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Insulin promotes fat storage and inhibits the fat metabolism process.

Fasting controls your insulin spikes, and allows time for your body to burn fat and not be in a perpetual state of heightened insulin levels rendering the body being unable to burn fat.

Just need to look at Muslims during fasting month, most of them lose a lot of weight even though they whack alot food in morning and evening.
Once stop fasting put on weight
 

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Very interesting theory, but I like to seek your explanation of why adopting a vegan low carb diet, that cholesterol levels will drop?

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/415074
Likely coz vegan diet in itself contains barely any proper form of cholesterol or precursor that human bodies can use?

Remember leafy greens are largely indigestible cellulose as taught in pri sch science classes.

Any protein inside these veggies are barely absorbable by the human digestive system. Most of it just comes out from our Kar chng.

That's why vegans look emaciated by year 3 onwards if they are really really strict. At this point, their bodies start to consume itself
 

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Likely coz vegan diet in itself contains barely any proper form of cholesterol or precursor that human bodies can use?

Remember leafy greens are largely indigestible cellulose as taught in pri sch science classes.

Any protein inside these veggies are barely absorbable by the human digestive system. Most of it just comes out from our Kar chng.

That's why vegans look emaciated by year 3 onwards if they are really really strict. At this point, their bodies start to consume itself
So vegans are bad?
 

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So vegans are bad?
vegans will have alot of difficulty getting enough proteins, you have to eat so much bean curd, toufu etc...almost all plant food don't contain the essential fatty acid omega 3 except walnuts. If you are a vegan and didn't know that you have to eat walnut, you will have some problems.
 

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I know how most pte specialists work, in a sense that if they see slight chance of surgery, they are likely to jump on it. It's quite bad to have this negative perception of them to place monetary gain before patients' benefits.

Therefore, I put my nephew under the public system. Let the hospital treat him for about a year with all sorts of xrays, scan, physio, heat therapy, cream etc etc (sort of monthly appt). Then finally ortho gave admission form to confirm surgery.

It is then I booked a pte ortho for him to seek a second opinion of whether the surgery is necessary (the form says it's a surgery for "Right ankle arthroscopy...lateral ligament repair". I checked pte indicative pricing for this (lucky still can afford):



If the pte ortho diagnosed the same as the public ortho, then will go for it under the pte ortho (cannot see him keep getting grounded at home due to sprained ankle. I can sense his frustration.).

Yes Most importantly to get a doctor that is competent and willingly to fix it since this one is for life :oi went through an ortho surgery and seem like it is not the most desirable result perhaps could be better if i went with another surgeon
 

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I know how most pte specialists work, in a sense that if they see slight chance of surgery, they are likely to jump on it. It's quite bad to have this negative perception of them to place monetary gain before patients' benefits.

Therefore, I put my nephew under the public system. Let the hospital treat him for about a year with all sorts of xrays, scan, physio, heat therapy, cream etc etc (sort of monthly appt). Then finally ortho gave admission form to confirm surgery.

It is then I booked a pte ortho for him to seek a second opinion of whether the surgery is necessary (the form says it's a surgery for "Right ankle arthroscopy...lateral ligament repair". I checked pte indicative pricing for this (lucky still can afford):



If the pte ortho diagnosed the same as the public ortho, then will go for it under the pte ortho (cannot see him keep getting grounded at home due to sprained ankle. I can sense his frustration.).

Why were u in charge of ur nephew
 

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It's not proven that having high cholesterol is a cause of heart attacks (read Ancel Keys and his flawed cholesterol hypothesis)

In fact, some studies suggest that having lower cholesterol could be linked to higher mortality

Also our bodies naturally increase cholesterol production as we age to repair and protect us

Dietary intake of cholesterol has little to do with our body cholesterol levels - if we take in less than needed, our body will produce them and vice versa

There are also no such thing as "good" and "bad" cholesterol as both HDL and LDL serves a purpose
 

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It's not proven that having high cholesterol is a cause of heart attacks (read Ancel Keys and his flawed cholesterol hypothesis)
In fact, some studies suggest that having lower cholesterol could be linked to higher mortality
Also our bodies naturally increase cholesterol production as we age to repair and protect us
Dietary intake of cholesterol has little to do with our body cholesterol levels - if we take in less than needed, our body will produce them and vice versa
There are also no such thing as "good" and "bad" cholesterol as both HDL and LDL serves a purpose
Does it cause stroke?



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https://jech.bmj.com/content/56/suppl_1/i19
https://www.aan.com/PressRoom/Home/PressRelease/2714
https://bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12916-021-02014-4
Instead of looking at the total cholesterol number, some studies suggest that high triglycerides are a better predictor of both heart attack and stroke risk

Didn't read everything yet. Only saw the focus was low LDL higher risk of stroke. But I wanted to know about high LDL instead.


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Didn't read everything yet. Only saw the focus was low LDL higher risk of stroke. But I wanted to know about high LDL instead.


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simply put.
cholesterol levels are just one of many indicators. they are not the problem in itself.

focusing on taking medication just to lower this single indicator is like... turning off the fire alarm pretending everything is OK while the fire is burning out of control right behind the door.
 

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Slim and high cholesterol.
My guess is, their diet not very carb heavy.
And body is burning more fat for energy.
This is known as the "lipid energy model". U can Google search this term...it is quite recent.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35629964/

So if the body is burning more fat for energy, it is natural that more cholesterol particles are required to carry the fat around the body for metabolism.

This is my best guess
very deep leh

but this model mahciam saying high HDL is fine if one do lota of cardio n up meto
 

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simply put.
cholesterol levels are just one of many indicators. they are not the problem in itself.
focusing on taking medication just to lower this single indicator is like... turning off the fire alarm pretending everything is OK while the fire is burning out of control right behind the door.

That's what I thought too. But everyday in fear whether my high ldl will cause me great problem or danger if I refuse medication


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I saw some posts saying that having a high cholesterol is okay. Note that every single organisation on Earth says high LDL is causative of ASCVD, whether it's MOH, KKM, DOH, AHA, ACC, AAPA, ABC, ACPM, AGS, APhA, ASH, ASPC, NHC, NMA, PCNA etc
Rmb the food pyramid? I rmb since I young HSA been pushing it. Push until diabetes everywhere in SG especially in the boomer generation.

Nowadays tell people to cut down carbs n sugars.

Let's also not forget how eggs n butter were bad, and industrial wastes like seed oils were good, and now eggs n butter are good again. Doctors even endorsed cigarettes many decades ago.

Huge beauracratic organizations takes a long time to turn around. Not the fault of individuals but that's the nature of the beast.

We as individuals can either defer our personal responsibilities(reading individual studies) by letting beauracrats do it on behalf of us, or we can seek out the information ourselves and decide.
 

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If u have been taking statin and you started to eat healthy and exercise to lose weight
1 year later ur cholesterol level drop to normal, can anyhow stop medication?
Or must take for life?
 

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If u have been taking statin and you started to eat healthy and exercise to lose weight
1 year later ur cholesterol level drop to normal, can anyhow stop medication?
Or must take for life?
If u stop the chlolesterol level will go up again
 
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