Asus WiFi 7 and WiFi 6E routers

[xiaofan]

Thanks for the information, how about BT10 vs BQ16 on 5G?

2x BQ16 should be quite a bit better than 2 x BT10. But then the cost is much higher. Basically they are different class of product.

I tend to believe 5GHz-2 may not be able to serve wireless client with 2x2 160MHz in Singapore, but I tend to believe it will work as dedicated wireless backhaul at 4x4 160MHz 5764Mbps (needs to be confirmed). If that is the case, this will free the 6GHz band to serve fast 2x2 WiFi 7 320MHz client.

https://www.asus.com/sg/networking-...wifi-wifi-systems/asus-zenwifi-bq16/techspec/
WiFi 7 (802.11be) (4x4 2.4GHz): up to 1376 Mbps
WiFi 7 (802.11be) (4x4 5GHz-1): up to 5764 Mbps
WiFi 7 (802.11be) (4x4 5GHz-2): up to 5764 Mbps
WiFi 7 (802.11be) (4x4 6GHz): up to 11529 Mbps

 

[xiaofan]

No so sure if any one has tried different wireless band/MLO for newer FW version of Asus ROG GT-BE98 and ZenWiFi BQ16 single node (not AIMesh), with Qualcomm QCNCM865 (FastConnect 7800) WiFi 7 client (PC/laptop with Windows 11 24H2 or flagship Android Phone).

Intel BE200 based WiFi 7 client may not have good MLO support as of now.

Mediatek MT7927 based WiFi 7 client is rare and may not have good MLO support as of now.

6GHz band, 2x2 BE 320MHz (EHT320) --> this may still be the fastest
5GHz+6GHz MLO --> this may be faster than 5GHz band ??
5GHz-1 + 5GHz-2 MLO --> does this even work? If it works, it may be pretty fast as well with EHT240.
5GHz-1 band, 2x2 BE 160MHz (EHT160)
5GHz-2 band, 2x2 BE 160MHz (EHT160) --> does this even work in Singapore? Or it only works with 2x2 BE 80MHz (EHT80).

 

[keith]

No so sure if any one has tried different wireless band/MLO for newer FW version of Asus ROG GT-BE98 and ZenWiFi BQ16 single node (not AIMesh), with Qualcomm QCNCM865 (FastConnect 7800) WiFi 7 client (PC/laptop with Windows 11 24H2 or flagship Android Phone).

Intel BE200 based WiFi 7 client may not have good MLO support as of now.

Mediatek MT7927 based WiFi 7 client is rare and may not have good MLO support as of now.

6GHz band, 2x2 BE 320MHz (EHT320) --> this may still be the fastest
5GHz+6GHz MLO --> this may be faster than 5GHz band ??
5GHz-1 + 5GHz-2 MLO --> does this even work? If it works, it may be pretty fast as well with EHT240.
5GHz-1 band, 2x2 BE 160MHz (EHT160)
5GHz-2 band, 2x2 BE 160MHz (EHT160) --> does this even work in Singapore? Or it only works with 2x2 BE 80MHz (EHT80).

i hv tried using BE-98 vs S24U. turning OFF MLO gives me better results.
i.e. deificated WiFi7 speeds arnd 2.4K UL/DL 3m away from router.

 

[xiaofan]

i hv tried using BE-98 vs S24U. turning OFF MLO gives me better results.
i.e. deificated WiFi7 speeds arnd 2.4K UL/DL 3m away from router.

That is already known.

I am more interested in the unknowns.

1) 5GHz+6GHz MLO --> this may be faster than 5GHz band ??
2) 5GHz-1 + 5GHz-2 MLO --> does this even work? If it works, it may be pretty fast as well with EHT240.
3) 5GHz-2 band, 2x2 BE 160MHz (EHT160) --> does this even work in Singapore? Or it only works with 2x2 BE 80MHz (EHT80).

 

[keith]

That is already known.

I am more interested in the unknowns.

1) 5GHz+6GHz MLO --> this may be faster than 5GHz band ??
2) 5GHz-1 + 5GHz-2 MLO --> does this even work? If it works, it may be pretty fast as well with EHT240.
3) 5GHz-2 band, 2x2 BE 160MHz (EHT160) --> does this even work in Singapore? Or it only works with 2x2 BE 80MHz (EHT80).

