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Anyone experience poor reception with Eight mobile while on Level 2 (Passport collection area) of new ICA building?
Was there yesterday and pages don't load until I connected to wireless@sgx.
Phone: IPhone 15 Pro Max
 

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Anyone experience poor reception with Eight mobile while on Level 2 (Passport collection area) of new ICA building?
Was there yesterday and pages don't load until I connected to wireless@sgx.
Phone: IPhone 15 Pro Max
Are you going there everyday? If not, then have to accept that coverage may not be good everywhere.
 

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Singtel doesn't have good coverage
Orh hor!!! Later stinktel POFMA you
IMDA! That will teach them who is boss!!!
"Thank you for the email.

We will keep on monitoring like we always do and do nothing until a person in the ivory tower gets affected or events that may cause bad things to happen.

Regards, IMḊA"
 

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Hi guys any idea if my eight line could be successfully ported out if I havent been paying the subscription fee for more than a month but below 60 days?

Thanks! :)
 

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Hi guys any idea if my eight line could be successfully ported out if I havent been paying the subscription fee for more than a month but below 60 days?

Thanks! :)
AFAIK, line needs to be in active stage during the porting process. Same for any network provider.
 

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AFAIK, line needs to be in active stage during the porting process. Same for any network provider.
hi dont mind asking, active as in? cuz mine has, can still rec sms otp etc, just cant make outgoing calls/sms etc (unless i make a topup), so, is this still consider 'active'? :)
 

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Ok i think nvm le, i have renewed eight :D

Eh for like 5-8sec i had 5g sia, make me happy, now drop to 4g nb..
 

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The network really can feel getting bad.

Gaming takes some time to load after login (more specifically takes about 5 to 8 seconds) as opposed to other telco which loads within 1 second after login.

This is based on general usage along West and Central locations.
 

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There certainly are, however MVNOs are paranoid about protecting themselves.

As long as people are aware that eSIMs may look convenient on the surface, but dig deeper and understand the caveats as well as account takeover risks.

Think about what happens if you need to change phone. For Eight, you would need to request for another eSIM, and that *will* require you to physically go down to their service center, according to their FAQ.

And if in the process of convenience, your account gets taken over (due to lack of identity checks, or slack checks) and you find that all of your money is gone from your bank account because the threat actor managed to get your bank OTP SMS. What now?

This is a hypothetical situation which unfortunately was a reality for the giga victim.

I get what you’re saying, but this is like a case of not eating because there’s a possibility of choking.

One could argue that companies like Apple and Google have provided really robust methods for transferring eSIM from one phone to another, with both phones being in close proximity, that is not supported by the MVNOs.

Another step taken by some carriers, such as those in the US, is to lock the number so it cannot be ported over. And if you want to port out, you need to unlock first, then there is a cool off period before you can do the transfer.

But security is not just an issue for telcos to deal with. It’s incredible in this day and age, I can’t use 2FA OTP through apps like Authy or hardware keys like Yubico to secure my bank accounts, for example.

Safety is always going to be an inconvenience to users. However, it feels like there’s much better alternatives to getting this done, without having to inconvenience the user as well.
 

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One could argue that companies like Apple and Google have provided really robust methods for transferring eSIM from one phone to another, with both phones being in close proximity, that is not supported by the MVNOs.

Safety is always going to be an inconvenience to users. However, it feels like there’s much better alternatives to getting this done, without having to inconvenience the user as well.
While that does not deal with situations like a dead phone, I do agree with you that phone to phone esim transfer is the least that the telco should allow.

I feel the matter is that of THEIR convenience, not YOURS.
Having to install the rubbish banking apps for EACH bank is ridiculous, not least because they can track more than their claim, generating security & privacy risk instead of providing security. Every additional app requires additional updates, and each update is a security & performance risk as well.

They are also far more complex that just providing 2FA OTP & some basic function. Is that really necessary ? I doubt so, more likely to do something they want than something you need, and using 2FA OTP as an excuse to get people to install them.
 

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At City Sq now. Eight latched onto Maxis automatically. Download 7mbps, ping 132ms :(
Have so far not had problem getting the Eight line to latch either on Maxis (most times) or UMobile (sometimes), but whether it can properly load a page fast enough before I give up, is the question.

Since you're in CS, can try shouting "Eight users fall in!"... and see most shoppers coming to you. :s13:

The phone I've my TnG app for payment, has Simba and Hotlink Prepaid. It gives me the option to use either Maxis or Celcom (and oh, sometimes though rarely UMobile). :o
 

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Hi, at R&F area sometime no network (I suspect phone couldn't decide to use 8 telecom SG network or the Malaysia one), Need to reboot phone before it can get a malaysia netwwork.
Is there a way to force 8 telecoms to use Malaysia network?
 

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Hi, at R&F area sometime no network (I suspect phone couldn't decide to use 8 telecom SG network or the Malaysia one), Need to reboot phone before it can get a malaysia netwwork.
Is there a way to force 8 telecoms to use Malaysia network?
Airplane mode should work. But if you want to force Malaysia network then have to scan and choose manually.

SG network can go all the way to JB Sentral.
 

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Hi, at R&F area sometime no network (I suspect phone couldn't decide to use 8 telecom SG network or the Malaysia one), Need to reboot phone before it can get a malaysia netwwork.
Is there a way to force 8 telecoms to use Malaysia network?

without knowing what phone, in general, look for and disable automatic network selection.
 
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