Hisense TV

[morimorimori]

Sg version seems so.

 

[qwerty_hippo]

The Hisense Singapore Shopee Rep has just informed that the U8H SG variant uses IPS panels in all available sizes and that the contrast ratio is 1400:1 (much lower than the U7G's VA Panel 4000:1) hence the U8H will have weaker black levels, higher probability of issues like light haloing/blooming and lower color volume as we've seen in past tests by HDTVTest on TVs with the same IPS + MiniLED/Full Array setup.

At (18:47) Vincent from HDTVTest explains this setback through his tests on multiple TVs:


For some reasons they have chosen not to indicate the contrast ratio on the U8H's spec sheet unlike the other models and previous 2021 series.

Safer to stick to U7G for now

 

[Neetsognam]

The oled model looks good though, at least on paper. Unfortunately it is so hard to find good reviews for models released in asia.

 

[bomberman]

can use the 1st OLED they released in China as reference (reviews in mandarin)
https://space.bilibili.com/67991584/channel/series

 

[stalejive]

can anybody share their U7G picture settings ? my set look so washed out.


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[lzy1987]

can anybody share their U7G picture settings ? my set look so washed out.


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Depend on your video, it will trigger different Picture Mode:
HDR content - I choose HDR dynamic
SDR content - I choose Cinema Day
Color temperature - Warm2 or Standard (as per your preference)
Backlight - Maximum
Adaptive Contrast - Low (makes the dark images darker, up to your preference)

The rest I leave it as default setting based on the chosen picture mode.

Other settings:
Set HDMI mode to Enhanced Format
Depending on your audio setup, you may want to enable EARC and select passthrough for audio output.

 

[Neetsognam]

can anybody share their U7G picture settings ? my set look so washed out.

For me
SDR content
Pict mode: cinema day or night
Local dimming: low
Gamma: 2.2
Motion control: off
Colour temp: warm 2

Dolby vision
Pict mode: dolby vision day
The rest same as above

Dolby vision content looks really good on the tv, go watch some on the free netflix premium

 

[stalejive]

Depend on your video, it will trigger different Picture Mode:
HDR content - I choose HDR dynamic
SDR content - I choose Cinema Day
Color temperature - Warm2 or Standard (as per your preference)
Backlight - Maximum
Adaptive Contrast - Low (makes the dark images darker, up to your preference)

The rest I leave it as default setting based on the chosen picture mode.

Other settings:
Set HDMI mode to Enhanced Format
Depending on your audio setup, you may want to enable EARC and select passthrough for audio output.

For me
SDR content
Pict mode: cinema day or night
Local dimming: low
Gamma: 2.2
Motion control: off
Colour temp: warm 2

Dolby vision
Pict mode: dolby vision day
The rest same as above

Dolby vision content looks really good on the tv, go watch some on the free netflix premium

Oh man, thank you both of you for your settings !!! @lzy1987 @Neetsognam

 

[darr]

Can share your picture settings for U7G? So far my biggest issue is with motion and skin tones. There are ghosting effect especially on scenes with quick motion of faces at close up. For skin tones, if i adjust till all colours look correct, the skin tones will look overly red. If i adjust till skin tones look correct, everything else will get too pale. For now im just letting people look sunburnt.

Are you using Color Tuner under Expert Settings? From there you can adjust individual RGB channels, there’s also a special Fresh Tone channel for fine tuning which straddles between red/green. I suggest u project a calibration chart image on the screen when doing this, use a chart that has both RGB CMY and skins images to adjust to your liking while keeping individual channel tones relatively accurate.

This is much more accurate than using the standard hue/saturation/brigtness settings. My settings won’t be ideal to what you may want cos of different ambient light and personal preference.

Also remember when you adjust via the chart, it is on the current source you using, you either copy the settings made to the input source you using or apply across all sources..

For ghosting....hard to say what’s wrong, can be the source or maybe you more sensitive to it. Can try use Cinema mode which applies smoothing to skins or play with the Ultra Clear Motion setting. I don’t experience this but I switch Picture Modes based on time of day cos my TV is besides the balcony, I also install USB RGB stripes (like Philips Ambilight) helps reduce front glare when watching in the dark.

 

[bojio sia]

Here is a question out of topic but about the brightness, where do you all go check the product if you were to prefer to check it offline because seems like there are people recommending the TV a lot especially on other thread. So where you look for the quality of Hisense TV?

 

[Zetrio2006]

so, I'll to answer my question. The color is a little, how should i say this, whitish in a way. It was sitting side by side with another brand and I can see the difference between the two.

I was really keen on getting this TV but decided not to.

Color can change one. Most important is the reliability.

Some salesmen want to push one tv over another because the commission is higher so they will set one tv whitish in color and the other more vibrant.

 

[TrueBeliever_jh]

Came across this.. might be interesting.....?

