Singtel 10Gbps ZTE F8648P superadmin password.

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Yes, this is in line with my testing results with ZTE F8648P ONR.

But the question is different -- what about those unbridged ports?

For ZTE F8648P ONR, the unbridged ports will not work for internet access (but work for Singtel TV Box). What about Nokia XS-240X-A ONR?
For 8648 my findings are the same as you.
But for the new Nokia, the Unbridged port also had internet access (Disclaimer: I did not test all the ports. I just left it at the port the engineer plugged in. my mesh is slow, only wifi 6 I was bridging the 1gbps port)
 

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For 8648 my findings are the same as you.
But for the new Nokia, the Unbridged port also had internet access (Disclaimer: I did not test all the ports. I just left it at the port the engineer plugged in. my mesh is slow, only wifi 6 I was bridging the 1gbps port)

Thanks. This should be correct as mentioned by another Nokia XS-240X-A ONR user previously.
 

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any tutorial for this?
I used the instructions Jaster7 / xiaofan has posted above.
For setting the LAN port as bridge, I also login to superadmin using "support" as username, and the password is the reverse of what was printed on the label at the bottom of the ONR.
Selected "Create a new Connection" in the Network->WAN page, Connection mode set as "Bridge mode", "Enable/Disable" is ticked.
I also set the VLAN according to what was shown for the original WAN connection, which is in my case: "Enable VLAN" is ticked and the "IP mode" set to "Add svlan", with "VLAN ID" as 10, didn't change the "VLAN PRI" which is default 0. And just tick the LAN port to bind, which in my case is LAN 1, only. My OPNsense router did not need to set any VLAN on the WAN side, just normal DHCP client on WAN side.
to add on, singtel old tv box (not the new android box) was still working on Nokia after bridging.
 

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I used the instructions Jaster7 / xiaofan has posted above.

to add on, singtel old tv box (not the new android box) was still working on Nokia after bridging.

I tend to believe the new Android TV box will also work when connected to the unbridged ONR port as it is supposed to work in the same way as existing SingTel TV set-top box (same VLAN settings).

Hopefully there will be a confirmation about this.
 

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For 8648 my findings are the same as you.
But for the new Nokia, the Unbridged port also had internet access (Disclaimer: I did not test all the ports. I just left it at the port the engineer plugged in. my mesh is slow, only wifi 6 I was bridging the 1gbps port)
great! how do I request to change to the nokia onr?
 

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Another interesting news, let's see how it goes.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...-gbps-enhanced.7030365/page-27#post-155357969
Oh, another surprising piece of news. When I told ST I wanted to have bridge mode for my new 10G ONR, since my current ONR is also on bridge mode, the sales told me "Please be inform that Bridge Mode is now a chargeable VAS service at $10/mth (incl. GST)".

This means they are open to officially supporting bridge mode, but at an additional charge. This could also mean that in future they will start clamping down on users configuring bridge mode on their own?
 

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there was a post above by jaster7, login to super admin, then configure the bridge on the 10gb port.
I recently got the 3gbps plan. Was issued with Nokia XS-204X-A ONR and installed 2 days ago.

Followed the guide found in the forum to set to bridge for LAN1 (10G) port and connected my OPNsense router. So far, very stable, didn't notice any issues. My OPNsense router only has 2.5G, and speedtest showing about 2.1Gbps speed, which is normal.

For setting the LAN port as bridge, I also login to superadmin using "support" as username, and the password is the reverse of what was printed on the label at the bottom of the ONR.
Selected "Create a new Connection" in the Network->WAN page, Connection mode set as "Bridge mode", "Enable/Disable" is ticked.
I also set the VLAN according to what was shown for the original WAN connection, which is in my case: "Enable VLAN" is ticked and the "IP mode" set to "Add svlan", with "VLAN ID" as 10, didn't change the "VLAN PRI" which is default 0. And just tick the LAN port to bind, which in my case is LAN 1, only. My OPNsense router did not need to set any VLAN on the WAN side, just normal DHCP client on WAN side.

YMMV, I do not have any other services connected to the ONR, such as TV box or phone line. Not sure if this settings will affect those or not.
Bridge at your own risk.
Just wanted to update the forum, since I am very grateful to achieve this bridging setup with Singtel's ONR due to reading these forums.

Follow this set of instructions. Essentially if you have done it before previously the method is pretty much the same.
 

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For Nokia XS-240X-A ONR, as per the report by jasper7 , the way to bridge is to create another WAN connection. And then bind it to the 10G LAN port. Then you can connect your own router to the bridge port.

