Alipay in China

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Just to like all know, I have confirm, it work. My friend just transfer to me, I can received, and it is reflected in my "Balance", I have use the amount to pay to one of the vendor personal account and it work...

But there is one thing you need to do, you need the verified your account in the "Balance" manual, you need to submit your Passport detail, picture of your passport and a selfie of yourself, once it is verified, you can received fund, those who want, please hurry, before they shut it down again, like wechat. This is hot news, not alot of people know, but after this , haha, all know liao.

Interesting to know that it actually works now. Using the balance and top up with transfer from friends is much more convenient than Tour pass. Not so sure how long this will work though.
 

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Have tried, but cannot do the transfer, try it on my friend who have china bank card verified, not such why your work.

yup doesn't work, tour pass cannot transfer between individuals, can see that they tag your account as an individual :s22:
 

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yup doesn't work, tour pass cannot transfer between individuals, can see that they tag your account as an individual :s22:

Yes, Tourpass cannot be use to transfer between individual, to do this you will need a friend who have a verified china account to transfer fund to you. Once you accept, the fund will show in your balance, from your balance you will be able to transfer to anyone. I have did it successfully, hope it will not stop to work like wechat. I think it should work, as we have submitted our passport for verification, so no worry on money launching.
 

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I just talked to Customer service. the problem is the tour pass needs your account to be login using a foreign phone number. I login my current alipay account using email address.

Now, I have to create a new alipay account using my phone number. After that the App prompted me to switch the international version.

I tried to top up the tour pass and filing all the information (passport etc). However, after uploading the passport photo, the apps just stop proceeding to the next step:s11:

It should work fine, maybe the system is too busy as it have just started, too many people rush in to register, haha. I have setup for my wife too with no problem, maybe you can try on other phone with other account.
 

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I just talked to Customer service. the problem is the tour pass needs your account to be login using a foreign phone number. I login my current alipay account using email address.

Now, I have to create a new alipay account using my phone number. After that the App prompted me to switch the international version.

I tried to top up the tour pass and filing all the information (passport etc). However, after uploading the passport photo, the apps just stop proceeding to the next step:s11:

I figured out the way to use the old alipay account and still have access to tour pass.

First you need to logon to the alipay.com using browser. Look for 账户设置-基本信息-手机, click the "开启手机登录“ to enable you to login using phone number.

after that, login to your alipay app using your phone number
 

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It should work fine, maybe the system is too busy as it have just started, too many people rush in to register, haha. I have setup for my wife too with no problem, maybe you can try on other phone with other account.

good to know that, will try again next week
 

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Any step by step guide to setup alipay non tour pass to receive payment from others? How to get verified?

Sent from Xiaomi REDMI 7 using GAGT
 

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Any step by step guide to setup alipay non tour pass to receive payment from others? How to get verified?

Sent from Xiaomi REDMI 7 using GAGT
Me > balance, then I think need to upload passport and then verify face

I went through another route which is my friend sent me 1 rmb then to receive it, I had to do the same verification
 

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Any step by step guide to setup alipay non tour pass to receive payment from others? How to get verified?

Sent from Xiaomi REDMI 7 using GAGT

Supposedly you cannot top up without linking to a China bank card or going through some 3rd party services.

But try the following step and tell us whether it works or not. I will consider it as a loophole if it indeed works.

1) Setup Tour Pass
2) Ask your friends with proper Alipay account to transfer money to you.
3) If the transfer goes through and the amount goes to your normal balance and not Tour Pass prepaid account, then transfer back some money back to that friend. If that works, then congratulations you have achieved what you want. Pay the friend in SGD and get RMB from the friend.
4) If not working, sorry the loophole does not work.


Yes, Tourpass cannot be use to transfer between individual, to do this you will need a friend who have a verified china account to transfer fund to you. Once you accept, the fund will show in your balance, from your balance you will be able to transfer to anyone. I have did it successfully, hope it will not stop to work like wechat. I think it should work, as we have submitted our passport for verification, so no worry on money launching.
 
