WiFi 7 Device SpeedTest and WiFi 7 adapters

[xiaofan]

1. Top 2x2 WiFi 7 device chipsets as of now, with 320MHz channel bandwidth support on the 6GHz band.
1) Qualcomm Fastconnect 7800 (Qualcomm QCNCM865 module) (Fastconnect 7900 chipset not out yet)

2) MediaTek Filogic 380 chipset (MT7927), also known as AMD RZ738

3) Intel BE200/BE201 chipset, cheapest among all three.

2. Lower end 2x2 WiFi 7 device chipset: no 320MHz channel bandwidth support on the 6GHz band
1) MediaTek Filogic 360 chipset (MT7925), also known as AMD RZ717
2) Intel BE202 chipset
3) RealTek RTL8922A/8922AE
https://www.realtek.com/Product/ProductHitsDetail?id=4561&menu_id=532
4) RealTek RTL8912AE USB WiFi 7 chipset

 

[jasonho]

Thanks.

No need to see the SpeedTest result, just the PHY Link speed from your Androd Phone --> you can check the WiFi connection details.

Like this ?

 

[xiaofan]

Like this ?

Yes, I guess this shows it is now using 2.4GHz + 6GHz MLO.

Maybe you will see "2.4GHz + 5GHz + 6GHz" MLO or at least "5GH + 6GHz" MLO when you get top speed.

Reference: MediaTek claims to have up to 7.3Gbps PHY Link Speed with 5-streams (2x2 + 2x2 + 1x1).

https://www.mediatek.com/products/smartphones/mediatek-dimensity-9400
Wi-Fi 7 Tri-band concurrency

Achieve considerably faster connectivity speeds with Wi-Fi 7 that can address all three bands (2.4GHz, 5GHz, 6GHz) simultaneously, unlike competitor flagship smartphone platforms that can only connect to two at once.

• Up to 7.3Gbps Wi-Fi data rate
• Wi-Fi 7 tri-band concurrency with 5-streams (2x2 + 2x2 + 1x1)

 

[Encrypted11]

Thanks for the pointer.

After the following changes, I can get 5764 Mbps PHY speed for the MLO SSID, same as the 6GHz only SSID. I am not able to get anything higher with the MLO SSID.

-MIMO SMPS to off
-Roaming Aggressiveness to medium-low (APs with signal quality >-100dBm will no longer show up)
-Preferred band, 5+6GHz

Speed is not that consistent though --> good ones match the 6GHz band now.

Wireless router --> TP-Link HB710
Wireless client --> Acer Swifti Go 14 early 2024 model with Intel Core 5 125H CPU, 16GB/1TB, Intel BE200 based Killer 1750 WiFi 7 adapter

Very close range at about 0.5m above the router


Test 1


Test 2

Just an explanation on roaming aggressiveness, the driver has a set automatic interval for scanning APs nearby. Obviously the further it scans, the higher the power state needed but these WiFi cards have very low power limits. (catered to mobile pcs)

In WiFi 4/5 era there's a chance the the scans cause massive bandwidth throughput cuts enough to cause connection pauses (even when you're connected to an SSID already) it is still routinely looking for nearby SSIDs.

These newer wireless cards are made on a smaller node, but still scanning for sometimes unconnectable >-100dBm + networks are still very power hungry and hurt throughput.

In the big mobile data era public/cafe WiFi's not as important anymore so roaming at medium-low, as long as it does not cause problems connecting to your network is a fair tradeoff.

 

[jasonho]

Yes, I guess this shows it is now using 2.4GHz + 6GHz MLO.

Maybe you will see "2.4GHz + 5GHz + 6GHz" MLO or at least "5GH + 6GHz" MLO when you get top speed.

Reference: MediaTek claims to have up to 7.3Gbps PHY Link Speed with 5-streams (2x2 + 2x2 + 1x1).

https://www.mediatek.com/products/smartphones/mediatek-dimensity-9400
Wi-Fi 7 Tri-band concurrency

Achieve considerably faster connectivity speeds with Wi-Fi 7 that can address all three bands (2.4GHz, 5GHz, 6GHz) simultaneously, unlike competitor flagship smartphone platforms that can only connect to two at once.

• Up to 7.3Gbps Wi-Fi data rate
• Wi-Fi 7 tri-band concurrency with 5-streams (2x2 + 2x2 + 1x1)

Yeah. I was suspecting if the router didn't support or the current Oppo phone doesn't do that.

It's the standard 2.4+5 or 2.4+6 but I can't never get all 3 or even 5+6 yet.

 

[xiaofan]

Basically with the Windows 11 24H2 update, I can see that Intel BE200 works with MLO (2.4GHz+5GHz, or 5GHz+6GHz). But I cannot see that the PHY speed increase compared to just 5GHz or just 6GHz band.

PHY connection speed of 2.4GHz+5GHz MLO, still 2882Mbps, same as 5GHz alone.
PHY connection speed of 5GHz+6GHz MLO, still 5764Mbps, same as 6GHz alone.

