5GbE and beyond ethernet adapters

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Sharing a good SFP 10gbE adapter. Found something that has only 1.35W output. Haven't tested on full load but this runs pretty cool on my UDM-PRO at only 40 degrees. Able to achieve 10gbE link on a 30m CAT6A cable. EDIT: meant to say my PCIe PC adapter is using AQC113 chipset.

(Select the 1.35W version).
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took the plunged and hooted the same 1.35W SFP adaptor

works very well my alta labs router and my mellanox cx4 nic. on router side, heatwise it's...manageable? feels like freshly steam milk from a barista coffee machine. probably 60-70 degrees?

on pc side it's quite cool

router side: incoming WAN from ONT and outing LAN to desktop



 

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the adapter randomly disconnects or disconnects when conducting a speed test.

I tested with a Dell 7060 which has a usb-c 3.1 10gbps port as well as my desktop B450I with USB A to C adapter as my PC doesnt have a usb-c port .
I had the same issue as you. Connect the adapter to my PC USB Type C gen 3.2 port and updated the latest drivers. Whenever PC hits a high network load, the device will disconnect and reconnect again. Very frustrating.
 

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took the plunged and hooted the same 1.35W SFP adaptor

works very well my alta labs router and my mellanox cx4 nic. on router side, heatwise it's...manageable? feels like freshly steam milk from a barista coffee machine. probably 60-70 degrees?

on pc side it's quite cool

router side: incoming WAN from ONT and outing LAN to desktop




SFP+ to SFP+ why not just use a DAC?? Unless you need to run a distance.

It's so much cooler.

Yes. A cool RJ45 transceiver module runs around slightly warmer than 60 only. I am using 10Gtek on my MikroTik.​

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SFP+ to SFP+ why not just use a DAC?? Unless you need to run a distance.

It's so much cooler.

Yes. A cool RJ45 transceiver module runs around slightly warmer than 60 only. I am using 10Gtek.

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The DAC cable is fairly cheap, runs cooler and has lower latency too. In fact for short runs I switched from fibre to DAC, let alone use a copper base SFP transceiver which is the least ideal.
 

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The DAC cable is fairly cheap, runs cooler and has lower latency too. In fact for short runs I switched from fibre to DAC, let alone use a copper base SFP transceiver which is the least ideal.

Unfortunately the cheap DAC cables do not work well to connect my two Hasivo switches (short distance), one with 8 SFP+ ports, the other one with single SFP+ port, one 10G RJ45 port and quad 2.5G ports.

In the end I have to use Fibre cables and SFP+ optic modules to link them up.

So far, SFP+ optic modules + Fibre, and SFP+ RJ45 modules + CAT 6 cable, have never created issues for me. DAC cables are a bit problematic. Guess that is the price to pay when using cheap switches.

I bought one DAC cable from 10Gtek, three DAC cables from ONTi, and then two 广联 brand DAC cables from the shop selling the low temp SFP+ 10G RJ45 module (光通信科技). They are working well in most cases, but not between the two Hasivo switches. Also problematic between my mini PC and the Hasivo 8-port SFP+ switch. I guess this Hasivo SFP+ switch is the problem in the end, but it has no issues with SFP+ modules plus Fibre cables (single mode or multi-mode, cheap second hand one or more expensive ones).
 
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Unfortunately the cheap DAC cables do not work well to connect my two Hasivo switches (short distance), one with 8 SFP+ ports, the other one with single SFP+ port, one 10G RJ45 port and quad 2.5G ports.

In the end I have to use Fibre cables and SFP+ optic modules to link them up.

So far, SFP+ optic modules + Fibre, and SFP+ RJ45 modules + CAT 6 cable, have never created issues for me. DAC cables are a bit problematic. Guess that is the price to pay when using cheap switches.

I bought one DAC cable from 10Gtek, three DAC cables from ONTi, and then two 广联 brand DAC cables from the shop selling the low temp SFP+ 10G RJ45 module (光通信科技). They are working well in most cases, but not between the two Hasivo switches. Also problematic between my mini PC and the Hasivo 8-port SFP+ switch. I guess this Hasivo SFP+ switch is the problem in the end, but it has no issues with SFP+ modules plus Fibre cables (single mode or multi-mode, cheap second hand one or more expensive ones).