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it actually isn't related to tour pass, all the while you can receive money from someone with china alipay funds if you verify your face and passport
 

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it actually isn't related to tour pass, all the while you can receive money from someone with china alipay funds if you verify your face and passport

As far as I know it used to work but stopped working for many people last year or this year, same as WeChat. But I know that there are conflicting reports for Alipay. So indeed some people may still have this working now.

I use Wechat pay without a China bank card and top up worked for me until June 2019. Now I can not top up either through receiving red packets or through transfer. But I have no problems to send out red packets or transfer out or paying through QR codes with my remaining balance.

https://cshall.alipay.com/lab/help_detail.htm?help_id=215132

Please refer to the above official guide from Alipay. You need a China bank card for Step 4.

The question is whether the Step 4 is required or not.

港澳台及海外用户申请个人认证流程
1 登录支付宝账户( www.alipay.com),点击【账户设置】—【基本信息】—【立即认证】

2 进入认证页面,点击【立即认证】

3 进入到身份验证页面,选择国家地区(图例:中国香港)。填写好姓名、证件号码、证件有效期,选择好出生日期,换证次数后点击证件有效期下面的“确认并提交”按钮.

4 身份信息补全成功后,可选择用“银行卡验证”方式

如选择银行卡验证,则进入绑卡页,直接进入快捷绑定环节.

注:
(1)该卡需要是中国大陆发行的卡
(2)如需进一步补全身份信息,获取更多账户功能,不同地区,需要上传的证件也不同:
台湾用户可提供:台湾居民来往大陆通行证(简称台胞证,只提交基本身份信息页即可)
海外用户可提供:护照(上传时提交基本身份信息页+入境盖章页)
港澳用户可提供:港澳居民来往内地通行证(只提交基本身份信息面即可,纸质通行证或塑料卡两种)

如选择“扫脸验证”,PC端进入引导扫二维码至APP端扫脸验证:

But if it works for you, then that is good for you. If more people confirm this works, then that is really good news.

I still got RMB 10 not able to be used in my Alipay account (not able to transfer in yet not returned to sender) but it is linked to my China Mobile SIM. I will probably create a new Alipay account link to my Singapore SIM to try out later.
 
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As far as I know it used to work but stopped working for many people last year or this year, same as WeChat. But I know that there are conflicting reports for Alipay. So indeed some people may still have this working now.

i see thanks for the info :o
 

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Supposedly you cannot top up without linking to a China bank card or going through some 3rd party services.

But try the following step and tell us whether it works or not. I will consider it as a loophole if it indeed works.

1) Setup Tour Pass
2) Ask your friends with proper Alipay account to transfer money to you.
3) If the transfer goes through and the amount goes to your normal balance and not Tour Pass prepaid account, then transfer back some money back to that friend. If that works, then congratulations you have achieved what you want. Pay the friend in SGD and get RMB from the friend.
4) If not working, sorry the loophole does not work.

Yes, I confirm the above work for me, not sure if it is a loophole or they allow now. Maybe I should ask my friend to transfer more to me before it got stop again, haha
 

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Yes, I confirm the above work for me, not sure if it is a loophole or they allow now. Maybe I should ask my friend to transfer more to me before it got stop again, haha

Great!

Yes maybe this is a new development and not a loophole. That will be good.

Tour Pass is good for short term visit but the balance is really more convenient. It should be usable for Taobao too. Have you tried that?

The main question now is the transaction limit of Alipay balance.

Class 1 with no ID verification: RMB1000 total whole life

Class 2 with ID verification: RMB100k per year

Class 3 with multiple ID verification: RMB200k per year.

Supposed a China bank card is required for Class 2 account type. So the method here is better than Class 1 requirements but less than Class 2 requirements.

https://cshall.alipay.com/lab/help_detail.htm?help_id=201602047829

余额支付额度相关了解
1. 非银行支付机构网络支付业务管理办法
中国人民银行颁布的《非银行支付机构网络支付业务管理办法》将于7月1日起正式实施。根据办法的要求,支付账户将严格实行实名,并按照三类支付宝账户进行分级管理。如果用户的身份验证情况未达到办法所规定的标准,将影响支付宝账户部分功能的使用。账户的身份信息完善程度不同,通过余额进行付款的额度也会有所不同

