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depends if hosp takes u in

actually hypothetically, say pedestrian tio hit and its a death, this PMD person at most few weeks jail time

LTA is direct report to Mr lee. unlike other sectors.

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Can’t be considered under the Traffic Act, but i think still got the PMD one.

Active Mobility Act and in tandem for consideration under the Penal code. Rash and Negligent i think is 304
 

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Can’t be considered under the Traffic Act, but i think still got the PMD one.

Active Mobility Act and in tandem for consideration under the Penal code. Rash and Negligent i think is 304
not much. fine only few k's nia, been thru lawsuit just 18 months ago. took 5 years to end
 

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not much. fine only few k's nia, been thru lawsuit just 18 months ago. took 5 years to end
Reminder to always take care of ourselves and be on a lookout. You were involved in one? Which perspective, as the Plaintiff?
 

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Reminder to always take care of ourselves and be on a lookout
always insist TP to come to the accident site. ur normal police 's photos is not acceptable in court admission. becos photo not taken by TP.

we sort of manage to convince the judge to at least use it as supporting evidence. partly also bc, we have a family friend who works for LTA gave us help that he isnt supposed to

Police and TP isnt on same page
 

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always insist TP to come to the accident site. ur normal police 's photos is not acceptable in court admission. becos photo not taken by TP.

we sort of manage to convince the judge to at least use it as supporting evidence. partly also bc, we have a family friend who works for LTA gave us help that he isnt supposed to

Police and TP isnt on same page
Wait…. When u say We, were u part of the Prosecution involved with the Civil Proceedings, or were you claiming for liabilities as the Plaintiff.

Ooh didn’t know they hold separate identities for a Public Prosecution
 

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Wait…. When u say We, were u part of the Prosecution involved with the Civil Proceedings, or were you claiming for liabilities as the Plaintiff.

Ooh didn’t know they hold separate identities for a Public Prosecution
DPP takes it from Police CID. but photos not admissible that the PMD was modified and illegal and speeding at 40km/hr on pavement/shared path

plaintiff was my mother. u think DPP side w u? LOL .... we did the CSI photos and measure in accordance as how engineers do detail site visit and detailed it in standard SG GOVT reporting format and pass it to judge on our own accord .

we even took photos to show, along the shared path, there was numerous sign board and was clear enough, not to speed. it was proven w onsite photo on that fateful day and as well as using google maps. judge says ok supoorting evidence taken in
 

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DPP takes it from Police CID. but photos not admissible that the PMD was modified and illegal and speeding at 40km/hr on pavement/shared path

plaintiff was my mother
Oh! That makes a lot of sense. I overly complicated it in my mind.

ahhhh icic the photos on the illegal modifications were not admissible because is not the relevant authorities, they would be deemed to be exercising discretion beyond their legal boundaries if not wrong.

Curious if it went to trial or was it decided at summary? Was the triable matters pertaining to the liabilities?
 

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Oh! That makes a lot of sense. I overly complicated it in my mind.

ahhhh icic the photos on the illegal modifications were not admissible because is not the relevant authorities, they would be deemed to be exercising discretion beyond their legal boundaries if not wrong.

Curious if it went to trial or was it decided at summary? Was the triable matters pertaining to the liabilities?
it went onto extended trial. becos we prove that it was also illegal modification
so CID took it, paperwork "lost" they pass on to LTA. LTA says, no TP papers leh cannot release for photo taking, no papers no idea where it is....

that's where family friend help. he roughly know who is the PIC and located the PMD
 

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it went onto extended trial. becos we prove that it was also illegal modification
so CID took it, paperwork "lost" they pass on to LTA. LTA says, no TP papers leh cannot release for photo taking, no papers no idea where it is....

that's where family friend help. he roughly know who is the PIC and located the PMD
Wa!!!! That’s a huge stroke of luck!! And glad things went well!! W/o which the matter probably couldnt proceed le
 

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Wa!!!! That’s a huge stroke of luck!! And glad things went well!! W/o which the matter probably couldnt proceed le
u mean kek sim?

heng on that day, we din go hosp Immediately . we all went take photos first . prove it was a good clear skies day and so on. police bo huey. u try to take photos collect evdience also cannot. in the end their own version of photos was bad and insufficient

edit: it was this incident, i realise in singapore, law isnt on the side for commoners. the people trusted the system... in the end the poor victim need to prove themselves instead?
 
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