The unbridged ports are still working for Internet access as per the reports for Nokia XS-240X-A ONR, so you do not want to touch the existing WAN connection and DHCP settings of the ONR.

And take note you may still want to access the ONR just in case anything changes from SingTel side. Technically SingTel may push some profiles and make your bridging not working, but so far that does not happen.

Basically now you have two independent networks and two different public IPv4 address, one with your own router, one with the ONR (with the remaining unbridged ports).

For ZTE F8648P ONR, after bridging, the unbridged LAN ports no longer work for Internet access based on my testing results (same for others). But again, I will still need to access the ONR settings occasionally, so again I will not disable the DHCP settings of the ZTE ONR. And in reality the ZTE ONR itself still has a public IPv4 address and has Internet access. Just the unbridged ONR LAN ports do not work for Internet access when you connect a device to an unbridged port. Strange but that is what is happening now.

Reference: Singtel issued Nokia XS-240X-A ONR Bridging Method by jasper7.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...te-f8648p-superadmin-password.6946718/page-14
 

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For those who are using ZTE F8648P ONR, here is the bridging method I posted earlier in this thread. Proceed at your own risk. YMMV.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...admin-password.6946718/page-11#post-154220874

After the bridging, Singtel Digital voice will still work; Singtel TV box will still work on the unbridged port; The unbridged LAN ports will not be able to use for Internet access though.

1. Did you log in the super-admin account?

User name --> support
Password --> reverse of the root password printed on the ONR.

Hardware Version V2.1
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2. ONR bridging method

Bridging method has not been changed from the very beginning.

Log in the super-admin account:
User name --> support​
Password --> reverse of the root password printed on the ONR.​

Once you log in, click "FastSetting" on the top right to access the briging page.

Set your router in router mode and connect to LAN5 (10G LAN port) and make sure you have internet access in this case (Double NAT).

Click the checkbox LAN5 to bridge the 10G LAN port.

If you lose internet access immediately, bridging failed. Reboot your router to see if it helps. If not, bridging confirm failed. Uncheck the "LAN5" checkbox to recover.

If you still get internet access, most likely your bridging is working. Double check your router WAN side gets public IPv4 address and not private IPv4 address (192.168.1.x). You may need to reboot the router to get the public IPv4 address. If that is the case, congratualtions, bridging is successful.

If bridging is successful, then you cannot access ONR's GUI 192.168.1.254 any more from your own router connect to the bridged LAN port. But you can connect your computer to the unbridged ONR LAN port to access the ONR Web UI at 192.168.1.254. The ONR itself actually still has internet access but somehow your computer cannot access the internet when connected to the unbridged LAN port.


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3. ONR Bridging behaviour

1) Initially it was very easy to bridge, and the unbridged ports will still have Internet Access

2) Then with new FW, bridging became not working in August 2024, you would lose internet imediately.
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Software Version V2.1.10P5N19​
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3) Then it became possible again for some users, the unbridged ports will not have internet access. Some users still can not bridge the ONR. No idea why the differences, even with the same ONR HW/FW revision.
 

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The best method is of course to convince SingTel to officially bridge the XGS-PON ONR (ZTE F8648P or Nokia XS-240X-A) without a fee. There are two successful reports as of now.

Then there may be some users who are willing to pay S$10 per month fee to bridge the ONR as well.

I am paying S$49.90 per month for the Singtel 5Gbps plan (no good recontract offer for 5Gbps back in August 2024) and for sure I am not willing to pay. :ROFLMAO:

Oh, another surprising piece of news. When I told ST I wanted to have bridge mode for my new 10G ONR, since my current ONR is also on bridge mode, the sales told me "Please be inform that Bridge Mode is now a chargeable VAS service at $10/mth (incl. GST)".

This means they are open to officially supporting bridge mode, but at an additional charge. This could also mean that in future they will start clamping down on users configuring bridge mode on their own?
Actually hor, $10 plus $29.90 (for 5Gbps) is $39.90.

About same as what I was paying for under 1Gbps ONT plan.

I'm tempted. :unsure:

Think they found out we can bridge the Nokia and ZTE ONR provided by them.
 
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Another interesting story of bridging the Nokia XS-240X-A officially by Singtel (without paying SingTel S$10 per month VAS).

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...-gbps-enhanced.7030365/page-30#post-155514124
For my 5gbps recontract with Singtel at the $29.90 offer, I also asked for Free Bridge Mode without VAS $10. Their management reluctantly agreed to waive off VAS charges for 24 months instead of the typical full waiver forever.

