(GPGT)Espresso machine hoot

Igene

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Noon here
Going to invest in my very 1st coffee machine
And shortlisted bezzera bz13, Expobar ep61 and Jura E8
Any advice from the gurus here ?
Need to understand pros n cons of the 3 machines

Help!

Go for Jura if you want superauto only. Coffee it produces also very different from the other 2 lah. Drinkable mostly but don't expect something like those hipster cafe.

Just sold my Jura XS9. Sibeh dualenggong.
 

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Go for Jura if you want superauto only. Coffee it produces also very different from the other 2 lah. Drinkable mostly but don't expect something like those hipster cafe.

Just sold my Jura XS9. Sibeh dualenggong.

Thanks bro
I Guess Jura is out then
 

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Not sure about the EB61 but my Brewtus had been switched on 24/7 for the past 3 years and still performing as good as the day I bought it.
 

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Noon here
Going to invest in my very 1st coffee machine
And shortlisted bezzera bz13, Expobar ep61 and Jura E8
Any advice from the gurus here ?
Need to understand pros n cons of the 3 machines

Help!
Bezzera I just bought loved it. Getting rid of my Jura n never going back :)
 

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ok, already put your 8oz deathwish seasonal blend in cart. Will wait for tortoise to reply my pm.

Should be shipping direct from deathwish to SG, and split delivery into 3.

Damm it is already sold out. Are we still waiting? If Death wish didn't reserve I am out of this order.
 
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Damm it is already sold out. Are we still waiting? If Death wish didn't reserve I am out of this order.

hi,

think we might have set off on a different understanding? I was looking at having more people to share the shipping cost and was waiting for replies from others. I have not made the order as such. And no, the website did not reserve what I put in cart.

Sorry for being unable to check back here all the time and disappointing you! If you still wish to order in future, I can take part in it.

Thanks!
 

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hi,

think we might have set off on a different understanding? I was looking at having more people to share the shipping cost and was waiting for replies from others. I have not made the order as such. And no, the website did not reserve what I put in cart.

Sorry for being unable to check back here all the time and disappointing you! If you still wish to order in future, I can take part in it.

Thanks!

I think the understanding is for everybody to share shipping. But it also include seasonal products and no deadline was given. We can't wait endlessly for people to join. Now that it is OOS and if until Feb then we gather 3 people I probably got nothing to buy. Guess a MO is not possible.
 
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Noon here
Going to invest in my very 1st coffee machine
And shortlisted bezzera bz13, Expobar ep61 and Jura E8
Any advice from the gurus here ?
Need to understand pros n cons of the 3 machines

Help!

Jura is out unless u are lazy and just want to make quick shots
BZ13 is not E61 and is very popular but if you really want a commercial machine get a E61 leva from expobar


The reviews here and my vote goes to expobar https://www.bellabarista.co.uk/pdf/ExpobarOfficeLeva-DualBoilerv4CoffeeMachine.pdf
 

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Help can decide between a bezzera or an Expobar

What's the key factors that made u so indecisive? We cannot decide for you. Bz13 smaller foot print, faster heat up. Do you need that? What is all prof machine all E61 grouphead it must have the adv over the thermal block machine
http://www.finecoffeecompany.com/shop/bezzera-bz13/
 

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What's the key factors that made u so indecisive? We cannot decide for you. Bz13 smaller foot print, faster heat up. Do you need that? What is all prof machine all E61 grouphead it must have the adv over the thermal block machine
http://www.finecoffeecompany.com/shop/bezzera-bz13/

I Guess the smaller footprint of the BZ13 is the deciding factor
 

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The 005 grinder is a stepless grinder, meaning you can tune until it works.
Was using it to grind 1.5kg every week in my office before I brought it back home. Conical burr 48mm, at that price category, is decent enough.
 

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Thanks bro
I need to cater space for a grinder too
Is the bezzera B005 grinder ok

It's a great entry level grinder

Check out reviews here
http://www.home-barista.com/grinders/bezzera-bb005-conical-grinder-t17489.html
http://www.home-barista.com/grinders/bezzera-bb005-best-value-grinder-t41830-20.html

Have you seen this? Footprint maybe smaller
https://decentespresso.com/de1
 
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It's a great entry level grinder

Check out reviews here
http://www.home-barista.com/grinders/bezzera-bb005-conical-grinder-t17489.html
http://www.home-barista.com/grinders/bezzera-bb005-best-value-grinder-t41830-20.html

Have you seen this? Footprint maybe smaller
https://decentespresso.com/de1

Thanks but I will stick to bz or expobar
 

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Thanks but I will stick to bz or expobar

Why not rocket apartamento from stellar M or VBM domobar jr highlander?

Or profitec from knock house or coffee in a place? or My way Alex, fracino, strietman, versuvius from coffee in a place?

Or la marzocco, silvia or

No need to rush the purchase. Go to the vendors and take a look at the machines. ask them to open the cover to look at the internals. You can seek the quality there. See the layout and components. sirai pstar or jaeger? wiring is a bloody mess or well thought out and neatly implemented? Ask them about the e61 group head. does it come with mechanical preinfusion? Examine the group head. solid and heavy or light and crappy.
Look at the boilers. Copper, brass or TIG welded stainless steel.

Whats your budget?

If you want fuss free design and shots and top notch quality without needed special power requirements and plumb in i suggest go with a la marzocco linea mini.

If you are anal retentive go with a slayer or hydra MVP for the best temp stability and ease of changing brew pressure. .

Get a good grinder too. If you are home user and make 1-2 shots a day and like to experiment with different beans each time get single dose, low retention grinders. Baratza sette from stellar m for motorised grinder and its pretty cheap. if you don't mind hand grinding get a HG 1, to me HG-1 is the perfect grinder for home use if you don't mind 7 secs of grindings for espresso. Yes just 7 sec of grinding is required for 20g dose once the burrs have been seasoned.
If you have a larger budget and believe unimodal grinds are better then get an EK43 or mahlkonig peak or LWW EG-1 or Kafatek Flat burr grinders.

0.1 g water resistant scales is very important. brewista is the cheapest water resistant one and is good.

Get Vst baskets too. 18g or 20g one to start with. VST baskets is the cheapest way to brew better with modern roast styles.
 

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Lelit Anna has very small footprint too. Not sure if it's available locally though. Their grinder I rmb available locally.
 
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