2. 余额支付额度是什么意思
余额支付额度是指从您的账户余额中消费或者转出的限额。根据监管部门的要求,不同的账户身份信息完善程度将对应提供不同的余额支付额度。一类账户为余额支付额度1000元/终身、二类账户为余额支付额度10万/年、三类账户为余额支付额度20万/年(最高)。


3.如何完善身份信息
在使用余额支付的过程中如果提示超限根据页面提示完善信息升级

4.余额支付额度超限了怎么办?
余额支付提示额度超限时,您可根据页面提示进行操作完善来提升额度。若您的余额支付额度已为 20万/年,将无法继续提升额度,您可以使用其他付款方式进行支付(银行卡快捷支付,网银,蚂蚁花呗等)。

温馨提示:
余额支付额度同时也会与您支付的交易有关,具体请您以收银台页面提示为准。

5.未完善身份信息会有什么影响?
根据监管部门的要求,支付账户需要完成实名,当前账户的身份信息未完善,因此会影响您的余额资金暂不可用,但不影响您使用银行卡方式进行支付。

6.余额支付额度怎么计算?
用余额支付,进行转账、消费、购买投资理财等金融类产品共享该额度,提现不受该额度限制(I类额度除外)通过银行卡快捷支付、网银、蚂蚁花呗等其他付款方式进行转账、消费、理财并不受到该额度限制。
以上内容是否解决了您的问题呢?
 
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Great!

Yes maybe this is a new development and not a loophole. That will be good.

Tour Pass is good for short term visit but the balance is really more convenient. It should be usable for Taobao too. Have you tried that?

The main question now is the transaction limit of Alipay balance.

Class 1 with no ID verification: RMB1000 total whole life

Class 2 with ID verification: RMB100k per year

Class 3 with multiple ID verification: RMB200k per year.

Supposed a China bank card is required for Class 2 account type. So the method here is better than Class 1 requirements but less than Class 2 requirements.

https://cshall.alipay.com/lab/help_detail.htm?help_id=201602047829

余额支付额度相关了解
1. 非银行支付机构网络支付业务管理办法
中国人民银行颁布的《非银行支付机构网络支付业务管理办法》将于7月1日起正式实施。根据办法的要求,支付账户将严格实行实名,并按照三类支付宝账户进行分级管理。如果用户的身份验证情况未达到办法所规定的标准,将影响支付宝账户部分功能的使用。账户的身份信息完善程度不同,通过余额进行付款的额度也会有所不同

2. 余额支付额度是什么意思
余额支付额度是指从您的账户余额中消费或者转出的限额。根据监管部门的要求,不同的账户身份信息完善程度将对应提供不同的余额支付额度。一类账户为余额支付额度1000元/终身、二类账户为余额支付额度10万/年、三类账户为余额支付额度20万/年(最高)。


3.如何完善身份信息
在使用余额支付的过程中如果提示超限根据页面提示完善信息升级

4.余额支付额度超限了怎么办?
余额支付提示额度超限时,您可根据页面提示进行操作完善来提升额度。若您的余额支付额度已为 20万/年,将无法继续提升额度,您可以使用其他付款方式进行支付(银行卡快捷支付,网银,蚂蚁花呗等)。

温馨提示:
余额支付额度同时也会与您支付的交易有关,具体请您以收银台页面提示为准。

5.未完善身份信息会有什么影响?
根据监管部门的要求,支付账户需要完成实名,当前账户的身份信息未完善,因此会影响您的余额资金暂不可用,但不影响您使用银行卡方式进行支付。

6.余额支付额度怎么计算?
用余额支付,进行转账、消费、购买投资理财等金融类产品共享该额度,提现不受该额度限制(I类额度除外)通过银行卡快捷支付、网银、蚂蚁花呗等其他付款方式进行转账、消费、理财并不受到该额度限制。
以上内容是否解决了您的问题呢?

Don't know what the transfer limit, but know is more than $1000RMB, just did it, haha.
 

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The transfer rate for the Visa is super low, the exchange rate is 4.99, the market rate is 5.15, so ask friend to transfer is better.
 
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