One can tell they are not willing to give it out as easily anymore approval will only get much stricter. They also asked me why do I need it, use cases before approving my request. Below is the interesting part. Installation day...

Come installation day, The Singtel guy came (Given Nokia 240 ONR), he set up everything within 10-15mins told me "Bridge Mode" was done. After he left and I checked the ONR webUI under LAN page all ports were set to Bridge Mode. That's about it. Not a single Bridge Mode for WAN page which is the true setting to tweak based on what the other thread recommended. I have also not seen any "Bridge Mode" VAS Charges in my add-ons page so I'm not sure how that works they gonna just remotely disable or mess with my ONR settings after 24months? Who knows.

If someone pays $10/month VAS for this service, Good luck seems like even Singtel guy also don't know how to set up for you, but if you know a thing or two about Bridge Mode you shouldn't need to request for it just look up threads and do it yourself. I requested because I wanted some assurance in case my ONR gets bricked or something, Also because to try my luck. Looking from the other end, Had I not requested for it they may have given me another ONR which Nokia 240 is better suited for Bridge Mode and all LAN still works with Internet) So I still take that as a Win. The Singtel guy knows about the support and reverse of pw, He did tell me that so maybe you pay $10/month to access the login info haha
 

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Could you if possible advise as well as I'm unsure, if we do bridge the ONR and maybe say we connect it to a UDM Pro/OPNSense machine, would singtel tv work with any of the ports on the UDM or are we still required to plug in directly to the ONR
SingTel TV will only work on the ONR unbridged ports.
 

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Another successful story for Nokia XS-240X-A ONR manual bridging.

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...-gbps-enhanced.7030365/page-31#post-155543127
Just an update after messing around with the Nokia XS-240X-A for a new flat in Punggol.

After logging in via the support page, I thought I had to go through the process of selecting the bridged port in the Network. When the TP-Link HB810 failed to get an IP address, I noticed that modifying the WAN port allowed you to select a "Bridge Mode" instead of "Routing Mode". That allowed me to select Port 1, which was the 10Gbps port. I ticked the VLAN option (set to VLAN 10) and just like that, the HB810 got a WAN address.

(Additional note: All the ports must be in "Routing Mode" before attempting the WAN modification. If one of the ports is already bridged when trying to modify the WAN port, it will show up as greyed out.)

On the HB810, I did have to indicate that it did not have to select VLAN 10 on the WAN port. Once I did that, the WAN instantly connected.

One observation is that while it did issue the router an IPV6 address, it was a /64 address instead of /56. I did some of those online test to check if IPV6 was working, and unfortunately, it reported that it wasn't seeing IPV6 connectivity.

Unfortunately, I forgot to take screenshots. I'll try to do it the next time I'm at the new place.
 

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Hi Xiaofan-sensei

So, if my understanding is correct, bridging an ONR port will allow me to continue using my router? Because my existing setup is ONT > Router. In your case, just connect the router WAN port to LAN5 port?

Interestingly today I tried to bridge Singtel ZTE F8648P ONR Port 5 only and it works fine, as you mentioned, only port is 5 working, other LAN ports got no internet at all (even though Singtel ONR still got a vliad public IPv4 address). So this is kind of different from last time.

BTW, I have cancelled my Singtel TV service as it is really not used much in the past three years.

I am using Asus TUF-BE6500 (quad 2.5G ports) for now as the main router -- so only using the 5Gbps service as 2.5Gbps plan. But yes the TUF-BE6500 gets a public IPv4 address. IPv6 also works (native IPv6 using DHCPv6).

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Hi Xiaofan-sensei

So, if my understanding is correct, bridging an ONR port will allow me to continue using my router? Because my existing setup is ONT > Router. In your case, just connect the router WAN port to LAN5 port?

Yes. Make sure you remove the SingTel VLAN profile since the VLAN profile is only for SingTel ONT users. If not you will not have internet access.
 

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I had my 5Gbps installed in Sep-24 (IT Show sign up) and had not have any success bridging, despite having the same SW and Boot as Xiaofan.

I could see IP issued, but can't access internet.

Today I found some steps that I did when I tried to bridge ONR then... Which includes port binding, port control and manually changing the DHCP server of the ONR. I undone those and WALA.

Pita for acting smart. :cool:

I am now #bridged, router side showing 115.xx.xx.xxx
 

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I have since managed to get singtel to bridge for me FOC for 24 months as some users have reported, the tech tried multiple times to bridge the ZTE one and bricked 2 ONR's before coming back the next day with the Nokia version and successfully bridged it for me :)
 
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