WiFi 7 Device SpeedTest and WiFi 7 adapters

[xiaofan]

This be805 seems quite unstable. Keeps disconnecting.

What kind of devices get disconnecting? You may want to factory reset and set up again. For IOT devices, you may want to create an 2.4GHz Guest Network for them.

Some of the stability issues of TP-Link Archer BE805 may be related to MLO and you may want to disable MLO. Seperate 2.4GHz and 5GHz band may help as well.

Placement of the wireless router is also important.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...home-networking.6653421/page-3#post-149371244

 

[Jun Jun]

What kind of devices get disconnecting? You may want to factory reset and set up again. For IOT devices, you may want to create an 2.4GHz Guest Network for them.

Some of the stability issues of TP-Link Archer BE805 may be related to MLO and you may want to disable MLO. Seperate 2.4GHz and 5GHz band may help as well.

Placement of the wireless router is also important.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...home-networking.6653421/page-3#post-149371244

Thank u. Yes did all that. Phones

 

[Jun Jun]

Changed the routers

 

[yooooz84]

Upgrade your Windows 11 version to 24H2 if you have not done that.

Upgrade your WiFi driver as well, depending on your laptop model.

If that does not help, contact Lenovo for help. Realtek usually is the worst WiFi adpter out there, much worse than Intel/Qualcomm/Mediatek.

just to update - Lenovo support remote into my laptop to check the settings and reinstall the drivers but still cannot see the 6ghz SSID. He says will escalate my case.

 

[yooooz84]

just to update - Lenovo support remote into my laptop to check the settings and reinstall the drivers but still cannot see the 6ghz SSID. He says will escalate my case.

Serviceman came down to change the wifi card to MediaTek MT7925.
Not sure if this is comparable to the previous Realtek 8922AE WiFi 7 PCI-E NIC, but i can connect to 6Ghz with the MediaTek one.

 

[xiaofan]

Serviceman came down to change the wifi card to MediaTek MT7925.
Not sure if this is comparable to the previous Realtek 8922AE WiFi 7 PCI-E NIC, but i can connect to 6Ghz with the MediaTek one.

This should be much better than the lousy Realtek 8922AE.

 

[JB_King]

I created one SSID for all 3 bands but my WIFI7 adapter always tends to connect to the 5Ghz band

 

[icecap]

Hi, just got my Starhub 3gbps connected today. Using the provided Tplink HB410 router. Is the below speed reasonable? Avg is 1.3-1.5gbps. Off peak is higher like this 1.6-1.7gbps. Sometimes can be lower at 800-900mbps at peak hours.

Using Motorola Razr 50 Ultra which has wifi7. HB410 has no 6ghz band so probably bottlenecked by it. But if the below speed is almost squeezing out the best of the router I would think it's OK already. Because I don't have any other routers to compare to tell if this is nearing the max capability of HB410.

Deciding if I should get another HB410 to just simply use it as mesh node in master bedroom or sell this away and get 2x Xiaomi BE6500 or ZTE BE6800 Pro+. Will these two models be fetching significantly higher speed than this? Thanks in advance.

Link speed 2401mbps with MLO 2.4/5, at a distance of about 1.5m from router.

At 2.30am with a different server

 

[ferocity]

MSI Herald-BE WI-FI 7 MAX going for $55.69(+$10.85 for shipping for non-prime members) on Amazon SG. Is this any good?

 

[kimsix]

MSI Herald-BE WI-FI 7 MAX going for $55.69(+$10.85 for shipping for non-prime members) on Amazon SG. Is this any good?

It is the best for amd at the moment, i use it no problem at all.

 

[kappak]

MSI Herald-BE WI-FI 7 MAX going for $55.69(+$10.85 for shipping for non-prime members) on Amazon SG. Is this any good?

55 consider cheap coz taobao buy the wifi chip alone already around this price or higher.

 

[xiaofan]

Hi, just got my Starhub 3gbps connected today. Using the provided Tplink HB410 router. Is the below speed reasonable? Avg is 1.3-1.5gbps. Off peak is higher like this 1.6-1.7gbps. Sometimes can be lower at 800-900mbps at peak hours.

Using Motorola Razr 50 Ultra which has wifi7. HB410 has no 6ghz band so probably bottlenecked by it. But if the below speed is almost squeezing out the best of the router I would think it's OK already. Because I don't have any other routers to compare to tell if this is nearing the max capability of HB410.