 

[sKeLeToN]

The Hisense Singapore Shopee Rep has just informed that the U8H SG variant uses IPS panels in all available sizes and that the contrast ratio is 1400:1 (much lower than the U7G's VA Panel 4000:1) hence the U8H will have weaker black levels, higher probability of issues like light haloing/blooming and lower color volume as we've seen in past tests by HDTVTest on TVs with the same IPS + MiniLED/Full Array setup.

At (18:47) Vincent from HDTVTest explains this setback through his tests on multiple TVs:


For some reasons they have chosen not to indicate the contrast ratio on the U8H's spec sheet unlike the other models and previous 2021 series.

This sounds disappointing...i've been pinning my hopes on Hisense being the best budget TV to get...

Having said this, i'm not exactly tech savvy to fully appreciate the difference in specs - I only know the contrast ratio means the ratio between blackest and whitest white? More importantly for me is whether the above mentioned contrast ratio very noticeable in real life situation...in my case, i'm planning to use the tv in living room, so a brightly lit area....so how much diff is there with a low vs high contrast ratio?

Anyway Hisense got nowhere to physically view their TVs hor....?

 

[petetherock]

Brightness and contrast ratios are things even a newbie can notice especially in a poorly light controlled environment like a bright living room

 

[Kepller]

This sounds disappointing...i've been pinning my hopes on Hisense being the best budget TV to get...

Having said this, i'm not exactly tech savvy to fully appreciate the difference in specs - I only know the contrast ratio means the ratio between blackest and whitest white? More importantly for me is whether the above mentioned contrast ratio very noticeable in real life situation...in my case, i'm planning to use the tv in living room, so a brightly lit area....so how much diff is there with a low vs high contrast ratio?

Anyway Hisense got nowhere to physically view their TVs hor....?

Agreed most of us are disappointed by this. If they had stuck to a VA panel like last year's U7G they would have gotten high recommendations and would be a solid buy at the price, potentially forcing TCL to lower their prices and giving Sony and Samsung a healthy competition. Very sad it is not the case this year, unless the U9H SG Variant (which is currently still unknown) comes with a VA panel and a competitive price.

Agreed with Pete as well, Brightness & Contrast Ratio are some of the first few things we notice on a screen hence its crucial to get the TV with the higher contrast panel.

If we refer to the video in my post at (time 18:47) Vincent from HDTVTest demonstrates this (though in a dark room) and we can clearly see a difference there, the IPS + MiniLED TV has lifted Black levels, more light halo-ing / blooming (due to more light leakage of an IPS panel), and lower color volume.

In a bright environment the 2022 U8H/U7H is likely to look either washed out or suffer from more light halo-ing/blooming when compared with VA Panel TVs of equivalent specs (This will be even more obvious when its displaying HDR content) unless the Salesman changes the Picture settings to one of those "Vibrant" Picture Profile, in attempt to artificially increase the contrast and saturation which gives an inaccurate and colorful picture. Setting it to Vibrant or whatever similar boosted Picture Profile, usually results in clipping the brightest whites and blackest black (dark areas in the movie where the shadows are completely blacked-out/no longer visible due to clipping, instead of subtlety showing you the detail). If you set this Picture Profile back to the default Flat Picture Profile, it then becomes dull due to the mediocre contrast ratio on an IPS panel.

This article should elaborate further:

Setting contrast and brightness​

Contrast and brightness are two sides of the same coin. The contrast setting adjusts the bright parts of the image, while the brightness setting adjusts the dark parts. If you set the contrast too high, you will lose the fine detail in bright images. If you set it too low, the whole image will appear flat and lifeless. Set the brightness too high and blacks will get lighter, causing the image to look washed out. Set it too low and all the details in shadows will disappear into a murky mess.

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/simple-tips-for-getting-the-best-picture-from-your-new-tv/

The lower your contrast ratio, the lesser room to squeeze extra performance before things in either of the extreme ends (dark / bright) begin to clip as seen in the above 2 picture where the bottom one has the sun completely not visible.

This explains further:

The HDR display must have either a peak brightness of over 1000 cd/m2 and a black level less than 0.05 cd/m2 (a contrast ratio of at least 20,000:1) or a peak brightness of over 540 cd/m2 and a black level less than 0.0005 cd/m2 (a contrast ratio of at least 1,080,000:1).[

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_dynamic_range#:~:text=The HDR display must have,at least 1,080,000:1).

Going for an IPS panel pushes you further away from the HDR requirement compared to a VA Panel. You trade Contrast Ratio, better light blooming/halo-ing control and Color volume for a wider viewing angle which at this point, the LG C1 OLED would somehow pop up in the buying decision as it has none of these trade-offs though with a risk of burn in.

The Light halo-ing and blooming might be less noticeable in a well lit environment but it can still be noticeable as seen in Courts/Best Denki/Harvey Norman on their display Samsung QLED Mini LED TV with an IPS panel, e.g the QN85A at the 55" size (Samsung chose to go with IPS panels instead of VA last year out of the U.S). I've seen the QN85A and there is significant Light halo-ing and blooming (around bright objects on a dark background) on even their Demo video clips which are meant to hide flaws. There has been claims going around multiple forums like AVS that this year Samsung will return to full VA Panels for their new 2022 TVs in most countries but we will have to wait and see if it happens in Singapore.