Actually it is pretty rare for (OEM) DAC not to work since it has always been working for me on the field as compared to using SFP+ tranceiver modules (LC fiber and RJ45). That is really the Hassvio issue like you said.

At least to me, such switches I will avoid if I could. But that is just me. If I am not wrong, most of these low cost switches uses realtek chips which I am not a fan of (TPlink too) including NICs, not the most consistent and reliable network chips from my field experience. But for testing, homelab-ing and nothing mission critical, hey, why not?! It is the most value for money (subjective) for 10G starters. (y)
 
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Actually it is pretty rare for (OEM) DAC not to work since it has always been working for me on the field as compared to using SFP+ tranceiver modules (LC fiber and RJ45). That is really the Hassvio issue like you said.

At least to me, such switches I will avoid if I could. If I am not wrong, most of these low cost switches uses realtek chips which I am not a fan of (TPlink too) including their NICs, not the most consistent and reliable network chips from my field experience. But for testing, homelab-ing and nothing mission critical, hey, why not?! It is the most value for money (subjective) for 10G starters. (y)
Same experience with you, I've never had any issues with DAC cables so far, but have been using HPE and Mikrotik equipment so far.

Have started to switch to the cheaper hasvio switches too to reduce power consumption (fewer ports), and not had any issues with then with DAC interconnect either, as a poor man "stacking".

Mikrotik has pretty decent 4port SFP+/10Gbe switches at affordable price point. For a homelab would recommend those as the core switch. Use the hasvio for POE or 2.5G endpoints instead.
 

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has anyone have any experience with

HPE 817738-B21 X550-T2
or

the huawei SP331 X550-T2
 

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Actually it is pretty rare for (OEM) DAC not to work since it has always been working for me on the field as compared to using SFP+ tranceiver modules (LC fiber and RJ45). That is really the Hassvio issue like you said.

At least to me, such switches I will avoid if I could. But that is just me. If I am not wrong, most of these low cost switches uses realtek chips which I am not a fan of (TPlink too) including NICs, not the most consistent and reliable network chips from my field experience. But for testing, homelab-ing and nothing mission critical, hey, why not?! It is the most value for money (subjective) for 10G starters. (y)

Totally understand.

I am not ready to go with the more expensive MikroTik/QNAP/Ubiquiti switches myself.

I am using this as a learning exercises and I think I have spent more than S$1000 for 10G related stuff this year (one Intel N100 mini PC with dual SFP+ ports, four 2.5G/10G mixed switches, two 10G switches, two 10G PCI-E NICs, two 10G USB4 NICs, a few SFP+ optic modules including BiDI versions, four SFP+ RJ45 modules, a few DAC cables, fibre cables including transparent fibre cables, etc). I think along the way I wasted quite a bit of money since they are not suitable for my use cases or are redudant. Still missing one 10G capable WiFi 7 AP but I will wait for next year (budget S$400). It is okay as part of the price to pay as I am a non-networking professional trying to learn more about networking stuff.

I told my wife that her S$1800 iPhone 14 512GB version can buy my networking stuff plus my <S$400 Android phone. So she is okay. :D

I have better lucks with my 2.5Gbe experiments where I also spent about S$1000 in 2023 and early 2024, but all of them are quite okay (one TP-Link 8-port 2.5G switch, two Intel N100 CPU based mini PCs, four 2.5G capable dual band China WiFi 7 routers).

Unfortunately I did not expect 10Gbps Fibre internet plans to be deployed so quickly in Singapore and the price drops so fast this year. If not I might spend less on 2.5Gbe stuff and diverted part of those money to 10G stuff. Anyway, the 2.5Gbe stuff are still useful and not wasted, so not a big problem.
 
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Totally understand.

I am not ready to go with the more expensive MikroTik/QNAP/Ubiquiti switches myself.

I am using this as a learning exercises and I think I have spent more than S$1000 for 10G related stuff this year (one Intel N100 mini PC with dual SFP+ ports, four 2.5G/10G mixed switches, two 10G switches, two 10G PCI-E NICs, two 10G USB4 NICs, a few SFP+ optic modules including BiDI versions, four SFP+ RJ45 modules, a few DAC cables, fibre cables including transparent fibre cables, etc). I think along the way I wasted quite a bit of money since they are not suitable for my use cases or are redudant. Still missing one 10G capable WiFi 7 AP but I will wait for next year (budget S$400). It is okay as part of the price to pay as I am a non-networking professional trying to learn more about networking stuff.