By right, it is possible to achieve greater aggregated connection speed using MLO, if the router and client can work together to get MLO working well.

That being said, 2.4GHz+5GHz MLO will mainly improve reliability (and maybe speed) at far range and not so much or speed at close range.

By right 5GHz+6GHz MLO will increase the speed if MLO is really working well.

 

[xiaofan]

Previosly I have tested the following two MLO situation to come to the conclusion that PHY connection speed does not increase for Intel BE200 WiFi 7 adapter in my test cases.
1) TP-Link HB710 --> 5GHz + 6GHz MLO
2) Asus TUF-BE6500 --> 2.4GHz + 5GHz MLO

Today I tested two more cases.
3) Xiaomi BE5000 --> 2.4GHz + 5GHz MLO

<1m distance Speedtest
https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/d/1ffb23d1-b908-4944-a667-9c8db1255c7f

4) ZTE BE7200 Pro+ --> 2.4GHz + 5GHz MLO

<1m distance SpeedTest

https://www.speedtest.net/result/d/61691337-3ec7-40d3-99b4-66653440c7f2

 

[xiaofan]

I just got my TP-Link Archer BE805 yesterday and here are the test results done yesterday.

Just got my Archer BE805 today (S$300 from an M1 user).

Quick SpeedTest using an Acer Swift Go 14 2024 model (Intel Core Ultra 5 125H CPU, Intel BE200NGW based Killer BE1750 WiFi 7 adapter, Windows 11 24H2), 3m away from the Archer BE805 router.

MLO SSID is still slower than 6GHz band alone, but faster than 5GHz band.

Singtel 5Gbps plan.

Very close range, 6GHz SSID.

 

[xiaofan]

I just got my TP-Link Archer BE805 yesterday and here are the test results done yesterday.

Beating my own record at very close range (50cm). No where near to the best results here, I have not been able to break 4Gbps barrier.

TP-Link Archer BE805 WiFi 7 router, 6GHz band, PHY Speed 5764 Mbps
Acer Swift Go 14 2024 model (Intel Core Ultra 5 125H CPU, Intel BE200 chipset based WiFi 7 adapter).

Fastest download at 3557.64 Mbps.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     3.60 ms   (jitter: 0.16ms, low: 3.44ms, high: 3.86ms)
    Download:  3557.64 Mbps (data used: 5.6 GB)
                 14.59 ms   (jitter: 5.46ms, low: 4.83ms, high: 28.71ms)
      Upload:  3112.69 Mbps (data used: 3.2 GB)
                 10.41 ms   (jitter: 3.67ms, low: 3.58ms, high: 19.67ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/5f442027-8fee-42ec-ac31-0b4d0a42e112

Fastest upload speed at 3572.16 Mbps.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     4.01 ms   (jitter: 0.36ms, low: 3.83ms, high: 4.91ms)
    Download:  3380.51 Mbps (data used: 4.3 GB)
                 17.86 ms   (jitter: 5.49ms, low: 4.25ms, high: 42.98ms)
      Upload:  3572.16 Mbps (data used: 4.6 GB)
                  8.92 ms   (jitter: 3.41ms, low: 3.41ms, high: 15.63ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/2ed56745-8818-4c67-9550-30c27238456a

 

[xiaofan]

Another record by jasonho, Archer BE805 + Oppo Find X8 Pro.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...-deco-wifi-6e-7-mesh-solution.6953682/page-12

@xiaofan
Not again?

 

[xiaofan]

Another good result using TP-Link Archer BE805 and Xiaomi 14T Pro (Mediatek Dimensity 9300+).
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...ps-3gbps-xgs-pon-based-plans.6930337/page-255

I just upgraded to M1 6Gbps plan. I got the TP-Link Archer BE805 router.

This is the fastest Wifi7 speed tested on my Xiaomi 14T Pro. 2m from the router.

After some initial testing, the TP-Link Archer BE805 router is faster in top speed but in terms of coverage, my old Xiaomi AX3600 is still better.

 

[cybertech]

@xiaofan can check with you currently my motherboard using the AX210NGW WiFi 6E and if I replaced with the Intel BE200 WiFi 7 M.2 card, will I able to get up to 5Gbps speed connecting to the TP-Link Archer BE805 (ISP M1 6Gbps plan)

 

[xiaofan]

@xiaofan can check with you currently my motherboard using the AX210NGW WiFi 6E and if I replaced with the Intel BE200 WiFi 7 M.2 card, will I able to get up to 5Gbps speed connecting to the TP-Link Archer BE805 (ISP M1 6Gbps plan)

I do not think so. My best WiFi 7 speed achieved with Intel BE200 based WiFi 7 adapter is at 3.56Gbps at very close range (50cm) from the laptop (Acer Swift Go 14 2024 model with Intel Core Ultra 125H CPU, Intel Killer WiFi 7 BE1750 adapter based on Intel BE200 chipset) to the Archer BE805 router. Please refer to Post #189 in this page.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     3.60 ms   (jitter: 0.16ms, low: 3.44ms, high: 3.86ms)
    Download:  3557.64 Mbps (data used: 5.6 GB)
                 14.59 ms   (jitter: 5.46ms, low: 4.83ms, high: 28.71ms)
      Upload:  3112.69 Mbps (data used: 3.2 GB)
                 10.41 ms   (jitter: 3.67ms, low: 3.58ms, high: 19.67ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/5f442027-8fee-42ec-ac31-0b4d0a42e112

3m test results may be more meaningful, as shown in Post #188 in this page, up to 2.77Gbps.

