2018 Google Pixel 3 and 3XL...😗🎉😵

[athenodorus]

I personally don't find anything gets killed aggressively enough to be a noticeable problem. I primarily just surf web, social media, camera, music... hardly any games. Maybe this isn't too heavy a usage.

Yup your examples are quite lightweight apps. I doubt apps like games will be able to keep long with such limited ram. Some ppl may say just relaunch only, but I prefer it not to keep being killed off (eg progress may not be saved if it’s killed) just after I browse some web and YouTube videos.

It should be no big deal for non gamers nonetheless.

 

[kryptonit3]

some valid points stated over the hardware.

 

[Mecisteus]

Yup your examples are quite lightweight apps. I doubt apps like games will be able to keep long with such limited ram. Some ppl may say just relaunch only, but I prefer it not to keep being killed off (eg progress may not be saved if it’s killed) just after I browse some web and YouTube videos.

It should be no big deal for non gamers nonetheless.

Your scenario is not very practical.

Only a small minority group of people will do game + YouTube + browsing at the same time.

Even if I am gaming on my phone, I will use the laptop or another device to search for game hints.

Packing the phone with an ever increasing RAM is not a good direction.

Heck even an iPhone XS Max is packed with 4 GB RAM only.

I think Google is trying to balance or optimize the memory usage in Android to catch up with iOS.

 

[bryant_16]

some valid points stated over the hardware.

Omg.. and it just keeps coming..

 

[athenodorus]

Your scenario is not very practical.

Only a small minority group of people will do game + YouTube + browsing at the same time.

Even if I am gaming on my phone, I will use the laptop or another device to search for game hints.

Packing the phone with an ever increasing RAM is not a good direction.

Heck even an iPhone XS Max is packed with 4 GB RAM only.

I think Google is trying to balance or optimize the memory usage in Android to catch up with iOS.

How do u know minority? Obviously it’s mobile games hence I play on the go. If I want to use laptop to search for guides I might as well also play the games on it too? Likewise your way of using the phone could be minority.

iOS and android have different ram management approach. So not sure why are u bringing in iOS. Android generally requires more ram, you can Google about it.

Nonetheless if u find the 4gb sufficient den really good for u. Just pray it doesn’t lead to more issues over time. Let’s see how it goes.

 

[||||||||||]

some valid points stated over the hardware.

#scratchgate
#poor video audio
#uneven speaker volume


when will google ever learn?

 

[deathst]

Your scenario is not very practical.

Only a small minority group of people will do game + YouTube + browsing at the same time.

Even if I am gaming on my phone, I will use the laptop or another device to search for game hints.

Packing the phone with an ever increasing RAM is not a good direction.

Heck even an iPhone XS Max is packed with 4 GB RAM only.

I think Google is trying to balance or optimize the memory usage in Android to catch up with iOS.

Your scenario also not practical. Not everyone brings around a laptop or have an extra device on them as well.

There is a reason why there is an increase in amount of RAM as well. Mobile operating system are designed to use as much ram to cache apps and processes in the background to reduce CPU loading everything from storage from scratch over and over.

Your screens require more memory too as your resolutions increases as well. Graphics like icons and images has to be of higher resolution too to make up for higher dpi displays. It is inevitable that RAM has to increase.

Apple gets away with lower amount of RAM cause they employ memory compression to decrease the app or processes resident memory. On their Macbook they also use a variable swap memory to hold memory in hard disk. Not sure if this is also employed in iOS but they can swap up to 40GB memory on a MacBook.

So far studying the source codes and developing apps. Android has no sorts of compression right now so everything is full size and with apps becoming more and more complex it need the memory in the RAM. Your settings apps itself already take up around 300 mb.

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[Alexz_Hong]

To me ah, doesn't hurt to have a bit more RAM for future proofing sake. For me it's probably enough, cause I'm not a heavy apps user and normally don't install too many apps on my phone. I am also that guy that goes into app settings and manually set app restrictions like not letting them run in the background or use background data. I'm a stickler for such things. Which was why I loved using iOS last time since they have more granular controls ironically. But since then Google has caught up of course.

