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Just visited the showroom yesterday. 1 bedder left 28th and 30th floor. psf around >3.5k... :s22:
I won't bother to touch at such crazy price....

M Condo is only 1 street across, I believe the investors there will be very happy now. Midtown upped the psf for them. Congrat! lol

3.5k?! Lol which Robert tao will buy
 

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More than 60% of units at Midtown Modern condo sold on launch weekend

SINGAPORE- A total of 340 of the 558 units of condominium Midtown Modern in Bugis were snapped up on its launch weekend.

The price of units ranged between $2,401 and $3,501 per sq ft (psf), with those sold going for an average of $2,800 psf.

Around 90 per cent of all one- and two-bedroom units and nearly half of all three-bedroom units were sold, said developer GuocoLand in a statement on Monday (March 22).

A 3,520 sq ft five-bedroom penthouse costing $14.83 million and eight four-bedroom units were also snapped up, it added.

GuocoLand said most of the buyers are Singaporeans, with a mix of owner-occupiers and investors.

Midtown Modern, in Tan Quee Lan Street, is the second condo in GuocoLand's Guoco Midtown, a 3.2ha mixed-use mega development in Beach Road due to be completed in phases starting from 2022.

The 99-year leasehold condominium, comprising two 30-storey towers and a retail podium, will feature around 10 thematic gardens and landscaped areas, a 50m swimming pool, clubhouse, tennis court, hot spring and tea house, among others.

The development is a joint venture between GuocoLand, Hong Leong Holdings and Hong Realty (Private) and its sales gallery opened for preview on March 6.

Many owner-occupier buyers belonging to younger age groups or smaller household sizes found the two and three-bedroom unit layouts well designed for liveability, said GuocoLand Singapore general manager of residential Dora Chng.

She said: "In fact, a number of investor-buyers also gave feedback that they intend to move into Midtown Modern when they get older because the extensive range of amenities and direct connection to the Bugis MRT interchange station make their busy lifestyles easier. We are expecting larger families to come as they get better acquainted with the development."

Expected to be completed by 2024, the development is connected to Bugis MRT interchange station, which is served by the Ea
 

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GuocoLand’s Midtown Modern has a strong start: DBS

“In a research note dated March 22, DBS analysts Derek Tan, Rachel Tan, and the DBS Singapore research team noted more than 60% in sales was recorded at launch weekend”
https://www.theedgesingapore.com/ca...GNXvSH_WSc2zYE3loMbZVnlALEIlGChRlVNtBzXgp-aac

Interesting article, thanks for posting!
"Total project costs are estimated close to $1.15 billion, implying break-even of around $2,300 – $2,350 per square foot."

I think Guoco actually priced the 2 and 3 bedrooms quite reasonably, given this estimate. There were still 1066-sqft 3 bedders on low/medium floors selling at 6pm on Saturday for $2375 psqft (close to $2350 psqft with the 1% launch day discount!). We decided to pay a ~5% premium to face TQL instead of taking the cheapest units, but I'm still a little haunted by that decision :s13:

Just visited the showroom yesterday. 1 bedder left 28th and 30th floor. psf around >3.5k... :s22:
I won't bother to touch at such crazy price....
On the other hand, the 1 bedders are priced to absolute insanity. :s22:
 

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If dissect the price betw MTB and MTM, the difference is not much anyway.
As I pointed out before, it’s rather peculiar for MTM to be selling so much better than MTB.
Like some bros had pointed, some r not a fan of staying near Bugis.
In fact, for D7, I prefer those dev that r nearer to suntec.
 
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More than 60% of units at Midtown Modern condo sold on launch weekend

SINGAPORE- A total of 340 of the 558 units of condominium Midtown Modern in Bugis were snapped up on its launch weekend.

The price of units ranged between $2,401 and $3,501 per sq ft (psf), with those sold going for an average of $2,800 psf.

Around 90 per cent of all one- and two-bedroom units and nearly half of all three-bedroom units were sold, said developer GuocoLand in a statement on Monday (March 22).

A 3,520 sq ft five-bedroom penthouse costing $14.83 million and eight four-bedroom units were also snapped up, it added.

GuocoLand said most of the buyers are Singaporeans, with a mix of owner-occupiers and investors.

Midtown Modern, in Tan Quee Lan Street, is the second condo in GuocoLand's Guoco Midtown, a 3.2ha mixed-use mega development in Beach Road due to be completed in phases starting from 2022.

The 99-year leasehold condominium, comprising two 30-storey towers and a retail podium, will feature around 10 thematic gardens and landscaped areas, a 50m swimming pool, clubhouse, tennis court, hot spring and tea house, among others.

The development is a joint venture between GuocoLand, Hong Leong Holdings and Hong Realty (Private) and its sales gallery opened for preview on March 6.

