6800 xt vs 3080

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Haha but currently DirectML is still not released yet. Question is, will it be just a driver update for current 6000 series or only available for maybe let’s say next gen GPU?
DirectML is released already, its just the framework for machine learning using directx. Super resolution (amd's version of dlss) that is developed using directML is planned for inclusion to fidelity fx for 6000 series, but theres no tensor core for speeding things up unlike nvidia, so performance wise have to see.
 

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go for whichever is cheaper.

if both are at the same price, go for 3080.
 

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Red Devil, Nitro+ and Merc319 are all very highly rated. Safe choices. Don't know about Gigabyte and Asus, didn't keep up. Nitro+ seems to have the most stock followed by Red Devil. I haven't seen a single person getting the Merc319 in Singapore.

Anyway imo you shouldn't be thinking of features that may or may not come like DirectML. We don't have a set date and RT for rDNA2 was skirt around by AMD for a reason. When you purchase a card, compare features that are available right when you put it into your computer. Everything else is bonus.

I'm excited for AMD cards next gen. The gap is really2 close than it's ever been for a long time now.

For me, 3080 edges out due to more features at the almost same price. If AMD kept their promise that they will bring prices down to near msrp, 6800 xt is a clear winner. I cannot bring myself to buy a 6800 xt over 3080 at the current moment.

I am still considering at the moment. Comparing the Sapphire Nitro+ SE vs Powercolor Red devil LE, which would be a better call since they're in the same price bracket?

I was told 3060Ti would be a better bang for bucks. But when I'm running on a Xiaomi 34 inch, I'm starting to ponder. :s13:
 

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For me, 3080 edges out due to more features at the almost same price. If AMD kept their promise that they will bring prices down to near msrp, 6800 xt is a clear winner. I cannot bring myself to buy a 6800 xt over 3080 at the current moment.

All comes down to the price. 6800xt would be good if it was actually cheaper than the 3080.

If we're talking top tier AIB on both sides, the Sapphire Nitro 6800xt would be good value. But it's a lot tougher to decide when a Sapphire Nitro 6800xt (among the AMD top tier) and a MSI Ventus 3080 (fairly average, or even lower tier Nvidia AIB) had local srps of 1259 and 1209 respectively.

I was a long-time AMD user who made the switch to Nvidia this gen, which I think was a good choice in retrospect. When I was using AMD, I didn't really miss the features they lacked, but there were always compromises here and there; like really poor OpenGL performance, crappy x264 hardware encoding.

I look forward to trying out AMD cards again one day, but I'm enjoying the Nvidia features so far.
 

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All comes down to the price. 6800xt would be good if it was actually cheaper than the 3080.

If we're talking top tier AIB on both sides, the Sapphire Nitro 6800xt would be good value. But it's a lot tougher to decide when a Sapphire Nitro 6800xt (among the AMD top tier) and a MSI Ventus 3080 (fairly average, or even lower tier Nvidia AIB) had local srps of 1259 and 1209 respectively.

I was a long-time AMD user who made the switch to Nvidia this gen, which I think was a good choice in retrospect. When I was using AMD, I didn't really miss the features they lacked, but there were always compromises here and there; like really poor OpenGL performance, crappy x264 hardware encoding.

I look forward to trying out AMD cards again one day, but I'm enjoying the Nvidia features so far.

Hahaha I guessed the feel as well when I changed my RX480 to 1070ti.

But it was only recently when I started gaming (cos I'm not working now) that the card idea was lingering in my head.

Playing CP2077 on low to medium is no joke man. :s13:
 

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Ok I'm sold.

Should I grab any 6800XT out there, or should i aim for only Sapphire? :s13:

Don't take my word for it bro. I recommend you check out reviews and analysis before you take the plunge. Those were my personal opinion, and the reason why I choose RX 6800 XT. May not be the same reason for you. :s13: I don't take sides, as long as AMD or Nvidia or Intel offers me better value for my use case, I just go for it. I've been using Nvidia for the last 2 generations, just to show that I am not promoting AMD as a fan.
 

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Don't take my word for it bro. I recommend you check out reviews and analysis before you take the plunge. Those were my personal opinion, and the reason why I choose RX 6800 XT. May not be the same reason for you. :s13:

Just kidding bro.

Anyway I've already done some research and I feel that 6800XT is well worth the money in the bracket as well as the memory size. As much as I do like a 3060Ti, price has increased and I'm running a 144hz UWQHD monitor, bigger memory size should make more sense for general gaming. Getting a 3080 these days needs lot of luck unless buying system, which I'm not willing to. :s13:
 

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Just kidding bro.

