Do surge protectors actually lengthen the lifespan of electronics?

[gnoes85]

Need to understand the reason why the current spike. Mostly bcos of old electrical wiring.

 

[Langrisser999]

Woah caught fire

Oh this is the 600 joules one. Gemini says 2000 joules and above for more expensive stuff. Belkin used to have belkin gold at 2700 joules but now no longer avail in sg

Oh no I didn't know got joules thing leh. I get this cheap one from shopee for all my things except my refrigerator. Last Friday my block got power trip at night lor, dun know does it help to prevent my things from spoil???

https://shopee.sg/SUM-3-Way-Multi-A...05?xptdk=570d9ff0-85f4-4587-b192-aee2f3496e1a

 

[Apparatus]

Gemini suggests using surge protectors with 2,000 joules and above for costly PCs and TVs to lengthen its lifespan. I currently have those.

I get that surge protection is only one variable but does it actually work and to what extent?

Do u use surge protectors?

Surge protectors have 3 types.........Type 1, Type 2 and Type 3. They prevent voltage surges from damaging your home equipment

I talked of it long time back, here

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...surge-protector.6688280/page-2#post-156804230

 

[buttbERry]

i feel is a yes

 

[occifer]

BS.

any url link or references? I wonder.

all the while I thought it's only useful for surges.. is that not the case? unless your area tends to get those lightning strikes not sure how it helps. maybe can enlighten.

I would think that its the same across sg.

Gemini says:


That is an excellent, discerning question. If you could eliminate the possibility of lightning entirely, surge protectors would still be highly useful and necessary to extend the lifespan of your electronics.

The primary value of a surge protector, outside of catastrophic lightning strikes, lies in combating internal transients (small surges) which are constantly happening and cause long-term, cumulative damage.

Not that useful in Singapore context because most of us live in tall buildings which has their higher grade lightning arrestors. But do not educate Gemini...it will get smarter and replaces us faster.

Gemini says that it is useful even in high rise buildings hmm

It will kill us to replace us one

 

[occifer]

Apple products, like most commercial electronic equipment, are designed to comply with relevant electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) standards, which typically include the IEC 61000-4-5 standard for surge immunity. Compliance with this standard is often a mandatory requirement for selling electronic equipment in many countries, including the EU.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_61000-4-5

wut?

moi compewters setup have belkin and targus protectors

Do u think it extends lifespan?

IMHO.
I use surge protectors and i must remind myself to use them again.
Within the homes, there are appliances and devices that generate EMI especially those having motors.
So I am just protecting my sensitive ( often more expensive ) devices.
Let's say a gigantic LED TV costing thousands - a surge protector is a fraction of the cost.

I have experienced my power fan that can trigger my computer display to turn off and on - a surge protector solves it.

Same thoughts. It is a fraction of the equipment cost. So, better to use. Do u think the joules surge protection amount matter for these devices?

Gemini says

General Recommendation​

For any device in Singapore that you value, that stores data, or that is expensive to replace (like a computer or large TV), you should aim for a surge protector with a rating of 2,000 joules or more.

I am wondering how accurate this info is. Local market only has 900 joules. The 2000+ joules version are no longer available

If stay in HDB, less likely to be affected by current spike and lightning~

Nevertheless, I still use surge protectors for my son and my desktops~ it's not expensive also and the built quality are better than most power extensions~

My Belkin surge protector more than 15yrs~ recently bought Master Plug surge protector~

This version with over 2,000 joules is no longer available locally leh. Amazon.sg also dont have and amazon usa only have usa voltage sigh. It used to be avail.

 

[occifer]

Basically for lighting protection, there are 3 types. Type 1 to 3 with 1 being the device being able to withstand huge amount of energy from direct lighting strike which in most buildings or estates are equipped with lighting rods linked to ground, type 2 are usually equipped inside the switch room and of course lastly the indirect but low and fast energy from lighting ripples required Type 3 protection which in this case catered for domestic appliances.

You can buy those industrial grade Surge arrestors but installing them to your circuit breakers box is a huge challenge as they need to be connected in parallel with the Surge arrestors.

Woah this is overkill for me imo. I am just looking to protect certain expensive equipment with a strong surge protector that is a fraction of the cost. I am wondering how well does it work and if gemini is right that 2,000 joules and above is best. I am noob at this lol

The prob is i cant find 2,000 joules and above surge protector in sg anymore. Trying to find on overseas sites would be costly

 

[Apparatus]

Woah this is overkill for me imo. I am just looking to protect certain expensive equipment with a strong surge protector that is a fraction of the cost. I am wondering how well does it work and if gemini is right that 2,000 joules and above is best. I am noob at this lol

The prob is i cant find 2,000 joules and above surge protector in sg anymore. Trying to find on overseas sites would be costly

What you should do is to add a SPD (Type 2) to your Circuit Breaker box if you stay in a HDB flat. It protects the equipment in your whole house from incoming voltage surges. Here the electrician will recommend a 20KA one but I bought a 40KA instead

Read my post earlier. It provides a lot of valuable info

 

[keenklee]

Same thoughts. It is a fraction of the equipment cost. So, better to use. Do u think the joules surge protection amount matter for these devices?

