China content lover, lip lai

[seowbin]

If they go via ntt, when congested... Really congested. Lol

 

[MRC]

Overall seem like MR routing to China is the best so far.

 

[xiaofan]

For Taobao, it seems to me that many of its sites are through CDN but "s.taobao.com" may not be. That was a problematic site for VQ users last time, not so sure about M1.

PS C:\work\speedtest> ping -4 www.taobao.com

Pinging www.taobao.com.danuoyi.tbcache.com [163.181.199.199] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 163.181.199.199: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=55
Reply from 163.181.199.199: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=55
Reply from 163.181.199.199: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=55
Reply from 163.181.199.199: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 163.181.199.199:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 3ms, Maximum = 7ms, Average = 5ms

PS C:\work\speedtest> ping -4 world.taobao.com

Pinging world.taobao.com.danuoyi.tbcache.com [163.181.199.199] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 163.181.199.199: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=55
Reply from 163.181.199.199: bytes=32 time=6ms TTL=55
Reply from 163.181.199.199: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=55
Reply from 163.181.199.199: bytes=32 time=3ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 163.181.199.199:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 3ms, Maximum = 7ms, Average = 4ms

PS C:\work\speedtest> ping -4 s.taobao.com

Pinging v6-sh-sz-zb.wagbridge.alibaba.taobao.com.gds.alibabadns.com [59.82.122.127] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 59.82.122.127: bytes=32 time=97ms TTL=82
Reply from 59.82.122.127: bytes=32 time=97ms TTL=82
Reply from 59.82.122.127: bytes=32 time=97ms TTL=82
Reply from 59.82.122.127: bytes=32 time=96ms TTL=82

Ping statistics for 59.82.122.127:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 96ms, Maximum = 97ms, Average = 96ms

 

[xiaofan]

From the VQ thread: post on 29 June 2024
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...-thread-part-6.6473287/page-66#post-152900416

Just some information tested use speedtest.net for people who visit China websites often:
VQ connection to China Mobile networks(中国移动）very good, can reach 400Mbps

VQ connection to China Unicom（中国联通） is poor, can only reach about 10Mbps

VQ is technically insulated with ChinaTelecom network(中国电信）， the download speed will be <1Mbps and upload test will fail, so no result here.

 

[xiaofan]

SIngtel 1Gbps test results -- lazy so use wireless (not the real bottleneck anyway), Singtel 1Gbps plan, ONT + Asus RT-AX86U router, Acer Windows 11 laptop with Intel AX201 WiFi 6 adapter, 4m away.

Using Chrome browswer to carry out the test as it will not be the bottleneck.

1) China Mobile Zhejiang (Hangzhou) -- pretty good result in terms of both speed and latency.

2) China Unicom Jiangshu (Wuxi) -- pretty good result in terms of both speed and latency.

3) China Telecom Jiangshu (Shuzhou) -- pretty bad results in terms of both speed and latency.

 

[xiaofan]

I tend to believe none of the consumer ISPs here have good connection to China Telecom for consumer Fibre broadband plans. That is probabaly because China Telecom charges high for IPLC and IEPL.
https://www.chinatelecomglobal.com/expertises/productservices/2456/2478
https://www.chinatelecomglobal.com/sc/expertises/productservices/2456/2479

China Mobile and China Unicom have similar services as well.

 

[Mach3.2]

I tend to believe none of the consumer ISPs here have good connection to China Telecom for consumer Fibre broadband plans. That is probabaly because China Telecom charges high for IPLC and IEPL.
https://www.chinatelecomglobal.com/expertises/productservices/2456/2478
https://www.chinatelecomglobal.com/sc/expertises/productservices/2456/2479

China Mobile and China Unicom have similar services as well.

not sexpert but i think those are the wrong products.

you're looking for paid peering or ip transit, and the cost for those services are usually hidden under an NDA.

 

[seowbin]

moi network, using wifi now at home also
not the fastest

 

[CoolRock]

Most above should be cdn accerated

Intro you all some other sites without cdn but I bo buy before also . Just wanna see how fast the internet to china is

https://3e3e.cn
https://www.yunchepin.cn

100ms for 3e3e
80ms for yunchepin

How about games from China? The Chinese version of FFXIV is here: 162.14.144.1

Getting about 100ms on MR recently, used to be 70ms

it's 300ms for me, fwah!

 

[xiaofan]

not sexpert but i think those are the wrong products.

you're looking for paid peering or ip transit, and the cost for those services are usually hidden under an NDA.

You may well be right. I use the word "believe" but I may well be wrong...

I think I read too much about China Telecom IPLC last time because of the interests for the solutions to bypass China GFW back in 2018/2019.

 

[xiaofan]

moi network, using wifi now at home also
not the fastest

Not bad already.

Is this the China Telecom Jiangshu SpeedTest server (Suzhou)? If yes, then I think yours is the fastest already.

Axclusive is your company (ASN 132337)?
https://www.peeringdb.com/net/24664

 

[xiaofan]

How about games from China? The Chinese version of FFXIV is here: 162.14.144.1

Getting about 100ms on MR recently, used to be 70ms

it's 300ms for me, fwah!

