5GbE and beyond ethernet adapters

[hctingcmslll]

I also tried the wave link 5Gbe adapter on my Acer usb4, 32 G ram, i7-13700h, SSD, mcafee disabled but at best got only 1900 mbps download, 4600 mbps upload, not as good as xiaofan’s

 

[xiaofan]

I also tried the wave link 5Gbe adapter on my Acer usb4, 32 G ram, i7-13700h, SSD, mcafee disabled but at best got only 1900 mbps download, 4600 mbps upload, not as good as xiaofan’s

Your laptop spec is good. I will actually suggest you to remove McAfee totally as it may be worse than a virus. But that is just my personal preference (or bias against any 3rd party antivirus utilities under Windows). Whenever I got a new Acer laptop (four Acer Swift series laptops since Dec 2017), the first thing I did is to remove McAfee trial.

I use Windows built-in security, as well as DNS based filter like Pi-hole or Adguard Home or OpenWRT adblock-fast or pfSense pfBlockerNG-devel. The last one is more than DNS filter but also firewall based filter, so it is the most powerful one.

 

[deathblade82]

I just bought 1 of this too thanks to @xiaofan intro on page 1 ... hahaha hopefully, it's still the better one right now?

~$40SGD, after factoring shipping ?

 

[SNAG]

Just curious - are folks using enterprise SFP NICs (Mellanox, Intel) facing ASPM issues in Windows?
I'm currently using a AQC113 card in Windows (no issues yet), but wonder on this.

Sharing an example below:

https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/sfp-cards-with-aspm-support.36817/

 

[kashix]

~$40SGD, after factoring shipping ?

Yep around $40 you bought too?

 

[sglandscape]

Just curious - are folks using enterprise SFP NICs (Mellanox, Intel) facing ASPM issues in Windows?
I'm currently using a AQC113 card in Windows (no issues yet), but wonder on this.

Sharing an example below:

https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/sfp-cards-with-aspm-support.36817/

Just gave up and lived with no power saving mode for it. Despite updating to the latest firmware I could never get it to work

 

[leeivan86]

Based on experience Realtek adapters first gen are not that good. Remember the first 2.5gb Realtek RTL8156, it had issues and took sometime before we see a RTL8156gb that was finally much more stable.

 

[xiaofan]

@Mach3.2 or the admin (@ykeen)

Please help to change the title to "5GbE and beyond ethernet adapters" now that 5GbE adapters are also discussed along with 10GbE and above.

The original titel seems to be a typo, it should have been "10GbE and beyond ethernet adapters". I am fine with this as well since 5GbE adapters are not the focus.

 

[lumpyme]

for wifi pc adapters, what threat to read ah?
seems like no info

 

[xiaofan]

for wifi pc adapters, what threat to read ah?
seems like no info

You can check out this thread.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/wifi-7-device-speedtest-and-wifi-7-adapters.7048233/

 

[ykeen]

@Mach3.2 or the admin (@ykeen)

Please help to change the title to "5GbE and beyond ethernet adapters" now that 5GbE adapters are also discussed along with 10GbE and above.

The original titel seems to be a typo, it should have been "10GbE and beyond ethernet adapters". I am fine with this as well since 5GbE adapters are not the focus.

edited, but if 10GE and beyond adapters, wah who gonna buy for home use.. 100G ? not much use case la

 

[xiaofan]

edited, but if 10GE and beyond adapters, wah who gonna buy for home use.. 100G ? not much use case la

Haha, not so fast to 100Gbps probably, but some ISPs in other places have come out with 25Gbps and even 50Gbps Fibre internet service.

ISPs in China are also starting to use 50G-PON technology to deploy 10Gbps service now. So they can actually deploy 25Gbps service in the future as well -- but need to change the FTTR solution on the user side.

Let's see if next version of IMDA COPIF guidelines will have Fibre Cables along with CAT6 Ethernet cables in
multi-storey residential buildings.

Referene dicussions: Post 10Gbps Internet: 25Gbps or Higher
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/post-10gbps-internet-25gbps-or-higher.7062132/

 

[Jurong640]

Haha, not so fast to 100Gbps probably, but some ISPs in other places have come out with 25Gbps and even 50Gbps Fibre internet service.

ISPs in China are also starting to use 50G-PON technology to deploy 10Gbps service now. So they can actually deploy 25Gbps service in the future as well -- but need to change the FTTR solution on the user side.

Let's see if next version of IMDA COPIF guidelines will have Fibre Cables along with CAT6 Ethernet cables in
multi-storey residential buildings.

Referene dicussions: Post 10Gbps Internet: 25Gbps or Higher
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/post-10gbps-internet-25gbps-or-higher.7062132/

wah, that's very fast to catch up with technology. when i just wanted to buy a 10G ethernet card for my PC, now 25 and 50? ahhh

 

[xiaofan]

wah, that's very fast to catch up with technology. when i just wanted to buy a 10G ethernet card for my PC, now 25 and 50? ahhh

No need to worry about that now. I tend to think 10Gbps networking gears may still be okay for use for anther 10 years and we may well still have 10Gbps plan in 2034.

 

[deathblade82]

Yep around $40 you bought too?

Didn't

It is also ~$40 on Shopee including shipping, just see whether can get any lower than this.

Hahaha.

 

[matique]

Didn't

It is also ~$40 on Shopee including shipping, just see whether can get any lower than this.

Hahaha.

Stack vouchers? This is what I got mine for.

 

[deathblade82]

Stack vouchers? This is what I got mine for.

Yup, unless you have vouchers

 

[sglandscape]

No need to worry about that now. I tend to think 10Gbps networking gears may still be okay for use for anther 10 years and we may well still have 10Gbps plan in 2034.

Downgraded from having 10G everywhere to using 10G for backbone and 2.5G for endpoints when Hasvio released affordable managed switches. Have seen power savings of at least 25%.

Think 10G would likely come down in price in the near future, and the next leap to Sfp28 / 25G is going to take more than a decade given its cost, need for active cooling (based on current chips) and no real need for such speeds for most users.

 

[leeivan86]

when we go beyond 8k streaming media is probably when there will be an uptick in demand for speeds beyond 10gbps.
Ie 16k display standard which is what DP2.1 supports

 

[sglandscape]

when we go beyond 8k streaming media is probably when there will be an uptick in demand for speeds beyond 10gbps

There is little real world use for 8K content unless 100" and larger panels and televisions become more mainstream. The other use case would be content providers increase the bitrate to improve perceived quality (but why would they if it would cost them more, YouTube is a perfect example of going the other way of applying more aggressive compression to reduce bandwidth cost).

If you monitor your network bandwidth, even multiple streams of 4K content barely saturate a 500Mbps link (a Netflix 4k stream require only around 20Mbps).