Working Shoe for Young Exec - Part 2

[thundermarch]

any nice driving shoes to recommend?

J Fitz has got a whole bunch of new designs. Pretty good looking driving loafers I
must say. Price isn't too crazy as well

 

[All in a Day]

J Fitz has got a whole bunch of new designs. Pretty good looking driving loafers I
must say. Price isn't too crazy as well

Would second that suggestion. Although one could possibly get the 'branded' driving loafers (think tods, car shoes) at similar prices during sales.

 

[theRenaissance]

How much of a difference is there in your opinion? Pigment density, colour saturation, grit size?

Also any opinion on the best burgundy tone cream out there? Saphir's a little too purple for me I think

Based on what I have seen, Saphir's cremes, especially the Medaille d'or versions, fare better with regards to re-saturating the fiber and for recoloring (in my opinion, the most important benefit in using creme polishes). It also seem to have a higher concentration of turpentine and beeswax, which is hugely beneficial for those who do not subscribe to wax polishing.

If you wish for more reddish hues for cremes, you can try mixing equal portions of Mahogany creme into Burgundy. It helps.

Thank you so much, do you have any recommended products in specific for the above-mentioned care? For waterspray product, is Meltonian waterproof spray is it ok?

There are many options in the market now - Kiwi, Collonil, Tarrago, Saphir etc. For waterproofing spray, try Nano Protector from Tarrago, or Invulner spray from Saphir.

 

[likehotbutter]

Based on what I have seen, Saphir's cremes, especially the Medaille d'or versions, fare better with regards to re-saturating the fiber and for recoloring (in my opinion, the most important benefit in using creme polishes). It also seem to have a higher concentration of turpentine and beeswax, which is hugely beneficial for those who do not subscribe to wax polishing.

If you wish for more reddish hues for cremes, you can try mixing equal portions of Mahogany creme into Burgundy.

Thanks man. Good to know

 

[All in a Day]

anyone has loake and AE shoes, can help me on the sizing? Im looking to purchase AE shoes (penny loafers) off eBay but i really can't decide the size. i tried the AE sizing guide (size 8)but from the measurements provided from the seller, seems that i can fit 1/2- 1size smaller. I prefer a snug fit though.
I was thinking to go robinson to try the Loake shoes and can gauge my size from there. or just order from amazon and pay 7% GST and return shipping

There are lots of factors you need to consider: the shoe last (which determines the shoe shape), your own feet peculiarities (flat foot, high arch, wide/narrow feet etc) and shoe design (penny loafers in your case).

For AE, a starting point could be reading up on the forums to understand the different AE fits on different lasts based on the experience of others. AE shoes also come in different widths so make sure u find out exactly the size AND width from the seller (and clarify US or UK sizing etc).

Your suggestion of ordering from amazon to try size and then return is laborious and comes at a cost, but is about as close to getting to try it at the shoe shop as it gets. You would get hit with GST if the item(s) value > S$400, so it may be better to order 1 pair at a time. With adequate research before u embark on ordering your 'test shoes', you may not even need to order beyond 1 pair to confirm your sizing.

Good luck!

 

[All in a Day]

Based on what I have seen, Saphir's cremes, especially the Medaille d'or versions, fare better with regards to re-saturating the fiber and for recoloring (in my opinion, the most important benefit in using creme polishes). It also seem to have a higher concentration of turpentine and beeswax, which is hugely beneficial for those who do not subscribe to wax polishing.

If you wish for more reddish hues for cremes, you can try mixing equal portions of Mahogany creme into Burgundy. It helps.

Hi, I find that the colour from the Saphir creme tends to stain my pants (which doesn't occur for wax, comparatively). Not sure if any one else encounters. Is that normal?

Would it help if a wax finishing is applied after the creme application process or what could be done to prevent the 'staining'?

TIA for advice.

 

[urbanturban]

Hi, I find that the colour from the Saphir creme tends to stain my pants (which doesn't occur for wax, comparatively). Not sure if any one else encounters. Is that normal?

Would it help if a wax finishing is applied after the creme application process or what could be done to prevent the 'staining'?

TIA for advice.

I never had that happen to me. Not sure if you are applying too much creme or if you are wearing the shoes too shoe before the creme dries up.

Also I either give the shoes a brush over or a wipe-over after allowing time for the creme to penetrate the leather.

 

[lirahs]

Hi, I find that the colour from the Saphir creme tends to stain my pants (which doesn't occur for wax, comparatively). Not sure if any one else encounters. Is that normal?

Would it help if a wax finishing is applied after the creme application process or what could be done to prevent the 'staining'?

TIA for advice.

Similarly, I never encountered this issue apart from what urbanturban has pointed out.

