Air Flow in PC CPU

[DeenzX]

If possible, try to post pictures of your rig's ventilation here! Share with everybody

 

[rainbatt]

bookmarked........

 

[Gixxerfied]

My setup is,

Corsair 350D

- 2 x Scythe GT AP-15 Intake from Front
- 1 x Noctua(Forgot what model) intake from back to cool my H60 rad
- 2 x Corsair AF12 on the top as exhaust

All 120mm fans..

 

[DeenzX]

 

[ramdick]

Looks like a Chinese altar

 

[voiceoflove]

Looks like a Chinese altar

haha nice description

 

[DeenzX]

any updates on anybody's new air flow in their systems?

 

[xtreme84]

Well, the fan mounts on my HAF 912 Advanced are quite similar to your Phantom 410. In my case, all the fans are intake except for the rear exhaust. However, I left the top rear fan mount empty because I felt that it was to close to the rear fan and also the top front fan.

If I used it as an intake, it will likely be taking in the hot air output by the rear fan. If I used it as exhaust, the top front fan will be taking in the hot air output by it.

Additionally, I'm using a CM Hyper 212 with push-pull as my heat sink. I wanted the top front fan to intake cool air, go through my heatsink and get pushed out by my rear exhaust. Placing a fan in the top rear mount in any direction would disrupt this flow.

As for filters, I'm using the DEMCiflex ones specifically for the HAF 912 Advanced. They've been effective so far and can filter out dust without reducing airflow by too much.

 

[hoven00]

I have the 410 as well. Switched from 2 intakes (120mm cougar fans) and 2 exhaust (stock) to 1 intake and 1 exhaust.
Personally prefer having less dust build up and a quieter system, worth the ~1C higher temp if you ask me.

 

[DeenzX]

Well, the fan mounts on my HAF 912 Advanced are quite similar to your Phantom 410. In my case, all the fans are intake except for the rear exhaust. However, I left the top rear fan mount empty because I felt that it was to close to the rear fan and also the top front fan.

If I used it as an intake, it will likely be taking in the hot air output by the rear fan. If I used it as exhaust, the top front fan will be taking in the hot air output by it.

Additionally, I'm using a CM Hyper 212 with push-pull as my heat sink. I wanted the top front fan to intake cool air, go through my heatsink and get pushed out by my rear exhaust. Placing a fan in the top rear mount in any direction would disrupt this flow.

As for filters, I'm using the DEMCiflex ones specifically for the HAF 912 Advanced. They've been effective so far and can filter out dust without reducing airflow by too much.

Where did you buy those filters? Are they expensive?

 

[DeenzX]

Recently, I just built a M-ITX system with relatively cheap parts. I'm using the Jonsbo V3+ casing as shown below:

Boy does this thing gets hot! It is adorably tiny, though, so like a child, it can be very noisy. Look at your screen, yes the case is probably tinier than your monitor.
The thing is this case doesn't have enough holes to install bigger cooler fans. No, not even the 92MM, or 80MM... or 60MM.. or 50MM..
The only place you can install FORTY MILLIMETERS fans are at the back, 4 of them.. So yes, you either choose an output only, or input only.. This is where things start to get tricky. Below shows the back of the case:

Yes, 4 of them in one single line.

Of course, knowing that airflow is extremely restricted, I used a branded CPU cooler instead of the stock one. The Xigmatek Praeton LD964.

Not too big, not pathetically small. Still, using a FM2 socket AMD M-ITX motherboard, things get pretty heated up. This forced me to flip my power supply fan so that the fan blows instead of sucks, fan it inwards towards the CPU hoping to give it some direct fresh air from the outside.

Being made of aluminium, (as you've learned in your science class that metals are good conductor of heat), the casing itself is like a heat-dissipation container. Surely, you will still feel bad when you touch your computer only to find it acting like a heater, but nothing much to worry about.

My Advice to those getting Jonsbo V3+

If you die die wanna get that case, prepare a 4-pin Molex to 4x 3-pin splitter and 4x rare 40MM cooling fans. Because trust me, this thing needs some airflow.

 

[xtreme84]

Where did you buy those filters? Are they expensive?

I bought them from here.

Can't remember how much I paid for them though.

 

[DeenzX]

It is hard for small cases to have push-pull system since it is so small with limited places to install fans.