Many owner-occupier buyers belonging to younger age groups or smaller household sizes found the two and three-bedroom unit layouts well designed for liveability, said GuocoLand Singapore general manager of residential Dora Chng.

She said: "In fact, a number of investor-buyers also gave feedback that they intend to move into Midtown Modern when they get older because the extensive range of amenities and direct connection to the Bugis MRT interchange station make their busy lifestyles easier. We are expecting larger families to come as they get better acquainted with the development."

Expected to be completed by 2024, the development is connected to Bugis MRT interchange station, which is served by the Ea



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Mind blowing...

Whether priced like the M or higher, the sales result during launch is still 60 to 70% !!!

Again, With my money, I prefer to buy OCR/RCR...



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Back then, duo residence was also deem as a very good buy as psf can go as low as 17xxpsf. But comes to resale performance, it’s seems like so so nia. Again, those who buy MTM should know this and prepared mentally once MTM enter resale market.
 

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Back then, duo residence was also deem as a very good buy as psf can go as low as 17xxpsf. But comes to resale performance, it’s seems like so so nia. Again, those who buy MTM should know this and prepared mentally once MTM enter resale market.

I'm curious if other people have opinions on why that is. Seems like there's a lot of pent up demand for the location, based on M and MTM sales.

Anyone have Duo transaction history to share?
 

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I'm curious if other people have opinions on why that is. Seems like there's a lot of pent up demand for the location, based on M and MTM sales.

Anyone have Duo transaction history to share?
DUO residences, 660units development. TOP in 2017, so far only 38 resale/subsale transacted.

Quick check on prop guru, 101 sales listings.

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I'm curious if other people have opinions on why that is. Seems like there's a lot of pent up demand for the location, based on M and MTM sales.

Anyone have Duo transaction history to share?

Just a snap shot. Highest lost can up to a mil and highest profit about 300k
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Think their unit sizes are generally bigger.. so cheaper on psf but quantum comparable to those newer launches nearby..
 

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Out of curiosity, what's the argument used to differentiate MTM from Duo, or to persuade buyers that MTM is superior to Duo? The 2 projects look extremely comparable as they are both connected to the same MRT station and sheltered all the way, and are mixed-use large projects. The resale history of Duo and the 2 projects' relative price points should paint a rather cautionary picture. If one loves the area and convenience, wouldn't a Duo resale be a more logical option?
 

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Out of curiosity, what's the argument used to differentiate MTM from Duo, or to persuade buyers that MTM is superior to Duo? The 2 projects look extremely comparable as they are both connected to the same MRT station and sheltered all the way, and are mixed-use large projects. The resale history of Duo and the 2 projects' relative price points should paint a rather cautionary picture. If one loves the area and convenience, wouldn't a Duo resale be a more logical option?

Hehe, that’s what bro newbie has painstakingly put up the resale transaction data of duo to cautious MTM buyers the psf and entry price.

Noticed the current trend about new launch price is sky is the limit. But comes to resale, all the realities set in. :D
 

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Just a snap shot. Highest lost can up to a mil and highest profit about 300k
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Thank you newbie and nishizhu for the data! Is this screenshot from an agent's tool? Do you have a link to the full 38 transactions?


The 101 transactions listed on PropGuru is definitely worrying lol. Assuming they're duplicated by a factor of 3, that's still ~34 units on the market, nearly as many as resale transactions there have been total!

According to Bala's chart, Duo should only have depreciated about 6% in the 8 years between its lease start (2011) and MTM's (2019), so the new launch premium for MTM is quite real.
 

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Thank you newbie and nishizhu for the data! Is this screenshot from an agent's tool? Do you have a link to the full 38 transactions?


The 101 transactions listed on PropGuru is definitely worrying lol. Assuming they're duplicated by a factor of 3, that's still ~34 units on the market, nearly as many as resale transactions there have been total!

According to Bala's chart, Duo should only have depreciated about 6% in the 8 years between its lease start (2011) and MTM's (2019), so the new launch premium for MTM is quite real.

If MTM is not perceived to do well in the resale market, I wonder why would ppl still buy into the M now at 24xxpsf and up (some even pay 3000psf), given that I would assume buyers to choose MTM in the resale market compared to the M. Better product overall.
 

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Thank you newbie and nishizhu for the data! Is this screenshot from an agent's tool? Do you have a link to the full 38 transactions?


The 101 transactions listed on PropGuru is definitely worrying lol. Assuming they're duplicated by a factor of 3, that's still ~34 units on the market, nearly as many as resale transactions there have been total!

According to Bala's chart, Duo should only have depreciated about 6% in the 8 years between its lease start (2011) and MTM's (2019), so the new launch premium for MTM is quite real.
Screenshot from official URA caveat. You can check em out :)

https://www.ura.gov.sg/realEstateIIWeb/transaction/search.action
 
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