How many layers/coats of cream polish do you typically apply to your shoes? If there are multiple layers being applied, I suggest that you impose a fair amount of interlude (min 15-20 mins perhaps) between each application of layer/coat to ensure the shoes (leather) absorb the cream polish adequately. Then buff off with a horse-hair brush.

On the same note, creases may tend to "crack" the layers/coats of cream polish and thus, stain your garments. But this is relatively flawed if the cream polish have penetrated into the leather during the first instance.

 

[All in a Day]

I never had that happen to me. Not sure if you are applying too much creme or if you are wearing the shoes too shoe before the creme dries up.

Also I either give the shoes a brush over or a wipe-over after allowing time for the creme to penetrate the leather.

Hmm.. Happened to me a few times, of which the later occurrences were definitely at least a week or 2 after creme application.

I have not worn my better pants with the particular pair of shoes as a result. Will give another brushing (w/o applying more creme) and try again to see how it goes. Thanks urban.

 

[theRenaissance]

I never had that happen to me. Not sure if you are applying too much creme or if you are wearing the shoes too shoe before the creme dries up.

Also I either give the shoes a brush over or a wipe-over after allowing time for the creme to penetrate the leather.

Exactly what he says.

With some proper brushing (either via boar or goat brushes) and good amount of of buffing, there should not be any creme residues left on the upper.

 

[likehotbutter]

Hi, I find that the colour from the Saphir creme tends to stain my pants (which doesn't occur for wax, comparatively). Not sure if any one else encounters. Is that normal?

Would it help if a wax finishing is applied after the creme application process or what could be done to prevent the 'staining'?

TIA for advice.

Monks? Only ever had very slight staining due to the straps flexing alot

 

[TUV2008]

$100 to change a pair of rubber sole consider reasonable or expensive or too cheapskate?

 

[All in a Day]

Monks? Only ever had very slight staining due to the straps flexing alot

Oxfords. Need to re-examine the way i have been polishing with creme given that my experience seems to be the exception.

Thanks for all who shared!

 

[All in a Day]

$100 to change a pair of rubber sole consider reasonable or expensive or too cheapskate?

Depends on what's involved? Adding on rubber sole 'topy' style shouldnt cost that much. On the other hand, $100 for GYW resoling from leather sole to dainite from seems like a bargain, assuming it is done well.

 

[TUV2008]

Depends on what's involved? Adding on rubber sole 'topy' style shouldnt cost that much. On the other hand, $100 for GYW resoling from leather sole to dainite from seems like a bargain, assuming it is done well.

actually I don't quite understanding you talking... pardon me of lack of knowledge. anyway I will post the picture this Wednesday when the work is done.

 

[josephkjc]

actually I don't quite understanding you talking... pardon me of lack of knowledge. anyway I will post the picture this Wednesday when the work is done.

Ask the person who is doing the job how is he changing the rubber sole. Your information is too vague.

All in a Day is saying that in his first described method, it is simply gluing a piece of rubber onto existing soles (like how some bros here go to clobbers to glue vibram or topy soles to the soles of their leather soles). $100 for such a job is expensive.

The second more complicated and more expensive way is more of resoling/changing the sole of the shoe. Like all goodyear welted shoes, the sole can be removed and a new sole can be stitched onto the shoes' uppers. the sole can be leather soles of dainite (rubber) soles. If the $100 is for replacing the whole existing sole with dainite soles then it is really cheap.

If it is Diamond Walker, then it will very likely be the first method as their shoes are cemented (glued) soles and not the better GYW (goodyear welted construction).
If you have no idea on the difference of GYW versus cemented shoes, I would advise you do some serious reading online. The quality and durability is miles apart.
Other than GYW, there is also other constructions blake, rapid blake and Norwegian welt etc.

 

[TUV2008]

Kam Sia kam SIA!!! Everyday I learn something new.

I sent my MTO Ed shoe to change new sole, so is Ed shoe GYW?

 

[rocket science]

Kam Sia kam SIA!!! Everyday I learn something new.

I sent my MTO Ed shoe to change new sole, so is Ed shoe GYW?

Yes they are, but I don't remember them charging only $100 for resole. You sent it to a cobbler to do a GYW resole?

 

[All in a Day]

Kam Sia kam SIA!!! Everyday I learn something new.

I sent my MTO Ed shoe to change new sole, so is Ed shoe GYW?

Picture will express a thousand words. I do recall your MTO came with closed channel leather sole?

The more experienced bros would know what 'procedure' was done once you post pics of the shoes and soles when ready.

 

[jonleelk]

Picture will express a thousand words. I do recall your MTO came with closed channel leather sole?

The more experienced bros would know what 'procedure' was done once you post pics of the shoes and soles when ready.

If a few days can collect, then it is not a full sole recraft. That will need to wait 2 weeks and cost $150.

A few pages ago someone posted the full price list of EEA repair works. Rubber sole was $100, and we were arguing is that similar to just a topy. Guess we will know in a few days' time.