 

[devilwahaha]

Not too big, not pathetically small. Still, using a FM2 socket AMD M-ITX motherboard, things get pretty heated up. This forced me to flip my power supply fan so that the fan blows instead of sucks, fan it inwards towards the CPU hoping to give it some direct fresh air from the outside.

IMO, this case is actually the failed product of trying too hard to be too small while still being able to accommodate a two-slot GPU. It manages this in a ~10L volume size which is pretty decent for the volume-to-performance ratio, but if you consider something like the Ncase M1 which can also fit in a very long power-hungry dual-slot card and still have space for 2x120mm fans on the side panel and 1x92mm fan at the rear in a respectable ~12.5L volume, it really shows how badly designed this case is.

 

[DeenzX]

IMO, this case is actually the failed product of trying too hard to be too small while still being able to accommodate a two-slot GPU. It manages this in a ~10L volume size which is pretty decent for the volume-to-performance ratio, but if you consider something like the Ncase M1 which can also fit in a very long power-hungry dual-slot card and still have space for 2x120mm fans on the side panel and 1x92mm fan at the rear in a respectable ~12.5L volume, it really shows how badly designed this case is.

The reason why the Ncase M1 can fit those fans are because the case is much longer than the V3+ no? The V3+ is like a cube, therefore the extremely tight arrangement. Yes, in fact now after getting the 40MM fans for my V3+, I kinda regretted getting it as the 40MMs are extremely noisy. End up I just used zip-ties to secure a 120MM on the side panel for much, much better air-flow.
There are so many improvements that can be made to this case, like raising the height by just 3CM can allow space for a 120/140MM top fan, and increasing the length by 3CM to allow space for a 120/140MM front fan. And I think just these 2 places are enough for sufficient cooling.
Anyway, the Ncase M1 is probably not out in Singapore yet, and the best M-ITX case title, I would say goes to Bitfenix Prodigy.

 

[devilwahaha]

The reason why the Ncase M1 can fit those fans are because the case is much longer than the V3+ no? The V3+ is like a cube, therefore the extremely tight arrangement. Yes, in fact now after getting the 40MM fans for my V3+, I kinda regretted getting it as the 40MMs are extremely noisy. End up I just used zip-ties to secure a 120MM on the side panel for much, much better air-flow.
There are so many improvements that can be made to this case, like raising the height by just 3CM can allow space for a 120/140MM top fan, and increasing the length by 3CM to allow space for a 120/140MM front fan. And I think just these 2 places are enough for sufficient cooling.
Anyway, the Ncase M1 is probably not out in Singapore yet, and the best M-ITX case title, I would say goes to Bitfenix Prodigy.

Ah yes forgot to mention the cube part. Yes in fact that's my point exactly, Jonsbo tried too hard on making the case as small as possible without considering the practicality of it (40mm's are crazy, I personally wont even go for anything below 120mm). There's really a limit as to how small you can go while stuffing some regular parts in there before temps start to go crazy.

And as you highlighted, thats how I feel about many of Jonsbo's cases too. Many of their cases have really weird dimensions that looks nice on the outside but internals are really a mess. I was gonna suggest mounting 120mm fan on the side panel but I thought it was not possible given the PSU mounting.

About the Ncase M1, yes and no. Its literally about the length of 2x120mm, which given the intended use of the case (gaming) is a very sane thing to do, while still keeping it extremely compact. Look what happened with the V3+ when they tried to make it as short as possible

And no, I dont think it will ever be available in SG, only way is to order direct from them. Apparently one person from SG has placed an order
Prodigy I would say is a not bad case for beginners considering price and availability, but at 36.2L of volume its really ridiculous to call it a SFF case. In comparison my Lian Li PC-A05 can fit an ATX board and is only about 40L of volume.

Bonus pic :

Its only 24mm taller than my Swan H4's!

 

[DeenzX]

Yes, it does looks simple and nice. But what if I wanted something short, like a cube?

In this case, I will have to put away design and consider the Cooler Master Elite 110.
-Its essentially a cube
-There is room for 1x140MM & 2x80MM cooling fans.

 

[DeenzX]

Cooler Master Elite 110


I have done some observations on this Cooler Master M-ITX case, and I realize for a size that is just a little bigger than the Jonsbo V3+, I can get much better cooling out of this cube.
The CoolerMaster Elite 110

Air Flow Directions

Top View

 

[DeenzX]

hope to see more interest here please!

 

[MevolutionX]

Carbide Air 540
3 intake at the front,
2 exhaust at the top,
1 fan set to push for h60 rad.

Simple... positive airflow.