Latest from Kf Seetoh| The socially conscious Timbre Group that manages Yishun Park Hawker Cte ... ...

[Tayliatorhard]

If they milking the hawkers so much, how long do you expect the hawkers to survive ?
They are also human who needed rest.

I think you didn't get the irony of 4am.

It's good now someone is out to expose them, let's see how "social" these enterprises goes.

Should also mandate them to release salary information of their management.

 

[noinimod]

For those who want to read our "guiding principal" for hawkers

https://www.mse.gov.sg/latest-news/...inability-and-the-environment-dr-koh-poh-koon

Has these been met ?

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106 First, SEHC operators possess industry knowledge and experience. They can leverage their expertise in F&B and stall management to ensure the vibrancy of new centres. Indeed, many have done so by developing a variety of localised programmes, including initiatives tailored to the community to drive visitorship, and incubation programmes to provide business advice and support to aspiring hawkers.

107 Second, SEHC operators can leverage their F&B networks to curate food mix and support stallholders to fine-tune their menu, such as through food tastings. This supports both hawkers and consumers – allowing the hawker centres to feature food that meet patrons’ expectations, which in turn supports hawkers’ businesses.

108 Third, SEHC operators can introduce new and innovative practices, to support stallholders in navigating changing operating contexts and industry developments, such as onboarding onto digital and online ordering platforms. This helps our hawker centres evolve and keep up with trends.

109 Good curation and visitorship are important ingredients for a vibrant hawker centre. These allow hawkers to thrive and earn a fair livelihood. In turn, when hawkers find it viable to operate stalls for longer hours, a centre can better meet the dining needs of the residents and community. These are the objectives that had to be met – and we believe can be met – by the SEHC management model.

The irony in what Koh Poh Koon said: " In pricing their food, many hawkers struggle between keeping food affordable for their loyal customers while having to raise prices to cover the increases in ingredient and manpower costs. This is a struggle that many of us in the House can empathise with."

"Absorbing price increases of ingredients would effectively mean a pay cut for a hawker, on top of the already slim profit margins. I am sure many Singaporeans can empathise with this, even as price increases are not always easy to accept for anyone."

So Koh Poh Koon acknowledges the low profit margins that hawkers are struggling with, and yet under his/the govt's 'watchful' eye of SEHC, they still allow SEHC to take 15% of total sales?

Lol

 

[psyger-zero]

Timbre 15% is really opportunistic, as they only creamed off the successful one. i.e the 15% is probably more than the rental. And those not doing well, they will pay the basic rental, why, because if they take 15%, it going to be less than the rental. Really win win for the operators.
SEHC operator with no social responsibility.

By right they should only be allowed to charge either fixed rent or share of profits,not both. Like that whether the stall doing well or not they also win. So if stall losing money how? Can they collect negative profit,ie help the stall cover some losses? So what's govt paying them for if they are already profiting so much? Raiding our reserves?

 

[buttbERry]

wa lai liao

next HC tio

 

[gn2807]

Was wondering years ago on why govt keep encouraging sinkies to become hawkers, now I know why....

 

[Nuclear Boy]

Was wondering years ago on why govt keep encouraging sinkies to become hawkers, now I know why....

With every gold rush, it is always most profitable to be the one selling the tools. All other liabilities will be borned by the individual miners.

Just take a look at all the fads, "skills upgrading" through the years. End of day, it's simply good business for them.

 

[fortunehunter]

Mr seetoh can you also raise the issue of hawker subletting that lead to increase of food price in hawker center.

 

[JustForFun]

I started to believe those SEHC are greedy mercaneries out to "suck" hawkers blood and $$ and indirectly also "suck" every customers' $$ but disguise under the name of "social enterprise" (fakey and hypocrites) ?

What operators evil and demons grown in disguised promoted by PAP Gov ? Is it Amy the culprit ?

Really immoral and warp greed ?

Singapore is really going wrong way with deep rooted evilness and demonish promoted by PAP ?

 

[standarture]

Timbre damn jialat also la. I went their one north food court always infested with flies. Really a lot of flies. Damn large and persistent. Need to keep swat them on top your food. Tables all damn sticky. Machiam somewhere a lot of rubbish left there.

 

[Shion]

kf seetoh 1
timbre 0

any word from oyk ?

 

[JustForFun]

kf seetoh 1
timbre 0

any word from oyk ?

Wonder whole of PAP Gov accepted and promoted such ?

 

[dxdx999]

kf seetoh 1
timbre 0

any word from oyk ?

This one not his grc, so he diam diam

Need sham to talk

 

[Lifeinmotion]

Yaoxiukia demand MP Edward Chia to come clean. Although he had step down now and wear white doesn't mean he knows nothing previously. Yaoxiukia demand PAP to assemble a monitor team to monitor the integrity of their MPs and if need be ask the party whip to whip him. Yaoxiukia is very disappointed with this and with the constant witch hunting by KF seetoh, yaoxiukia finds PAP is rotten with PoohBor kia instead.

He step down quite long ago. Unless you can proof he has any business relationship anymore

 

[psyger-zero]

I started to believe those SEHC are greedy mercaneries out to "suck" hawkers blood and $$ and indirectly also "suck" every customers' $$ but disguise under the name of "social enterprise" (fakey and hypocrites) ?

What operators evil and demons grown in disguised promoted by PAP Gov ? Is it Amy the culprit ?

Really immoral and warp greed ?

Singapore is really going wrong way with deep rooted evilness and demonish promoted by PAP ?

All the institute of public character vwo all fake. What social what charity,all is do for own self!! Worse is use fake label to fool honest people!!

kf seetoh 1
timbre 0

any word from oyk ?

That jlb ministar

 

[articland05]

Seetoh stop short of pointing out the link betw these social enterprise and PAP. he better not do that otherwise might backfire...cannot 壁虎跳墙

 

[TrueB1ue]

Anyone got check fei siong who is the one managing bt batok hawker centre?

Is it same pattern?

 

[fandango]

Which MP used to be director of Timbre Group? Which one? Faster come and say!

 

[jq1986]

Nop.

How does Timbre support when they ask hawker to pay for the 10% app discount.

Why should they pocket the difference between base rental vs 15%? Where in writing are there to attract footfall ?
So how do we quantify or qualify this? So if they don't attract X numbers to this hawker. - should they be penalized. And rental rebated?

Is it in Timbre's contract to attract footfall?

Timbre doesn't need to support the discount for the app because hawkers knew when they bidded for stall and would have upped their prices accordingly.

It's exactly because they take 15% of stalls earnings, as opposed to making rent 15% higher as an example, that they have SKIN IN THE GAME and hence there's no need to quantity or qualify or have it in the contract how they are attracting footfall to the location because its IN THEIR INTEREST to do so.

Comprende?

 

[psyger-zero]

Seetoh stop short of pointing out the link betw these social enterprise and PAP. he better not do that otherwise might backfire...cannot 壁虎跳墙

U mean Pogba till teh kor drop?

 

[fandango]

15% is not creaming of profits what, it's so that Timbre has a stake in the success or failure of the stall - which is exactly what a lot of hawker activists are asking for by the way. It forces Timbre to upkeep the place well, advertise or create activities to ensure footfall etc.

Would you rather they increase the rental by a fixed 15%?

Also, the 15 pages of fines, is basically just to clearly spell out what the transgressions are? Would you rather have a detailed black and white, or something ambiguous that comes back to pwn you later? And the transgressions listed are all quite reasonable?

Get your position straight before JJWW. Only makes the movement look like a fool.

Honestly, the Yishun Park Hawker Centre is really jialat. No crowds. The stall holders burning money.