2018 Macbook Pros launched

[Snoweagle]

Does anyone have other macbook prior to MBP 2018? I only have my mail app and safari on, but I could feel my computer radiating quite a bit of heat already.

I'm not sure if its normal as I have never owned a MBP before. The specs of my MBP are as followed: 2.3Ghz quad core, 16gb ram.

Anyone have older MacBook Pro to set as a reference? Is it normal?

I’m using a mid 2015 model and under regular usage even with safari, iTunes, and outlook opened simultaneously, only minimal heat.

The only time heat gets generated quickly is when I open graphics-instensive programs such as lightroom when I do photo editing and the internal fans run faster. I’m running quad-core i7 2.5GHz with 16GB RAM.

 

[dreamer_toons]

Help me decide!

This is my first time buying into the apple ecosystem after buying an ipad pro 3 months back. Reason for getting an MBP is because of uni.

I am mainly a business student but i love to do photo editing (LR maybe switching to capture one pro, still learning PS) as a hobby. May or may not be going into video (FCPX).

Have the following options available to me.

1) 13" MBP TB: i5 quad core, 16gb ram, 512gb, + applecare: $3,258 (free beats solo 3)

2) 13" MBP TB: i7 quad core, 16gb ram, 256gb, + applecare: $3,346 (free beats solo 3)

3) 15" MBP TB base model, from uni roadshow: i7 6 core, 16gb ram, 256gb, + applecare: $3,326 (nothing free)

4) 15" MBP TB 2017 refurbished: i7 4 core, 16gb ram, 256gb, + apple care: $3,159

If you are planning to do photo/video editing, I suggest to go for the 15" and a bigger capacity storage.

Reason is these media files are large and they take up lots of storage. External storage may be a sound solution to address limited storage on your MBP, but during the editing/encoding, the processing of these large files will take longer time since they reside on external storage.

I have a 2017 15" with 256GB storage and my media files resides on a USB-C external drive and it take some time to edit/encode the files with Photoshop and Premier.

If budget allows, 32GB memory will be ideal too.

 

[jsoh123]

what does yr activity monitor say? which app with highest power use? which app causing e cpu to b at 100%?

It seems to be ok now? Apparently, activity monitor is the top cpu consumer. haha. and some windows server app.

 

[TrueBeliever_jh]

 

[EJB]

That time 2016 only had 16GB, I didn't opt for additional storage as it's costly, and I have a 4TB NAS outside. It's discipline to keep the MBP clean from files that I'm not working on. So once I'm done, I transfer them to my NAS and do not keep working copies on the MBP.

I honestly would be glad to have 32GB RAM, but for now, 20-30GB of files editing on LR on 16GB and converting them to JPEG is a breeze, although I dare say the laptop heats up while working to do so.

 

[rohitntu]

OT a little,

do you guys hook up your macbook to any external monitor? if so what is it?

The LG 4K and 5K displays.

 

[htngwilliam]

The LG 4K and 5K displays.

Why not connect to 4K TV and use it as monitor?

 

[TrueBeliever_jh]

That time 2016 only had 16GB, I didn't opt for additional storage as it's costly, and I have a 4TB NAS outside. It's discipline to keep the MBP clean from files that I'm not working on. So once I'm done, I transfer them to my NAS and do not keep working copies on the MBP.

I honestly would be glad to have 32GB RAM, but for now, 20-30GB of files editing on LR on 16GB and converting them to JPEG is a breeze, although I dare say the laptop heats up while working to do so.

yeah. the SSD is really up to whether you do housekeeping or not.

if you do, you can save quite a bit of money.

 

[EJB]

yeah. the SSD is really up to whether you do housekeeping or not.

if you do, you can save quite a bit of money.

I came from 128GB SSD on my 13" (manually upgraded myself), it was seriously not enough.

When I changed to 256, same... I decided I need to be more disciplined... so when I did my 15" BTO, being able to afford 512/1TB is another story, but I decided to discipline myself and not leave every wedding/event I shoot on my Mac desktop.

When it gets full, now I know it's time to plugin my USB-C ethernet adaptor and start copying. Wifi's painfully slow despite my network is all Wireless-N.

 

[htngwilliam]

If u have external HDD, I presume the storage is not crucial. Always good to max it out if u can afford.

 

[EJB]

If u have external HDD, I presume the storage is not crucial. Always good to max it out if u can afford.

Issue is my depreciation is always targeted at 5 years.

My unibody Mid-2010 13" has lasted me 8 years, and still going strong (except fried WiFi and cackling speakers and also dead batteries <45mins). But I decided to get the new TB MBP in 2016 cos its >5 years already.

Maxing out is not an issue, issue is does the depreciation makes sense. I love the new 15" TB, is really nice, but shelling out 6k++ on it for 4TB storage is... is...

I only need the dedicated GPU upgraded (4GB) and also RAM maxed (32GB) would suffice. 256GB is surprisingly still sufficient for me.

Another 3 years to go before I decide if I the MBP TB is still sufficient or time to upgrade.