Deciding if I should get another HB410 to just simply use it as mesh node in master bedroom or sell this away and get 2x Xiaomi BE6500 or ZTE BE6800 Pro+. Will these two models be fetching significantly higher speed than this? Thanks in advance.

Link speed 2401mbps with MLO 2.4/5, at a distance of about 1.5m from router.

At 2.30am with a different server

The speed achieved are very good for dual band WiFi 7 routers (without 6GHz band).

Xiaomi BE6500 and ZTE BE6800 Pro+ will not really get better speed than the above.

However, as a mesh solution, TP-Link EasyMesh is not that mature, with quite some limitations as of now. Roaming performance is also not that great as per the review from Dongknows.

1) TP-Link EasyMesh FAQ
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/support/faq/3529/

2) Dongknows review of TP-Link EasyMesh
https://dongknows.com/tp-link-easymesh-wi-fi-system-review/

 

[xiaofan]

No so sure when the 6GHz congestion will become a real issue, but today I see the first 6GHz band with pretty strong signal (> -60 dBm) from the neighbour.

Interestingly the AP's name is "OpenWRT AP" and the brand is TP-Link (with one 2.4GHz/5GHz SSID and one 6GHz SSID). So looks like the neighbour may be using similar setup as my own setup -- OpenWRT main router + Asus/TP-Link WiFi 7 AP.

 

[xiaofan]

WiFi 7 performance -- 3.5m away
Wireless router -- TP-Link Archer BE805
Wireless client -- Acer Swift Go 14 2024 model, with Intel Killer BE1750 WiFi 7 adapter (Intel BE200 chipset based).

1) 6GHz SSID, 320MHz channel bandwidth

PS C:\work\networking\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     3.44 ms   (jitter: 0.39ms, low: 2.98ms, high: 3.89ms)
    Download:  2601.01 Mbps (data used: 4.5 GB)
                 10.10 ms   (jitter: 4.27ms, low: 3.91ms, high: 22.32ms)
      Upload:  1641.27 Mbps (data used: 2.7 GB)
                  7.17 ms   (jitter: 9.72ms, low: 2.48ms, high: 132.09ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/e7a26566-3bf1-490a-bbb9-bca572db6a5c

2) 5GHz SSID, 160MHz channel bandwidth

PS C:\work\networking\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     3.50 ms   (jitter: 0.35ms, low: 3.03ms, high: 3.91ms)
    Download:  1831.91 Mbps (data used: 3.3 GB)
                 12.41 ms   (jitter: 4.94ms, low: 5.02ms, high: 25.34ms)
      Upload:  1101.79 Mbps (data used: 781.4 MB)
                  9.91 ms   (jitter: 5.27ms, low: 3.31ms, high: 33.88ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/4447a0ce-8d31-4752-a03a-dbfb3f6b0056

3) 2.4GHz band, 20MHz channel bandwidth

PS C:\work\networking\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     4.02 ms   (jitter: 1.86ms, low: 3.24ms, high: 10.70ms)
    Download:   176.73 Mbps (data used: 151.1 MB)
                 27.11 ms   (jitter: 17.31ms, low: 4.63ms, high: 91.72ms)
      Upload:   125.10 Mbps (data used: 196.7 MB)
                160.08 ms   (jitter: 51.52ms, low: 6.26ms, high: 352.85ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/6b639ca0-4759-445a-8ea3-8fc954473b65

4) 2.4GHz + 6GHz MLO -- still broken

PS C:\work\networking\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     3.30 ms   (jitter: 0.35ms, low: 2.86ms, high: 3.51ms)
    Download:    74.70 Mbps (data used: 140.8 MB)
                182.33 ms   (jitter: 96.42ms, low: 2.55ms, high: 637.27ms)
      Upload:   752.71 Mbps (data used: 1.2 GB)
                 68.50 ms   (jitter: 62.70ms, low: 3.20ms, high: 508.60ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/8407c347-70a7-4a8f-992c-c06657855de7

 

[xiaofan]

1. Asus MLO FAQ
https://www.asus.com/sg/support/faq/1053342/

For MLO on ASUS routers, we support both modes, however, it will base on client devices supported modes.

STR (Simultaneous Transmit and Receive): This mode allows devices to manage multiple Wi-Fi connections on different channels or frequencies simultaneously. For most phone devices currently, support 2GHz+ 5GHz only.

eMLSR (Enhanced Multi-Link-Single-Radio): EMLSR mode focuses on optimizing the setup and recovery processes of multi-link operations. It enhances the efficiency of establishing and maintaining multiple WiFi connections, especially in environments where network conditions can change rapidly.