Anyway I've already done some research and I feel that 6800XT is well worth the money in the bracket as well as the memory size. As much as I do like a 3060Ti, price has increased and I'm running a 144hz UWQHD monitor, bigger memory size should make more sense for general gaming. Getting a 3080 these days needs lot of luck unless buying system, which I'm not willing to. :s13:

It is indeed very difficult to find a RTX 3080 of late. These few weeks, I don't recall hearing or seeing any RTX 3080 drops on Amazon as well. :o
 

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I am still considering at the moment. Comparing the Sapphire Nitro+ SE vs Powercolor Red devil LE, which would be a better call since they're in the same price bracket?

I was told 3060Ti would be a better bang for bucks. But when I'm running on a Xiaomi 34 inch, I'm starting to ponder. :s13:

Those 2 cards performance about the same. See which one the looks you prefer. Personally the powercolor reminds me too much of toaster oven lol. Also can check out XFX speedster merc319
 

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It is indeed very difficult to find a RTX 3080 of late. These few weeks, I don't recall hearing or seeing any RTX 3080 drops on Amazon as well. :o

Exactly. And with Nvidia playing the pricing war, and Nvidia cards mark up to end users, everyone is going to pay 100 USD to almost 300USD premium.

Now in SLS, 3090 are way above 3k. What era are we living man :(
 

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Those 2 cards performance about the same. See which one the looks you prefer. Personally the powercolor reminds me too much of toaster oven lol. Also can check out XFX speedster merc319

But XFX is back in Singapore? :(
 

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Amazon and newegg. I'm selling mine in garage sales but is 6900 xt. Too long for my case
I heard from Tech Dynamic that they're bringing in XFX. But currently 6800XT MERC319 OOS with no ETA.
 

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Exactly. And with Nvidia playing the pricing war, and Nvidia cards mark up to end users, everyone is going to pay 100 USD to almost 300USD premium.

Now in SLS, 3090 are way above 3k. What era are we living man :(

I feel it was an exceptional year in 2020, and likely remain the case for 2021. Prices shot up, supply ran dry most of the time. But it also tells us that we may not have to upgrade. The problem is when things look "cheaper", it will also entice us to upgrade faster. I was fortunate to get my RX 6800 XT because someone in the forum was selling it. Otherwise, I may still be waiting as well. Its certainly not cheap and almost 400 SGD higher than what I would normally be willing to pay for a graphic card. But if this supply issue persist, at least I don't have to chiong for next gen ones le. Take a break. :o
 

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I feel it was an exceptional year in 2020, and likely remain the case for 2021. Prices shot up, supply ran dry most of the time. But it also tells us that we may not have to upgrade. The problem is when things look "cheaper", it will also entice us to upgrade faster. I was fortunate to get my RX 6800 XT because someone in the forum was selling it. Otherwise, I may still be waiting as well. Its certainly not cheap and almost 400 SGD higher than what I would normally be willing to pay for a graphic card. But if this supply issue persist, at least I don't have to chiong for next gen ones le. Take a break. :o

This gen cards is gonna last quite a while since the jump from 5700XT is pretty significant, similar to the RTX 3 series. Thats why I'm having a dilemma if I were to buy vs do I really need it since I don't play games daily. :s13:
 

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Nvenc is just better.

And if you care about emulators, you will notice that most of the time they prioritise Nvidia support.
 

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Nvenc is just better.

And if you care about emulators, you will notice that most of the time they prioritise Nvidia support.

These are great features no doubt and should be considered. But their usefulness really depends on individual's use case. I don't stream, neither do I use emulators. Therefore, these are nice to have but of very low priorityfor me. :)
 

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This gen cards is gonna last quite a while since the jump from 5700XT is pretty significant, similar to the RTX 3 series. Thats why I'm having a dilemma if I were to buy vs do I really need it since I don't play games daily. :s13:

I don't really game as much. Time spent with family and work. But there are some games which may interest me, so having a capable graphic card on hand is handy. That's my reasoning. :o
 

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I don't really game as much. Time spent with family and work. But there are some games which may interest me, so having a capable graphic card on hand is handy. That's my reasoning. :o

After the dumpster fire that is CP2077, I realised I went back to old games like DotA2, CSGO and Starcraft 2. All 3 no need 3080. The only taxing game I play (seldom) is CoDWZ or Blops. Fell into the hype of cp2077

Not interested in far cry, asscreed and hitman. Excited for RE8 though but that seems far off. And I might get that for ps5 for the resale value too.
 

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I don't really game as much. Time spent with family and work. But there are some games which may interest me, so having a capable graphic card on hand is handy. That's my reasoning. :o

Hahaha usually my purchase only happens when I got a sudden need it.. :(
 
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