[CONSOLIDATED] Air India plane crashes at India's Ahmedabad airport

[jgrader]

Iirc, there was a news article on SQ taking in 100 pilots from Air India for their budget airline?

Congratulations

 

[Zinna]

Do you need to be in the cockpit and physically turn it off? Nobody can remotely program it to turn off right?
Pilots trained from where?

 

[AKK]

Analysis of the preliminary report

 

[xiao.xin]

The pilot make the mistake and decided to lie at that point of time when asked by the other pilot, their culture.

If the pilot admit his mistake on this spot, the error can be corrected.

I make the same comment. For all you know it could be the one asking the question the one that switched it off.

Heng I sold off all my SIA position on the high last week. Anything that gets involved in south asia need to siam far far.

 

[imtiredboss]

engine 1 & 2 simultaneously shut off one after the other.

OK but how can the engines be both simultaneously shut off and also be shut off one after the other?

 

[Chalkycliffs]

Tech support people always tell others to "restart" the system.

 

[mastermember]

Good luck to SIA and SG

 

[tmkedmw]

This pilot youtuber made a very good guess long before news broke. He speculated that one engine malfunctioned and a pilot accidently cutoff fuel to the good engine.

That's different.

The 2 engines were cutoff 1 second apart, by moving the fuel switch from Run to Cutoff.

 

[Avant-Garde]

OK but how can the engines be both simultaneously shut off and also be shut off one after the other?

well, pardon my poor english.

it was 1 second apart, so i guess 'almost' simultaneously seems more appropriate.

 

[tmkedmw]

The pilot make the mistake and decided to lie at that point of time when asked by the other pilot, their culture.

If the pilot admit his mistake on this spot, the error can be corrected.

Cutoff fuel at that low altitude is gone case liao... cos there is not enough time for the engines to restart and generate thrust needed to avoid crashing to ground.

 

[audiovideo]

boh dai boh zee talk sia for what?

 

[Visor9999]

Iirc, there was a news article on SQ taking in 100 pilots from Air India for their budget airline?

This is the future reality for SIA

 

[xiao.xin]

well, pardon my poor english.

it was 1 second apart, so i guess 'almost' simultaneously seems more appropriate.

Means is something like reflex when they cut the engine. Cutting off both together at the same time. I assume there's fail safe mechanism whereby need to do 1 at a time therefore having the slight delay

 

[audiovideo]

high time to redesign to stop pilot from itchy hand, just like the system lock the front wheels when speeding down runway

 

[fortunecat]

Hopefully that's really the cause. At least we know the plane never bo dai bo ji lose thrust during take off

 

[trento]

Think can only guess, no way to know unless the pilots specifically said it out at that time

I read the article. It say pilot 1 told 2 why cut off. 2 deny.

 

[trento]

Saw this video saying both were in the off position. This rules out accidentally cut off wrong one

Means auto off?

 

[Mystyque]

Hypothetical scenario of what the youtuber meant

Engine 1 spoil.
Pilot wanted to cut fuel to engine 1.
Screwed up and cut fuel to engine 2 instead.

If there was any event that could require action such as cutting off fuel, the preliminary report would had mentioned it.

Also the most common reason to cut fuel is because engine caught fire or leaking fuel. Neither are applicable.

 

[Mystyque]

Means is something like reflex when they cut the engine. Cutting off both together at the same time. I assume there's fail safe mechanism whereby need to do 1 at a time therefore having the slight delay

There’s no such fail safe. The 1 second gap is simply the time it takes to move hand to the other fuel cut detent switch, pull it up and flip it down.

 

[ewng]

What’s the reason that he cut off the fuel is impt.

Maybe they thought it's the landing gear button...