170/

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...ogram-and-fires-their-diversity-boss.7077293/

 

[cranthir]

@congster2

do you feel that he is harassing you by tagging you and calling a DEI expert?

if you think that its a compliment then I will remove his points

 

[clon33]

@congster2

do you feel that he is harassing you by tagging you and calling a DEI expert?

if you think that its a compliment then I will remove his points

1)
As a HWZ moderator, are you aware of the gravity of words used by you in this thread, when you accused me of harassing another HWZ user?

Harassment is a criminal offence under Protection of Harassment Act 2014.
Yes or no?

https://sso.agc.gov.sg/Act/PHA2014?ProvIds=pr3-

Protection from Harassment Act 2014 s.3

Intentionally causing harassment, alarm or distress

3.—(1) An individual or entity must not, with intent to cause harassment, alarm or distress to another person (called in this section the target person), by any means — (a) use any threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour; (b) make any threatening, abusive or insulting communication; or (c) publish any identity information of the target person or a related person of the target person, and as a result causing the target person or any other person (each called in this section the victim) harassment, alarm or distress.

2)
The issue was never about HWZ user congster. He is free to report any post. Or feel sensitive about my post. He is not an agent of HWZ.

My problem is with you. You are a HWZ moderator, which means that you are the agent of the principal HWZ. There is vicarious liability for HWZ, as the principal can be held responsible for the acts of the agent.

And you persist to engage in strawman fallacy, by misrepresenting the words used in my post to accuse me of ad hominin, name calling, and even accuse me of harassing another HWZ user which is a criminal offence under POHA.

3)
The HWZ user congster himself used the words "DEI", "handicap" in multiple posts and threads to describe himself and his job.

So on what basis do you accuse me of
- "ad hominin" ?
- "name calling" ?
- "stop abusing the tag function" ?
- "harass and label people whose view you do not agree with" ?

The most ironic thing is your parent company SPH owned Straits Times has no problems using adjectives + nouns such as "Military Expert" or "Climate policy expert" to describe people and what they do in their occupation.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singap...inst-hidden-threats-mindef-scholarship-centre

https://www.straitstimes.com/busine...t-just-carbon-emissions-climate-policy-expert

4)
According to you, congster is a victim.

Then how am I not a victim?
Being accused of a criminal offence of harassment by a HWZ moderator?

 

[cranthir]

if there is no further comment from him, will lock thread by midnight

 

[clon33]

@congster2

do you feel that he is harassing you by tagging you and calling a DEI expert?

if you think that its a compliment then I will remove his points

@Dr.Vijay

1)
Can you please cite where in your HWZ rules does it state that a HWZ moderator has the discretion to

- outsource his duties to HWZ users?
- outsource his judgement and authority to mete out infractions to HWZ users who are not moderators?

For this case, the HWZ moderator Cranthir has clearly stated his intention to allow HWZ user congster, who is not a moderator, to decide whether my post will remain infracted or have the infraction points removed.

Has this HWZ moderator Cranthir overstepped the boundaries set by HWZ moderation team?

2)
Can you please cite where in your HWZ rules does it state that a HWZ moderator has the discretion to instigate HWZ forum members to make false and defamatory statements?

For this case, the HWZ moderator Cranthir has clearly asked the HWZ user congster to accuse me of a harassment, which is a criminal offence under POHA law.

Has this HWZ moderator Cranthir overstepped the boundaries set by HWZ moderation team?

3)
The HWZ user congster himself used the words "DEI", "handicap" in multiple posts and threads to describe himself and his job.

So on what basis does the HWZ moderator Cranthir accuse me of
- "ad hominin" ?
- "name calling" ?
- "stop abusing the tag function" ?
- "harass and label people whose view you do not agree with" ?

The most ironic thing is your parent company SPH owned Straits Times has no problems using adjectives + nouns such as "Military Expert" or "Climate policy expert" to describe people and what they do in their occupation.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singap...inst-hidden-threats-mindef-scholarship-centre

https://www.straitstimes.com/busine...t-just-carbon-emissions-climate-policy-expert

4)
I feel very harassed, alarmed, and distressed by the repeated actions of your HWZ moderator Cranthir to threaten, abuse, and insult me.

This HWZ moderator Cranthir reports to you Dr. Vijay as part of the moderation team.

Are you able to control your HWZ moderators? Or do I have to make a police report?

https://sso.agc.gov.sg/Act/PHA2014?ProvIds=pr3-

Protection from Harassment Act 2014 s.3

Intentionally causing harassment, alarm or distress

3.—(1) An individual or entity must not, with intent to cause harassment, alarm or distress to another person (called in this section the target person), by any means — (a) use any threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour; (b) make any threatening, abusive or insulting communication; or (c) publish any identity information of the target person or a related person of the target person, and as a result causing the target person or any other person (each called in this section the victim) harassment, alarm or distress.

 

[Dragon]

Checked on the post. User congster2 did made a report on 10 Feb 2025 complaining that clon33's post was trying to provoke him. Thus action was taken by the Moderators to prevent or stop any harassment on our forums.

May this help to clarify and have a good day.