...
2. The MLO Backhaul function can help your AiMesh routers and nodes achieve optimal connection bandwidth. In an AiMesh system, if there are multiple WiFi 7 nodes, only the first node can use MLO Backhaul, and MLO Backhaul only supports the same model
...

2. TP-Link WiFi 7 FAQ
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/support/faq/3594/

Q9. Will the MLO network improve my wireless performance?
It depends on the MLO type of the client, if it’s 2G+6G STR MLMR, then the performance might not raise a lot; If the client supports 5G+6G STR MLMR, it will raise the performance than pure 6G connection a lot.

 

[xiaofan]

Some WiFi 7 test results from Ubiquiti forum. The tester only has one WiFi 7 client which is the USB WiFi 7 adapter (Comfast CF-987BE) which does not support 320MHz channel bandwidth on the 6GHz band.
https://community.ui.com/questions/...niFi-APs/6015ed91-df37-4938-bf0a-a0723ffa8307

 

[xiaofan]

Dongknows test results of Ubiquiti Unifi Wireless performances: UX7, UDR7 and U7 Pro XGS.

His test results at 10 feet seem to be realistic, even though I feel a bit on the lower side.

https://dongknows.com/ubiquiti-ux7-unifi-express-7-review/
https://dongknows.com/ubiquiti-udr7-unifi-dream-router-7-review/
https://dongknows.com/ubiquiti-u7-pro-xgs-review/

 

[xiaofan]

Ubiquiti FAQ on MLO -- you can see they emphasize Latency Reduction and Connection Stability than Throughput Gains.
https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/25656226682775-Multi-Link-Operation-MLO-in-UniFi-Network

Why Use MLO?​

Enabling MLO can offer a number of practical benefits for modern networks:

• Reduced latency, especially in high-density environments.
• Improved reliability by allowing clients to maintain multiple links.
• Better performance in congested areas by distributing traffic across bands.
• Enhanced throughput for supported clients.

Types of Multi-Link Operation​

The way a client uses MLO depends on its hardware. Here are the main types:

• MLSR (Multi-Link Single Radio)
  • The client connects on multiple channels but uses a single radio that can only operate on one band at a time (i.e., it switches between bands).
• EMLSR (Enhanced Multi-Link Single Radio)
  • The client still uses a single radio but can listen on multiple bands while transmitting on just one. This improves latency in crowded networks.
• Async MLMR (Asynchronous Multi-Link Multi-Radio)
  • A client uses multiple radios to transmit and receive simultaneously across different bands, with each link operating independently without tight synchronization.
• Sync MLMR (Synchronous Multi-Link Multi-Radio)
  • The client uses multiple radios to transmit and receive simultaneously across different bands, with transmissions coordinated and synchronized across the links.

These client types determine how MLO behaves in practice, especially in terms of latency and throughput.

What to Expect When Enabling MLO​

The impact of MLO depends entirely on the client’s capabilities:

• Latency Reduction
  • MLO can improve performance in dense environments by allowing clients to quickly switch to less congested links or listen on multiple bands simultaneously.
• Connection Stability
  • Clients can select the most stable link in real time, improving reliability in areas with fluctuating signal quality. This makes MLO a great choice for optimizing call quality.
• Throughput Gains
  • While not guaranteed, clients with support for simultaneous transmission and reception with multi-radio setups may see better speeds when connected to an MLO capable UniFi AP.

 

[xiaofan]

Good WiFi 7 Speed for Ubiquiti UniFi U7 Pro XG and Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra, by @kashix.

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...rk-in-progress.5680023/page-93#post-156777394

Your setup exact same as mine, Starhub 5Gbps. The XG uplink to my 10G Router, powered by the PoE+ 2.5G Adapter but was able to get some good results on my S25 Ultra.

Setup:
S25 Ultra
BE WiFi 7 320MHz

 

[kashix]

Good WiFi 7 Speed for Ubiquiti UniFi U7 Pro XG and Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra, by @kashix.

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...rk-in-progress.5680023/page-93#post-156777394

Just to add-on to this post quoted,

Samsung for some reason, have some sort of Wi-Fi throttling on their S25 Ultra with no way to turn it off, It used to be able to turn it off on S24 Ultra. The setting is not there for the S25 ultra. If not I'm confident that I can cross 4Gbps easily.