MR is so good.

Singtel is quite bad. Tested with different IP segment but both are bad.

PS C:\work\speedtest> ping  162.14.144.1

Pinging 162.14.144.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 162.14.144.1: bytes=32 time=348ms TTL=227
Reply from 162.14.144.1: bytes=32 time=434ms TTL=227
Reply from 162.14.144.1: bytes=32 time=407ms TTL=227
Reply from 162.14.144.1: bytes=32 time=403ms TTL=227

Ping statistics for 162.14.144.1:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 348ms, Maximum = 434ms, Average = 398ms

PS C:\work\speedtest> ping  162.14.144.1

Pinging 162.14.144.1 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 162.14.144.1: bytes=32 time=344ms TTL=232
Reply from 162.14.144.1: bytes=32 time=381ms TTL=232
Reply from 162.14.144.1: bytes=32 time=345ms TTL=232
Reply from 162.14.144.1: bytes=32 time=404ms TTL=232

Ping statistics for 162.14.144.1:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 344ms, Maximum = 404ms, Average = 368ms

 

[seowbin]

Not bad already.

Is this the China Telecom Jiangshu SpeedTest server (Suzhou)? If yes, then I think yours is the fastest already.

Axclusive is your company (ASN 132337)?
https://www.peeringdb.com/net/24664

for moi to surf china content fast fast

 

[CoolRock]

for moi to surf china content fast fast

can I colocation an exit node there?

 

[seowbin]

can I colocation an exit node there?

$$$$

 

[seowbin]

tested from moi dc.

China Telecom Jiangshu (Shuzhou)

China Unicom Jiangshu (Wuxi)

China Mobile cannot complete the test
2 to 3+g download but keep failing.

 

[xiaofan]

AS9506 Singtel 5Gbps plan (ONR + OpenWRT double NAT), Singtel IPv4 plus 6rd IPv6

Good results to 3e3e.cn and www.yunchepin.cn.
Very bad result to Chinese version of FFXIV server 162.14.144.1.

root@OpenWrt:~# ping -c 6 3e3e.cn
PING 1b918b4f.3e3e.cn.cname.yunduncdn.com (123.129.226.31) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 123.129.226.31 (123.129.226.31): icmp_seq=1 ttl=45 time=73.4 ms
64 bytes from 123.129.226.31 (123.129.226.31): icmp_seq=2 ttl=45 time=81.6 ms
64 bytes from 123.129.226.31 (123.129.226.31): icmp_seq=3 ttl=45 time=99.7 ms
64 bytes from 123.129.226.31 (123.129.226.31): icmp_seq=4 ttl=45 time=90.8 ms
64 bytes from 123.129.226.31 (123.129.226.31): icmp_seq=5 ttl=45 time=73.3 ms
64 bytes from 123.129.226.31: icmp_seq=6 ttl=45 time=73.5 ms

--- 1b918b4f.3e3e.cn.cname.yunduncdn.com ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 16898ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 73.254/82.044/99.697/10.103 ms

root@OpenWrt:~# ping -c 6 www.yunchepin.cn
PING www.yunchepin.cn (120.55.81.189) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 120.55.81.189 (120.55.81.189): icmp_seq=1 ttl=46 time=71.1 ms
64 bytes from 120.55.81.189 (120.55.81.189): icmp_seq=2 ttl=46 time=71.0 ms
64 bytes from 120.55.81.189 (120.55.81.189): icmp_seq=3 ttl=46 time=71.0 ms
64 bytes from 120.55.81.189 (120.55.81.189): icmp_seq=4 ttl=46 time=70.9 ms
64 bytes from 120.55.81.189 (120.55.81.189): icmp_seq=5 ttl=46 time=70.9 ms
64 bytes from 120.55.81.189 (120.55.81.189): icmp_seq=6 ttl=46 time=71.0 ms

--- www.yunchepin.cn ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 5000ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 70.855/70.958/71.103/0.077 ms

root@OpenWrt:~# ping -c 6 162.14.144.1
PING 162.14.144.1 (162.14.144.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 162.14.144.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=231 time=420 ms
64 bytes from 162.14.144.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=231 time=421 ms
64 bytes from 162.14.144.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=231 time=423 ms
64 bytes from 162.14.144.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=231 time=354 ms

--- 162.14.144.1 ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 4 received, 33.3333% packet loss, time 5078ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 354.496/404.624/422.960/28.958 ms

 

[xiaofan]

M1 is known to be bad to China, but is it so bad?

From MR thread.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/myrepublic-fibre-part-5.4981088/page-364

Hello just like to check with the existing customer for MR. Is the connection to China for the gamer subscription is still very good? If possible can do the tracert for the following below. I went down to their official shop but there issnt any computer for me to check it out. Thank alot.

tracert 1688.com
tracert alipay.com
tracert taobao.com

Forget to mention I am using M1 now and the ping is easily over 400ms, just now reached 600+ ms. Hear MR is the best for China connection but not sure if its still good now and is it stable. Thank you.