1) 5GHz+6GHz MLO --> this may be faster than 5GHz band ?? >> NO, slower than a single 6Hz at near.
2) + 3) --> not tested as using single 5GHz ch only.

 

[xiaofan]

1) 5GHz+6GHz MLO --> this may be faster than 5GHz band ?? >> NO, slower than a single 6Hz at near.
2) + 3) --> not tested as using single 5GHz ch only.

I am asking whether 5GHz+6GHz MLO is faster then 5GHz-1 band (or 5GHz-2 band), not 6GHz band. We all know 5GHz+6GHz MLO is slower than 6GHz band as of now.

 

[Thunderlip]

I replaced XT-8 (black) with BQ16 at our office. Quite a difference in size.

 

[donetus]

i just got the Asus RT-Be92U .. i was wondering if there's a specific settings on the router to improve the wifi 6Ghz connection? It's weird that when I shift to 5Ghz, my laptop's full bar and tops at 900+ downstream/upstream.

If I shift over to a 6Ghz connection, my laptop can only get like 2 bars of wifi signal. The tops that I can get is around 500-600 downstream/upstream.

The router is just position beside the TV which is probablyt 5 feet away from where the laptop is.

 

[Skypower]

6Ghz (Higher frequency than 5Ghz) is shorter range (shorter distance coverage compared to 5Ghz), hence you experience slower speed. To obtain higher speed @ 6Ghz WIFI connection, you need move your Wifi device closer to the router.

 

[donetus]

6Ghz (Higher frequency than 5Ghz) is shorter range (shorter distance coverage compared to 5Ghz), hence you experience slower speed. To obtain higher speed @ 6Ghz WIFI connection, you need move your Wifi device closer to the router.

yeah that i know .. just weird that I can see the diff between TPLink and Asus when they are at the same location. I doubt that i have to place the laptop literally beside the router.

even my mobile phone can get more downstream/upstream on the 6Ghz on my TP-Link compared to the Asus router. Just wondering where the config issue is.

 

[phayze]

i just got the Asus RT-Be92U .. i was wondering if there's a specific settings on the router to improve the wifi 6Ghz connection? It's weird that when I shift to 5Ghz, my laptop's full bar and tops at 900+ downstream/upstream.

If I shift over to a 6Ghz connection, my laptop can only get like 2 bars of wifi signal. The tops that I can get is around 500-600 downstream/upstream.

The router is just position beside the TV which is probablyt 5 feet away from where the laptop is.

If all devices on 6Ghz had significantly shorter range, there maybe a problem on the router itself. I encounter asus pcie wifi card no issue with 2.4Ghz but 5Ghz is very weak and unable to connect. Other 5Ghz devices able receive full bar at the same location.

 

[Soya_Bean]

What are the best practices for switching internet providers and routers?

I recently switched to MyRepublic and started using the Asus GT-BE25000 router. I configured the following settings to match those on my previous router, the Asus AX86U (from Whizcomms):

• SSID
• Password
• Authentication method: WPA2/WPA3-Personal

However, the wired connection keeps dropping, and I’m seeing an error message.


How can I resolve this issue?

 

[jheff21]

If all devices on 6Ghz had significantly shorter range, there maybe a problem on the router itself. I encounter asus pcie wifi card no issue with 2.4Ghz but 5Ghz is very weak and unable to connect. Other 5Ghz devices able receive full bar at the same location.

Im not sure whether antennae plays a role. Be92u is 2x2 whereas bq16 is 4x4. Also i had the chance to use be92u, in my honest opinion, felt like the firmware at that time of my testing (nov2024) was buggy. I experienced the full load in one of the cpu bug. And the speedtest seems inconsistent. So hopefully future updates could fix your issues.

 

[Skypower]

i understand you are comparing btw TPLink and Asus,

For fair comparison during testing:
- do make sure both router (ensure powering on one at a time) is configured to same channel, same bandwidth (fixed at 160Mhz).
- do make sure both router's WAN connected to ONT are of same speed (using same physical network cable)
- ensure only one device (for testing) is connected to the router at same WIFI speed (eg. 2882Mbps etc), do wait a min or 3 mins after connecting (initial connection is usually lowest speed and its slowly up the speed.

