(GPGT)Espresso machine hoot

[Lazy_Tiger]

hey guys... i'm still searching for my espresso machine. recently i heard NS oscar 2 is available. My budget is below 2 k and it fits the bill. however, the expobar seems to fit my budget as well.

need some advice please! intend to get it before new year

Do you steam milk often? or just go for espresso?

2k budget includes grinder?

Someone is selling an oscar on carousell for $1260

https://carousell.com/p/27570160

 

[patryn33]

hey guys... i'm still searching for my espresso machine. recently i heard NS oscar 2 is available. My budget is below 2 k and it fits the bill. however, the expobar seems to fit my budget as well.

need some advice please! intend to get it before new year

Oscar 1 and 2 price diff like Rm$400 in Malaysia @ lighthouse coffee going for rm41xx.
But here like sgd$400 for $1600
https://carousell.com/p/36533816

Machine alone 2k or machine and grinder 2k??

Some expobar assemble in China

 

[testerjp]

Budget tight can consider Expobar Pulser with Bezzera BB005 grinder. Below $1800
http://www.finecoffeecompany.com/shop/expobar-office-pulser/
http://www.finecoffeecompany.com/shop/coffee-grinder/

Or upgrade grinder to Quamar M80E at $899.
Or upgrade machine to Expobar EB61 at $1599.

I think now have sale on Expobar, din see it last week.

Now gd coffee machines like getting so cheap, coffee bean sellers are going to get good business.

Edit:
My friend emailed the carousell guy and he says there's zero warranty and future support.
If want to take the risk, i think just order yourself from overseas directly.

 

[compuser]

Oscar 1 and 2 price diff like Rm$400 in Malaysia @ lighthouse coffee going for rm41xx.
But here like sgd$400 for $1600
https://carousell.com/p/36533816

Machine alone 2k or machine and grinder 2k??

Some expobar assemble in China

There's a high concentration of scammers on carousell.
Furthermore, I dont think those are official sellers n expect long term support.

I will rather order from overseas.

 

[Corsabrin]

ill arrange a date to go fcc to test bz13. i typically drink Americano on a more frequent basis and milk based for my guests. Any thing to look out for when testing machine? questions to ask?

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[compuser]

If you drink Americano and long black alot, can just get a chemex.

They allow you to test various machines there, so you can have a very clear view. I personally like the Bezzera Strega the most but I already bought the Brewtus. Maybe just check with them the cleaning process.

 

[testerjp]

There's a high concentration of scammers on carousell.
Furthermore, I dont think those are official sellers n expect long term support.

I will rather order from overseas.

Ya at most, I think they just order from overseas or ebay cheap then sell, no warranty.

As well order from overseas directly yourself.
But coffee machines with no local support is damn risky.

Every few years sure have to maintain a little.

 

[Corsabrin]

If you drink Americano and long black alot, can just get a chemex.

They allow you to test various machines there, so you can have a very clear view. I personally like the Bezzera Strega the most but I already bought the Brewtus. Maybe just check with them the cleaning process.

Is chemex really good? it looks like a drip?!

 

[compuser]

Can't say it's better or good, it's up to your preference.
I taste before, it's lighter like tea.

It's more troublesome and may not fit your criteria though

 

[patryn33]

Is chemex really good? it looks like a drip?!

Chemex is drip!
Using paper filter yield cleaner taste. Higher caffeine content
Really depends on preference. I wouldn't say lighter than tea. Go into s cafe and try it and see if u enjoy the taste

I use both Chemex and HX. I enjoy latte more than Chemex.

Chemex less work than HX. No need expensive grinder, no HX to maintain. You just need a timer and a scale to be exact but u could do away if u don't have a acute taste.

It takes longer time to make a cup but with Chemex u making many cups.
Both brew methods
- time grind beans, Chemex don't need super fine
- time takes to boil water almost same as HX
- Chemex just clean with soap and water, HX needs back flush with water b4 shutting off, weekly or mthly back flush with cleaning tablets. Once a year may need to remove shower screen to clean.

 

[testerjp]

Anyone do cold brew?
Anywhere to learn?

Can i do with a hx machine?

 

[patryn33]

Anyone do cold brew?
Anywhere to learn?

Can i do with a hx machine?

Cold brew and heat exchange? I don't think they mix

A lot of YouTube videos and stuff on line from cafe on cold brew
Ie
https://bluebottlecoffee.com/preparation-guides/cold-brew

A lot of comparison on brew techniques
https://www.thrillist.com/drink/nation/best-iced-coffee-how-to-make-iced-coffee

 

[testerjp]

Wow, 2 litres is too much.

I'm am thinking of doing just a few cups

 

[patryn33]

Wow, 2 litres is too much.

I'm am thinking of doing just a few cups

It's all ratio u can scale down accordingly

 

[Radeon]

The japanese iced drip method is pretty decent too if you want a cold coffee.

Here's a link to the method:

https://prima-coffee.com/blog/what-everyone-ought-know-about-iced-coffee-cold-brew-31371

I generally prefer the taste of the V60 over the chemex, there is a lower cost to entry and the filter papers are more readily available. Also, you will cry if you drop your chemex brewer.

 

[testerjp]

For either methods, do I need to adjust my grind setting coarser from espresso grind size?

 

[Radeon]

Usually for a full immersion cold brew like toddy I grind around slightly coarser than french press, and typically a medium-fine grind for dripping over ice.

Its best to experiment to taste, but definitely will be quite a fair bit coarser than grinding for espresso.

 

[patryn33]

Chemex is certainly more costly, hario v60 is a good entry to drink long blacks. Little investment.


Lazy to buy paper filter just get this Osaka
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B019QTUZAU/ref=pd_aw_sbs_79_1?ie=UTF8&dpID=51hdf%2BhOabL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL100_SR100%2C88_&refRID=1VEJF88BHJ3HF4XYM3VF

 

[testerjp]

Since it requires a coarse grinder and I don't do it often, I think I'm getting a small hand grinder and leave my espresso grinder alone.

What is a good grinder for such drip i can get from Amazon??

 

[Corsabrin]

porlex or anonymous grinder??

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