MR is better than M1 but not good enough for gaming in China server.
Also gamer plan is $5 more expensive but it's only marginally better. I used uu booster or mudfish for FF14CN before, both performs very well and much better than direct connect.

	MR (1G non gamer)	M1 (1G)
1688.com	261ms (50% loss)	384ms (0% loss)
alipay.com	312ms (75% loss)	395ms (75% loss)
taobao.com	258ms (0% loss)	393ms (25% loss)

Singtel is much better than the above M1 and MR results.

root@OpenWrt:~# ping -c 6 1688.com
PING 1688.com (140.205.174.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 140.205.174.2 (140.205.174.2): icmp_seq=1 ttl=84 time=67.4 ms
64 bytes from 140.205.174.2 (140.205.174.2): icmp_seq=2 ttl=84 time=67.3 ms
64 bytes from 140.205.174.2 (140.205.174.2): icmp_seq=3 ttl=84 time=67.0 ms
64 bytes from 140.205.174.2 (140.205.174.2): icmp_seq=4 ttl=84 time=67.2 ms
64 bytes from 140.205.174.2 (140.205.174.2): icmp_seq=5 ttl=84 time=67.3 ms
64 bytes from 140.205.174.2 (140.205.174.2): icmp_seq=6 ttl=84 time=67.1 ms

--- 1688.com ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 5000ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 67.028/67.230/67.404/0.131 ms

root@OpenWrt:~# ping -4 -c 6 taobao.com
PING taobao.com (59.82.43.239) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 59.82.43.239 (59.82.43.239): icmp_seq=1 ttl=83 time=69.0 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.43.239 (59.82.43.239): icmp_seq=2 ttl=83 time=69.0 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.43.239 (59.82.43.239): icmp_seq=3 ttl=83 time=68.9 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.43.239 (59.82.43.239): icmp_seq=4 ttl=83 time=68.9 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.43.239 (59.82.43.239): icmp_seq=5 ttl=83 time=68.8 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.43.239 (59.82.43.239): icmp_seq=6 ttl=83 time=68.8 ms

--- taobao.com ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 5000ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 68.785/68.917/69.029/0.086 ms

root@OpenWrt:~# ping -4 -c 6 s.taobao.com
PING v6-sh-sz-zb.wagbridge.alibaba.taobao.com.gds.alibabadns.com (59.82.122.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 59.82.122.8 (59.82.122.8): icmp_seq=1 ttl=82 time=92.0 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.122.8 (59.82.122.8): icmp_seq=2 ttl=82 time=91.7 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.122.8 (59.82.122.8): icmp_seq=3 ttl=82 time=92.0 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.122.8 (59.82.122.8): icmp_seq=4 ttl=82 time=91.8 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.122.8 (59.82.122.8): icmp_seq=5 ttl=82 time=92.1 ms
64 bytes from 59.82.122.8 (59.82.122.8): icmp_seq=6 ttl=82 time=91.9 ms

--- v6-sh-sz-zb.wagbridge.alibaba.taobao.com.gds.alibabadns.com ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 5005ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 91.715/91.919/92.100/0.137 ms

root@OpenWrt:~# ping -4 -c 6 alipay.com
PING alipay.com (110.75.130.45) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 110.75.130.45 (110.75.130.45): icmp_seq=1 ttl=83 time=75.8 ms
64 bytes from 110.75.130.45 (110.75.130.45): icmp_seq=2 ttl=83 time=75.7 ms
64 bytes from 110.75.130.45 (110.75.130.45): icmp_seq=3 ttl=83 time=75.7 ms
64 bytes from 110.75.130.45 (110.75.130.45): icmp_seq=4 ttl=83 time=75.8 ms
64 bytes from 110.75.130.45 (110.75.130.45): icmp_seq=5 ttl=83 time=75.6 ms
64 bytes from 110.75.130.45 (110.75.130.45): icmp_seq=6 ttl=83 time=75.5 ms

--- alipay.com ping statistics ---
6 packets transmitted, 6 received, 0% packet loss, time 7089ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 75.523/75.694/75.847/0.101 ms

 

[WatCult]

Any new results for Simba connection to China?

 

[xiaofan]

Many of the OOkla SpeedTest in China are down.

Here are some working ones -- I got the list by using AJS VPN to China.
https://www.speedtest.net/api/js/servers

From AJS server lists ping values, I also know that Singtel has decent connection to China Mobile and China Unicom, but bad connections to China Telecom.

PS C:\work\networking\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -L
Closest servers:

    ID  Name                           Location             Country
==============================================================================
 26352  China Telecom JiangSu 5G       Nanjing              China
 36663  China Telecom JiangSu 5G       Zhenjiang            China
 45170  China Unicom                   Wu Xi                China
  5396  China Telecom JiangSu 5G       Suzhou               China
 59386  浙江电信                        HangZhou             China
 63018  Wasu                           Hangzhou             China
  3633  China Telecom                  Shanghai             China
 24447  China Unicom 5G                Shanghai             China
 59387  浙江电信                        NingBo               China
 64638  China Unicom                   Mianyang             China
 64314  ChinaUnicom Sichuan            Chengdu              China