But regular consumers likely won't be that careful. They'll just install whatever they need. So a little more RAM definitely doesn't hurt, maybe other than a bit more battery drain?

But anyway, I think it's something that can be fixed with a software update. Considering I've seen other modern phones with 4GB RAM not facing the same issues that some people said they are facing. But a little extra headroom doesn't hurt man.

iOS typically requires less RAM compared to Android to perform as well in terms of retaining apps in a saved state. So to me a little headroom doesn't hurt, considering they are planning to keep providing software updates for 3 years.

Looking at how even Apple has upgraded the RAM to 4Gb for their flagship device, it feels like Apple is selling a phone that is meant to be more future proof. More processing power than is needed, more RAM than is needed. Whereas it feels like Google is selling a phone that is meant to be good at this point in time only, and not planning too far ahead. Just my 0.2 cents.

 

[wizardmao]

To me ah, doesn't hurt to have a bit more RAM for future proofing sake. For me it's probably enough, cause I'm not a heavy apps user and normally don't install too many apps on my phone. I am also that guy that goes into app settings and manually set app restrictions like not letting them run in the background or use background data. I'm a stickler for such things. Which was why I loved using iOS last time since they have more granular controls ironically. But since then Google has caught up of course.

But regular consumers likely won't be that careful. They'll just install whatever they need. So a little more RAM definitely doesn't hurt, maybe other than a bit more battery drain?

But anyway, I think it's something that can be fixed with a software update. Considering I've seen other modern phones with 4GB RAM not facing the same issues that some people said they are facing. But a little extra headroom doesn't hurt man.

iOS typically requires less RAM compared to Android to perform as well in terms of retaining apps in a saved state. So to me a little headroom doesn't hurt, considering they are planning to keep providing software updates for 3 years.

Looking at how even Apple has upgraded the RAM to 4Gb for their flagship device, it feels like Apple is selling a phone that is meant to be more future proof. More processing power than is needed, more RAM than is needed. Whereas it feels like Google is selling a phone that is meant to be good at this point in time only, and not planning too far ahead. Just my 0.2 cents.

Yes it doesnt hurt to have a little more headroom for whatever. For future proofing I suppose 1-2 years is more than sufficient. How many actually use their phones more than 4yrs anyway.

Your point in bold is also one of the things many mainstream users dont realize and dont bother with. Install every ****, on every ****, then overtime complain android slowdown after months of purchase, lag and the list goes on.

Actually the decision is pretty simple, if something doesnt suit your needs then go ahead to purchase something else that suit your needs.

 

[Alexz_Hong]

Yes it doesnt hurt to have a little more headroom for whatever. For future proofing I suppose 1-2 years is more than sufficient. How many actually use their phones more than 4yrs anyway.

Your point in bold is also one of the things many mainstream users dont realize and dont bother with. Install every ****, on every ****, then overtime complain android slowdown after months of purchase, lag and the list goes on.

Actually the decision is pretty simple, if something doesnt suit your needs then go ahead to purchase something else that suit your needs.

haha. yeah. But ah, to me the longer the better of course. Even if you upgrade every 2 years, if the phone still runs really well, the demand will still be there for budget hunters. So resale value will be higher too (just see iphones vs android phones).

Or you can pass it down to someone else in the family who doesn't need the latest and greatest. I do know people who don't change phone unless it's broken too, haha. still have friends using s7 edge, iPhone 6. Even the iPhone 6S is still a phone that I can live with day to day because it still runs well enough for my needs. Just that the camera isn't that amazing by today's standard. haha.

I actually hope more companies will do what Apple is doing by providing more software support, and giving more headroom for hardware so phones last longer. That's why I like Pixel lineup since the software support is there, just that hardware not quite there yet. haha.