Things beyond control during testing:
- Actual speed provided by ISP is dynamic and its fluctuate

 

[donetus]

i understand you are comparing btw TPLink and Asus,

For fair comparison during testing:
- do make sure both router (ensure powering on one at a time) is configured to same channel, same bandwidth (fixed at 160Mhz).
- do make sure both router's WAN connected to ONT are of same speed (using same physical network cable)
- ensure only one device (for testing) is connected to the router at same WIFI speed (eg. 2882Mbps etc), do wait a min or 3 mins after connecting (initial connection is usually lowest speed and its slowly up the speed.

Things beyond control during testing:
- Actual speed provided by ISP is dynamic and its fluctuate

yup .. so basically TP-Link is giving out more "speed" that Asus so I was thinking whether I just stick with TP-Link (but getting random 6Ghz disconnection) or just stick with Asus .. Been an Asus user for a few users now and this is the first time that I'm using TP-Link that was provided by MR.

 

[xiaofan]

What are the best practices for switching internet providers and routers?

I recently switched to MyRepublic and started using the Asus GT-BE25000 router. I configured the following settings to match those on my previous router, the Asus AX86U (from Whizcomms):

• SSID
• Password
• Authentication method: WPA2/WPA3-Personal

However, the wired connection keeps dropping, and I’m seeing an error message.


How can I resolve this issue?

Contact MR for help. It could be the ONT probelm or even Fibre cable problem.

There is a report from Stathub thread that the Fibre cable is the problem. Previous reports say the Nokia XS-240X-A (main Starhub) or Nokia XS-250X-A (mainly MR) ONT may have quality issue. But later reports say that the Fibre cable which comes with the ONT may be the issue.

 

[xiaofan]

i just got the Asus RT-Be92U .. i was wondering if there's a specific settings on the router to improve the wifi 6Ghz connection? It's weird that when I shift to 5Ghz, my laptop's full bar and tops at 900+ downstream/upstream.

If I shift over to a 6Ghz connection, my laptop can only get like 2 bars of wifi signal. The tops that I can get is around 500-600 downstream/upstream.

The router is just position beside the TV which is probablyt 5 feet away from where the laptop is.

Personally I do not recommend RT-BE92U due to the use of lower end CPU and 2x2 WiFi. But you may want to wait for new FW updates to see if you see improvement.

6GHz is supposed to have less penetration power, but it should not be so bad at 5 feet (1.5m).

 

[DaBaiCai]

hi @xiaofan

I am currently using AX88U as main and AX3000 and AI mesh node (non-ethernet). any recommendations to upgrade to WiFi 7 if i were to sub to Starhub 5Gbps? max budget is less than $500.

 

[xiaofan]

hi @xiaofan

I am currently using AX88U as main and AX3000 and AI mesh node (non-ethernet). any recommendations to upgrade to WiFi 7 if i were to sub to Starhub 5Gbps? max budget is less than $500.

Yes you can get RT-BE88U China version if you are okay with no local warranty. If you do not have 10G wired device, then RT-BE86U can also be considered. China version is much cheaper than local version and they HW/FW are basically the same.
https://www.asus.com.cn/store/gallery-476.html

RT-BE88U dual band BE7200 --> RMB 2049 (one 10G RJ45 port, one 10G SFP+ port, quad 2.5G ports, quad 1G ports, fast Broadcom BCM4916 CPU, 2GB RAM)
RT-BE86U dual band BE6800 --> RMB 1749 (one 10G RJ45 port, one 10G SFP+ port, quad 2.5G ports, quad 1G ports, fast Broadcom BCM4916 CPU, 1GB RAM)
TUF-BE6500 dual band BE6500 (quad 2.5G ports, mid-range Qualcomm IPQ5322 CPU, 1GB RAM) --> RMB 799. This is a good option if you want to have low cost even though you can not fully utilize 5Gbps bandwidth.

 

[donetus]

Personally I do not recommend RT-BE92U due to the use of lower end CPU and 2x2 WiFi. But you may want to wait for new FW updates to see if you see improvement.

6GHz is supposed to have less penetration power, but it should not be so bad at 5 feet (1.5m).

haha .. got not much of a choice at the moment and the BE92U is the best option that I have so I'm trying my best to make it work.