 

[cybertech]

Thanks I shall stick to the current Intel AX210NGW WiFi 6E

 

[Zylver]

I do not think so. My best WiFi 7 speed achieved with Intel BE200 based WiFi 7 adapter is at 3.56Gbps at very close range (50cm) from the laptop (Acer Swift Go 14 2024 model with Intel Core Ultra 125H CPU, Intel Killer WiFi 7 BE1750 adapter based on Intel BE200 chipset) to the Archer BE805 router. Please refer to Post #189 in this page.

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     3.60 ms   (jitter: 0.16ms, low: 3.44ms, high: 3.86ms)
    Download:  3557.64 Mbps (data used: 5.6 GB)
                 14.59 ms   (jitter: 5.46ms, low: 4.83ms, high: 28.71ms)
      Upload:  3112.69 Mbps (data used: 3.2 GB)
                 10.41 ms   (jitter: 3.67ms, low: 3.58ms, high: 19.67ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/5f442027-8fee-42ec-ac31-0b4d0a42e112

3m test results may be more meaningful, as shown in Post #188 in this page, up to 2.77Gbps.

Hi Xiaofan, able to share your advanced settings under the device manager? Just got a Wavlink BE200 PCIE card, trying to optimise the parameters if possible. Thanks in advance!

 

[xiaofan]

Hi Xiaofan, able to share your advanced settings under the device manager? Just got a Wavlink BE200 PCIE card, trying to optimise the parameters if possible. Thanks in advance!

Just default. Nothing special.

Some users suggest to change the power related settings.
https://community.intel.com/t5/Wire...assive-slowdown-on-battery-power/td-p/1622098
https://www.intel.com/content/www/u.../wireless/legacy-intel-wireless-products.html

 

[xanthene]

Hi all, may i seek some help, i am using EB810V and Qualcomm QCNCM865 (with a PCIe Adapter) and updated to Windows11 24H2, my link speed is 5700+ Mpbs and connect to MLO 6Ghz and 5Ghz, but even when very near, my speed test on desktop is only 1.7Gpbs max, any idea what could be the issue

 

[xiaofan]

Hi all, may i seek some help, i am using EB810V and Qualcomm QCNCM865 (with a PCIe Adapter) and updated to Windows11 24H2, my link speed is 5700+ Mpbs and connect to MLO 6Ghz and 5Ghz, but even when very near, my speed test on desktop is only 1.7Gpbs max, any idea what could be the issue

No issues, as per the test results here, MLO speed is usually lower than 6GHz band speed, you should try just 6GHz band to see if that gives you better speed.

 

[xiaofan]

I was puzzled by MediaTek Dimensity 9400's "7.3Gbps WiFi date rate".

Now I tend to belive it is like the following: 5764 + 1441 + 344 = 7549 Mbps (?)
1) 1 x 1 BE 40MHz channel bandwith, 4096 QAM, 344 Mbps
2) 1 x 1 BE 160MHz channel bandwith, 4096 QAM, 1441 Mps (?)
3) 2 x 2 BE 320MHz channel bandwith, 4096 QAM, 5764 Mbps

Or 5764 + 1201 + 344 = 7309 Mbps, maybe this is more correct.
1) 1 x 1 BE 40MHz channel bandwith, 4096 QAM, 344 Mbps
2) 1 x 1 BE 160MHz channel bandwith, 1024 QAM, 1201 Mps
3) 2 x 2 BE 320MHz channel bandwith, 4096 QAM, 5764 Mbps

@jasonho
FYI as well. Please help to check the connection speed of 5GHz band to see if it is 1201 Mbps or 1441 Mbps for your Oppo Find X8 Pro phone. Thanks.

Reference: MediaTek Dimensity 9400
https://www.mediatek.com/products/smartphones/mediatek-dimensity-9400
Wi-Fi 7 Tri-band concurrency

Achieve considerably faster connectivity speeds with Wi-Fi 7 that can address all three bands (2.4GHz, 5GHz, 6GHz) simultaneously, unlike competitor flagship smartphone platforms that can only connect to two at once.

• Up to 7.3Gbps Wi-Fi data rate
• Wi-Fi 7 tri-band concurrency with 5-streams (2x2 + 2x2 + 1x1)

 

[xiaofan]

@jasonho

Just wondering if you disable 2.4GHz in the Archer BE805 MLO settings and force 5GHz+6GHz MLO to see if you can get better speed than 2.4GHz+6GHz MLO for your Oppo Find X8 Pro. Thanks.