I told my wife that her S$1800 iPhone 14 512GB version can buy my networking stuff plus my <S$400 Android phone. So she is okay. :D

I have better lucks with my 2.5Gbe experiments where I also spent about S$1000 in 2023 and early 2024, but all of them are quite okay (one TP-Link 8-port 2.5G switch, two Intel N100 CPU based mini PCs, four 2.5G capable dual band China WiFi 7 routers).

Unfortunately I did not expect 10Gbps Fibre internet plans to be deployed so quickly in Singapore and the price drops so fast this year. If not I might spend less on 2.5Gbe stuff and diverted part of those money to 10G stuff. Anyway, the 2.5Gbe stuff are still useful and not wasted, so not a big problem.

DACs are great especially if you are using a full SFP+ switch for 10G short runs.

You can connect all the 10G links side-by-side and optimise the switch layout without worrying on heat issue or the need to stagger the connectors. Though I still provided a fan in the picture, it is mainly for the last RJ45 SFP+ transceiver module connecting to my uplink core switch.

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DACs are great especially if you are using a full SFP+ switch for 10G short runs.

You can connect all the 10G links side-by-side and optimise the switch layout without worrying on heat issue or the need to stagger the connectors. Though I still provided a fan in the picture, it is mainly for the last RJ45 SFP+ transceiver module connecting to my uplink core switch.

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😂 You bluetag the annoying front blue LED but have green LEDs at the back. Very neat cable runs! How are the temps with the 10GBase-T with what appears to be a Noctua fan running below?
 

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😂 You bluetag the annoying front blue LED but have green LEDs at the back. Very neat cable runs! How are the temps with the 10GBase-T with what appears to be a Noctua fan running below?

You noticed my fav blue tag deployment! These green LED lights are for show Nia. :ROFLMAO:

Most of the time, all lights are off since this switch resides in my bedroom.

With my silent Noctua's fan blowing, normally around 53 - 55:
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SFP+ to SFP+ why not just use a DAC?? Unless you need to run a distance.

It's so much cooler.

Yes. A cool RJ45 transceiver module runs around slightly warmer than 60 only. I am using 10Gtek on my MikroTik.​

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my current run from router to pc is about ~20m ish?

might just run fibre cables in the future when i'm less lazy, so now just use back existing cat6 cable :s13:
 

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I just bought 1 of this too thanks to @xiaofan intro on page 1 ... hahaha hopefully, it's still the better one right now?

I would not say it is good as you can see different people have different test results. Under Windows the performance is very inconsistent -- you may need to use newer generation computers with USB 4 port to have better results. But if you use Apple computers with Apple Silicon, then the results seem to be good. On the other hand, you do not really have choices as other more established brands have already EOLed their early generation more expensive 5Gbe USB adapters. And for its price, I guess we should not complain.

As brother @TanKianW mentioned, networking chips from RealTek are in general not very good, no matter for network switches and network adapters.
I myself have quite a few of the lower cost stuff (2.5G/10G switches, 10G switches, USB 2.5G adapters, USB and PCI-E 5Gbe adapters, USB WiFi 7 adapters) based on RealTek chipset. Basically lower cost networking gears are often based on RealTek chipset.

And if you are looking for USB or PCI-E 5Gbe network adapters or USB WiFi 7 adapters now, most likely they are based on RealTek networking chipset.
 

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I would not say it is good as you can see different people have different test results. Under Windows the performance is very inconsistent -- you may need to use newer generation computers with USB 4 port to have better results. But if you use Apple computers with Apple Silicon, then the results seem to be good. On the other hand, you do not really have choices as other more established brands have already EOLed their early generation more expensive 5Gbe USB adapters. And for its price, I guess we should not complain.

As brother @TanKianW mentioned, networking chips from RealTek are in general not very good, no matter for network switches and network adapters.
I myself have quite a few of the lower cost stuff (2.5G/10G switches, 10G switches, USB 2.5G adapters, USB and PCI-E 5Gbe adapters, USB WiFi 7 adapters) based on RealTek chipset. Basically lower cost networking gears are often based on RealTek chipset.

And if you are looking for USB or PCI-E 5Gbe network adapters or USB WiFi 7 adapters now, most likely they are based on RealTek networking chipset.
I’m using for my MacBook Pro, saw the YouTube video before purchasing. Nothing serious, just normal usage haha.
 
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