 

[athenodorus]

some valid points stated over the hardware.

Lol I like the video. So funny, especially the last part.

 

[bryant_16]

haha. yeah. But ah, to me the longer the better of course. Even if you upgrade every 2 years, if the phone still runs really well, the demand will still be there for budget hunters. So resale value will be higher too (just see iphones vs android phones).

Or you can pass it down to someone else in the family who doesn't need the latest and greatest. I do know people who don't change phone unless it's broken too, haha. still have friends using s7 edge, iPhone 6. Even the iPhone 6S is still a phone that I can live with day to day because it still runs well enough for my needs. Just that the camera isn't that amazing by today's standard. haha.

I actually hope more companies will do what Apple is doing by providing more software support, and giving more headroom for hardware so phones last longer. That's why I like Pixel lineup since the software support is there, just that hardware not quite there yet. haha.

Yes, that's right. The reason I'm planning to switch to Pixel is the tight integration of Google services/apps to Pixel. Something that has bought me over to Android from iOS.

I'm currently on iPhone X and planning to get Pixel 3 as my main phone. Fair enough, each as their pros and cons. I was initially an Android user during the Froyo/Gingerbread days.. but ever since I switch to iOS, no turning back since then. However, in recent years, I noticed the Pixel project and the increasing great usability of the Google apps prompt me to switch over.

Hope I will be able to continue using Pixel 3 and not switch back to iOS.

 

[DXMachina]

Broke down and recontracted for a Just Black Pixel 3. Vouchers and discounts made it a relatively low-risk decision. Let's see how it goes..

 

[Mr.Chocolate]

anyone interested to sell their pixel 3 recontracted? looking to get one but no one in my family has any recontract up yet unfortunately

 

[kashix]

#scratchgate
#poor video audio
#uneven speaker volume


when will google ever learn?

You can add #blackcrush to it as well

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[Milo-Dino]

How do u know minority? Obviously it’s mobile games hence I play on the go. If I want to use laptop to search for guides I might as well also play the games on it too? Likewise your way of using the phone could be minority.

iOS and android have different ram management approach. So not sure why are u bringing in iOS. Android generally requires more ram, you can Google about it.

Nonetheless if u find the 4gb sufficient den really good for u. Just pray it doesn’t lead to more issues over time. Let’s see how it goes.

Actually if you are a huge gamer, shouldn't you be looking at razer phone 2 or those huawei optimized for gaming phones?

I would I have thought people who buy pixel is more for practical daily use. For leisure, work, and the intelligent ai. Not to mention the fantastic camera

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[deathst]

MKBHD has raised the Memory issue as well "His music app would close sometimes when he takes a picture with music in the background"


Artem Russakovskii:
https://twitter.com/ArtemR/status/1053696050341412865
"My Pixel 3 XL is awful at keeping apps in memory. I can cycle between 2 or 3 apps, and they'd keep dying and reloading.

Compared to other phones, especially ones with more RAM, which can easily keep apps properly running as you switch between them, the Pixel 3s are embarrassing."

His OP6 to compare

 

[shawniiex]

Lol I like the video. So funny, especially the last part.

SLAP A DBRAND ON IT.

 

[athenodorus]

Actually if you are a huge gamer, shouldn't you be looking at razer phone 2 or those huawei optimized for gaming phones?

I would I have thought people who buy pixel is more for practical daily use. For leisure, work, and the intelligent ai. Not to mention the fantastic camera

Sent from Google PIXEL XL using GAGT

I’m not really a hardcore gamer. Just causal. So I prefer an all rounder phone. Am using note 9 and was a pixel 2xl user. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a fan of pixel’s camera, but everything else just isn’t justifiable for the high price tag with many other competitors offering better hardwares recently.

 

[athenodorus]

SLAP A DBRAND ON IT.

Lol he suaned a few youtubers in that video. So sarcastically humorous.