 

[rvyne7]

I happen to dropby at nubox today and tested those mid-2017 model

anyone else those been using 13" MBP or MB feels 15" keyboard layout bit weird?

still waiting for my order to arrived by tuesday/wednesday already thinking returning it and get those 13"

I notice my wrist seems feeling weird and restless if typing for long on those 15" or maybe just used on 13" (never encounter this issue on my windows laptop though)

Anyways I called the CS it seems you can still use the MBP and return it if you're not satisify with your order I was worried coz its custom specs + installment but they said no issue returning it and even advise me to try it first (definitely will test for 1-2 days)

I feel 16gb + i7 6 core and 1tb really perfect for my used but if I feel not comfy i'll probably return it.. anyways aside from mobile/web dev... I only used it for gaming which is connected to eGPU (i5 + 4 core hopefully enough)

 

[SWQ1621]

Hey guys.. Got myself a macbook from best Denki. Got 5 free gifts. sleeve, key protector, usb-c to usb, usb-c to hdmi and Microsoft office.

 

[teadee]

I got the i9 model and was quite worried and was considering to exchange it for the i7 model as I read online that the i9 model performs worse than the 2017 model. As my friend got the 2018 i7 higher end model, I decided to run some quick test as I cannot find the results of i7 2018 vs i9 online so far. The test isn’t very comprehensive as it’s for my own reference, but it gives a rough idea of 2018 i7 vs i9 CPU performance for those considering returning.

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Cinebench CPU Test:
i7 Turbo Boost Enabled with force Max Fan: 921
i7 Turbo Boost Disabled: 835
i9 Turbo Boost Enabled with force Max Fan: 935
i9 Turbo Boost Disabled: 945

On the i9 the thermal throttling is making it difficult to even maintain its base clock speed of 2.9Ghz due to it keep boosting to approx 3.7-4Ghz right after cooling, before severely throttling again after 1-2 seconds. I figured that if I disable Turbo Boost, I can make it maintain at 2.9Ghz as it won’t boost and overheat. True enough, it maintained at 2.9Ghz at approx 80 degrees celcius. In fact as seen from the above results, the i9 without turbo boost performs better than with turbo boost enabled.

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HandBrake 4K Encoding Test:
Both the MacBooks are throttling to about the same GHz range. The estimated time on both MacBooks are very similar, with the i9 having slightly better estimate time (~1-2mins out of 28mins). I did not time the entire encoding as I didn’t have the patience*to wait for 28 minutes. However from my observation after performing this test several times, it shows that the i9 is slightly faster than the i7 model.

I also performed this test with turbo boost disabled expecting better estimated time. However the estimated time remained the same...

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After these quick test, I feel more assured that the i9 does not perform worse than the i7. As a result, I will not be exchanging my i9 to i7. It seems that Apple can improve the performance of i9 by simply updating the firmware to manually lower the max turbo boost speed so that the CPU doesn’t get excessively hot and throttle. Apple can run some test and find a sweet spot that the i9 CPU will not throttle excessively. This might lead to a much better performance as the CPU will be able to sustain at a higher clock speed as demonstrated when i9 without turbo boost performs better than with turbo boost.

The only disappointing thing is that I was expecting the handbrake encoding speed to be much better. My base mid 2012 rMBP*with i7 quad core has estimated encoding time of 50-60 mins. Intel’s latest hexacore CPU is only performing 2X better than a 6 year old quad core. I was expecting more...

 

[TrueBeliever_jh]

forgotten to put this video here

MBP 2018 i7 vs i9
warning: a lot of number.

whether you wanna trust the YouTuber, it's all up to you.

 

[hereiam7788]

yes actually I'm waiting to see if this new model no issue with bootcamp and eGPU.

there's also what prioritization I need to get right now performance issue wise my MBP 2016 still works like a charm can still keep up with latest games and mobile+web dev (boost with eGPU + 4k monitor lol)... my real issue is mostly on storage. I have 500gb SSD... 150 on MacOS and 350 on Bootcamp both running out too fast. Already trying to move some files on my external drive

I'm more dire needs of new iPad than MBP huehue.

i have 50GB for masOs and the rest for bootcamp.

 

[htngwilliam]

So far quite happy with the new MacBook Pro. No real complain. Didn’t have a chance to try video/ photo editing yet.

The touchbar looks quite interesting although I had the impression that it is crap. Haha! Actually quite useful in terms of some quick selection

 

[rvyne7]

The touchbar looks quite interesting although I had the impression that it is crap. Haha! Actually quite useful in terms of some quick selection

from 2 years of my experience on using MBP with TB, I can tell you now you'll excites on that TB features will quite down fast...

you'll soon realized it's just expensive waste of space, honestly I can only think of using it to adjust light and volume...

inconvenient too for some programs that uses F functions... (when bootcamp normally using it for dev/gaming related task I've completely switch this with F functions mode)

i have 50GB for masOs and the rest for bootcamp.

why not just completely switch for windows laptop? haha I been trying to squish every single disk space on boot camp but I couldn't do less than 150gb for MacOS huehue... For normal usage normally I do it on MacOS only switch W10 Bootcamp for gaming specially I do my stuff at work on my Windows Laptop so I dont want to be reminded of work while at home

 

[dreamer_toons]

from 2 years of my experience on using MBP with TB, I can tell you now you'll excites on that TB features will quite down fast...

you'll soon realized it's just expensive waste of space, honestly I can only think of using it to adjust light and volume...

inconvenient too for some programs that uses F functions... (when bootcamp normally using it for dev/gaming related task I've completely switch this with F functions mode)

Having the same experience; only use the TB to adjust my volume or mute it all the time since my brightness is already on Auto. Other than that, I have no other use for the TB yet .

 

[htngwilliam]

Any good mouse to recommend? I want to get a mouse for my MacBook Pro. Should I buy Magic Mouse 2 or Logitech MX master 2/ anywhere 2S?