Gemini says

General Recommendation​

For any device in Singapore that you value, that stores data, or that is expensive to replace (like a computer or large TV), you should aim for a surge protector with a rating of 2,000 joules or more.

I am wondering how accurate this info is. Local market only has 900 joules. The 2000+ joules version are no longer available

IMHO.
Just buy what if available. Can consider UPS also.

 

[ceecookie]

Surge protectors have 3 types.........Type 1, Type 2 and Type 3. They prevent voltage surges from damaging your home equipment

I talked of it long time back, here

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...surge-protector.6688280/page-2#post-156804230

Any lobang to get from stores? I googled type 3 one it bring me to industrial looking stores that seems for enterprise usage.

 

[Apparatus]

Any lobang to get from stores? I googled type 3 one it bring me to industrial looking stores that seems for enterprise usage.

https://www.se.com/sg/en/product-ca...ter=business-5-residential-and-small-business

https://www.electronicscrazy.sg/apc-ph12-apc-home-office-surgearrest-12-outlets-120v/

I think you better call Sneider Electric Singapore to see if they or they retailers are carrying the surge protected power extension strip. SL SQ also got sell if I'm not wrong

Belkin also have some

https://www.belkin.com/sg/products/surge-protectors-power-strips/

Here

https://sg.element14.com/c/electrical/power-outlet-strips-with-surge-protection

https://www.mouser.sg/c/circuit-protection/?features=Surge Protection

 

[occifer]

What you should do is to add a SPD (Type 2) to your Circuit Breaker box if you stay in a HDB flat. It protects the equipment in your whole house from incoming voltage surges. Here the electrician will recommend a 20KA one but I bought a 40KA instead

Read my post earlier. It provides a lot of valuable info

How much does that cost. i only want to protect tv and pc lol

 

[Apparatus]

How much does that cost. i only want to protect tv and pc lol

SPD (Type 2) is for whole house protection.

For specific TV/PC plesae use a Type 3 surge protection power extension strip. Links already posted in post #51. Call and ask them

Go and read my earlier link below

https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/...surge-protector.6688280/page-2#post-156804230

 

[keenklee]

How much does that cost. i only want to protect tv and pc lol

IMHO.
Eh... install your own grid. Will be safe.

 

[occifer]

IMHO.
Eh... install your own grid. Will be safe.

it is safe. i just wanna extend lifespan of products. thats all

 

[keenklee]

it is safe. i just wanna extend lifespan of products. thats all

IMHO.
New TV or old TV ?
Use UPS, clean stable supply.

 

[ceecookie]

https://www.se.com/sg/en/product-ca...ter=business-5-residential-and-small-business

https://www.electronicscrazy.sg/apc-ph12-apc-home-office-surgearrest-12-outlets-120v/

I think you better call Sneider Electric Singapore to see if they or they retailers are carrying the surge protected power extension strip. SL SQ also got sell if I'm not wrong

Belkin also have some

https://www.belkin.com/sg/products/surge-protectors-power-strips/

Here

https://sg.element14.com/c/electrical/power-outlet-strips-with-surge-protection

https://www.mouser.sg/c/circuit-protection/?features=Surge Protection

Thx now I understand liao. Type 3 is actually the common "surge protector" device that is marketed around. Basically is power strip with capability to protect against power spikes.

It is type 2 one install at Power distribution board that is very chim one. I definitely need to research more and hire a electrician to install one for me.

 

[occifer]

IMHO.
New TV or old TV ?
Use UPS, clean stable supply.

new or old tv will be an oled that costs $2k+
PC + monitor will cost 3k-4k. I have 2 belkin 2700 joules gold surge protector for both but now, i need 2 more for another room. ups seems overkill to me and ups uses electricity yes? My electricity is not interrupted.

what i want is to just deliver better electricity so my expensive products last longer. a good surge protector with the proper joules is enough imo. not keen on protecting the whole house lol

in the past i just whack belkin 2700 joule one for $60-70 but now only have 900 joule one on shopee hmm. I suppose i will check out those links later. gemini keeps emphasizing on getting 2000 joules and above

 

[Crazy Devil Chicken]

i thgt fuse in the main switch box / BB box and the 13 A plug can protect against surge current ? If got extension mean 2 X 13A Fuse switch ? No ?
Cos last time my house keep black out once lighting detected . only recently. we discover our main switch box is spoil. it been spoil for 10 years omg

 

[sunsetbay]

This version with over 2,000 joules is no longer available locally leh. Amazon.sg also dont have and amazon usa only have usa voltage sigh. It used to be avail.

the Belkin gold series surgemaster still listed in Belkin SG web, but not sure whether it's updated cos it's very old model like my one~

https://www.belkin.com/sg/products/surge-protectors-power-strips/

Anyway I will not just look at the energy absorption rating, I'll pay attention more to the equipments warranty that is covered in SG~

my Masterplug though only rated 370 joules energy absorption, it has S$2k equipments warranty, which is enough to cover the cost of my son PC~