
Hey guys am currently on nespresso and wish to up my game plus play with latte art for fun. What's the most basic recommended stuff to get? Say no budget but want bang for buck at same time. Thanks a lot.
The keyword is you(tortoise) drink with a lot with milk, i think just save up and aim for a heat exchanger straight.
Expobar Office Pulser Espresso Machine - Fine Coffee Company SG / MY
HX with full copper boilers, sitting at almost 20 kg of mostly stainless steel or copper metal for $1398.
Heat exchangers can heat and froth at the same time.
Not only that, it can create quality froth easily.
I was at my uncle's place playing with his don't know what machine which uses a hybrid of boiler with thermobloc for frothing, the frothing is horrible.
Never got it right. Even his experienced hands, can't do ****.
Ya, maybe someone can tell you you can finally perfect it one day, but it's going to take you hella of patience and milk to get it.
After i got my brewtus, he admits that the first few attempts i made as a newbie, makes cups better than him, my uncle, who spent 3 years struggling and still figuring what's wrong.
To be honest, for that $500 budget, is really not easy to get a decent enough set up. I was like you a few months ago, trying to upgrade from my Jura with the least money. Maybe you can go for a hand grinder, which cut the cost, but it's gonna to add up a lot of prep time.
I'm not sure about you, my morning time is precious. Can't afford too much time making.
Gd luck and hope you enjoy making coffee.

My tortoise i'm referring is the tortoise18 guy who was asking earlier.![]()

I actually like the Bezzera Strega, it's a spring lever machine.
It goes from low pressure, to high then back low.
Similar to those super exp pressure profiling machines are normally set to.
No need backflushing, very consistent, very hardy since the pump isn't responsible for extraction, and surprisingly easy to use.
The different pressure extracts different profiles from the coffee, so it forms a fuller body with a wider context of aroma from the same coffee.
Even better than my PID double boiler which can only draw with a straight line of pressure and temperature.
I did not get the Strega because i drink mostly with milk so won't benefit much from those features.
My Brewtus has a PID to control the temperature which in turn control the intensity of the coffee in a way like how Nespresso rate its coffee. You know control the bitterness and acidity, etc?
If you are on a tight budget, i think Expobar's Office series or the EB61 are the best bang for bucks, most value for your money. All are heat exchangers.
If you are really damn broke and die die want to have one, maybe get a second hand single boiler so you won't feel the pinch when you upgrade. Or stick to the Nespresso system.
I'm thinking of starting with a budget one hands on if I like it first. Is e capresso ec pro much better than eco310? E 310 gt gd reviews lei
expobar or the bz09 would be better?
I love my coffee with lots of milk
singapore no capresso ec pro boo.. alternatve order from amazon
i emailed jura. they dun carry
hey guys i'm looking for an espresso machine first timer. budget about $500. drinks 2 cups/day
LOOKING AT DELONGHI 310 OR GAGGIA CLASSIC. but dunno where got sell gaggia classic lol...[/QUOTE]
Taka also got sell. Wait for their storewide sale.
Expobars are mostly heat exchangers or double boilers.expobar or the bz09 would be better?
I love my coffee with lots of milk
I think you should go to the deparmental stores and feel it first.singapore no capresso ec pro boo.. alternatve order from amazon
i emailed jura. they dun carry
http://www.amazon.com/Gaggia-12500-...?ie=UTF8&filterBy=addOneStar&showViewpoints=0Is the gaggia baby double any good?
Expobars are mostly heat exchangers or double boilers.
Bezzera BZ09 is a single boiler.
I think you should compare with Bezzera BZ10 instead, also a heat exchanger.
What's the difference between single boilers and heat exchangers?
As making steam for milk frothing will require the water in the boiler to be at above boiling point. And brewing coffee needs a lower tempeature.
If you have a single boiler, you'll have to heat your machine to serve one purpose then wait a while for the machine to reach the other temp before you can do another task. So you will have to switch mode in your machine and wait for the boiler to stabilise between different temperature
Heat exchangers no need to wait, they can do both tasks together with a special boiler.
Since you are drinking mainly with milk, get a heat exchanger because it can froth and brew at the same time. Really a lot a lot easier.
Compare Bezzera BZ10 with Expobar say EB61, BZ10 is faster in starting up and smaller.
If you are mainly a coffee black drinker and requires a white recipe only occassionally, BZ09 is good enough. It's using copper boilers which are the most conductive and the boiler is smaller, so it should start really quick.
But then, for the price of Bezzera's BZ09, you can almost buy the Expobar's Pulser which is a heat exchanger.