If you are eyeing on a Hisense TV but will not have any use for HDMI 2.1 ports and a 120hz Refresh Rate screen, last year's U7G (SG Variant) is a better option (on paper at least). The U7G seems to be the only available Hisense SG TV with a VA panel and full array local dimming combo. Alternatively we can wait to see if the U9H or U6H (SG Variants) comes with a VA panel or not. Perhaps Hisense SG could be trying to push more sales toward their flagship of 2022.

I've heard that they will be opening their showroom in May and might also have their own space at the big retailers, best to confirm with them on this. If they place the U7G, U7H and U8H side-by-side and if the U7G's local dimming system is decent (RTINGS and HDTVTest do not review SG Variants so actual real world performance is unknown) with no foul play involve, the U7G should beat both the U7H and U8H picture quality wise (in terms of blooming/light halo-ing control, contrast ratio, color volumes etc).

 

[sKeLeToN]

Agreed most of us are disappointed by this. If they had stuck to a VA panel like last year's U7G they would have gotten high recommendations and would be a solid buy at the price, potentially forcing TCL to lower their prices and giving Sony and Samsung a healthy competition. Very sad it is not the case this year, unless the U9H SG Variant (which is currently still unknown) comes with a VA panel and a competitive price.

Agreed with Pete as well, Brightness & Contrast Ratio are some of the first few things we notice on a screen hence its crucial to get the TV with the higher contrast panel.

If we refer to the video in my post at (time 18:47) Vincent from HDTVTest demonstrates this (though in a dark room) and we can clearly see a difference there, the IPS + MiniLED TV has lifted Black levels, more light halo-ing / blooming (due to more light leakage of an IPS panel), and lower color volume.

In a bright environment the 2022 U8H/U7H is likely to look either washed out or suffer from more light halo-ing/blooming when compared with VA Panel TVs of equivalent specs (This will be even more obvious when its displaying HDR content) unless the Salesman changes the Picture settings to one of those "Vibrant" Picture Profile, in attempt to artificially increase the contrast and saturation which gives an inaccurate and colorful picture. Setting it to Vibrant or whatever similar boosted Picture Profile, usually results in clipping the brightest whites and blackest black (dark areas in the movie where the shadows are completely blacked-out/no longer visible due to clipping, instead of subtlety showing you the detail). If you set this Picture Profile back to the default Flat Picture Profile, it then becomes dull due to the mediocre contrast ratio on an IPS panel.

This article should elaborate further:

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/simple-tips-for-getting-the-best-picture-from-your-new-tv/

The lower your contrast ratio, the lesser room to squeeze extra performance before things in either of the extreme ends (dark / bright) begin to clip as seen in the above 2 picture where the bottom one has the sun completely not visible.

This explains further:

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_dynamic_range#:~:text=The HDR display must have,at least 1,080,000:1).

Going for an IPS panel pushes you further away from the HDR requirement compared to a VA Panel. You trade Contrast Ratio, better light blooming/halo-ing control and Color volume for a wider viewing angle which at this point, the LG C1 OLED would somehow pop up in the buying decision as it has none of these trade-offs though with a risk of burn in.

The Light halo-ing and blooming might be less noticeable in a well lit environment but it can still be noticeable as seen in Courts/Best Denki/Harvey Norman on their display Samsung QLED Mini LED TV with an IPS panel, e.g the QN85A at the 55" size (Samsung chose to go with IPS panels instead of VA last year out of the U.S). I've seen the QN85A and there is significant Light halo-ing and blooming (around bright objects on a dark background) on even their Demo video clips which are meant to hide flaws. There has been claims going around multiple forums like AVS that this year Samsung will return to full VA Panels for their new 2022 TVs in most countries but we will have to wait and see if it happens in Singapore.

If you are eyeing on a Hisense TV but will not have any use for HDMI 2.1 ports and a 120hz Refresh Rate screen, last year's U7G (SG Variant) is a better option (on paper at least). The U7G seems to be the only available Hisense SG TV with a VA panel and full array local dimming combo. Alternatively we can wait to see if the U9H or U6H (SG Variants) comes with a VA panel or not. Perhaps Hisense SG could be trying to push more sales toward their flagship of 2022.

I've heard that they will be opening their showroom in May and might also have their own space at the big retailers, best to confirm with them on this. If they place the U7G, U7H and U8H side-by-side and if the U7G's local dimming system is decent (RTINGS and HDTVTest do not review SG Variants so actual real world performance is unknown) with no foul play involve, the U7G should beat both the U7H and U8H picture quality wise (in terms of blooming/light halo-ing control, contrast ratio, color volumes etc).

Wow thanks for the in-depth response!

I’m looking to future proof with this next purchase, so am looking for a 4k 120hz with HDMI 2.1 inputs…so the U7G doesn’t make the cut…

Was really hoping the U8H could gimme the specs I need for a budget, but looks like I should not take the risk with the IPS panel….any other models you think I can look at for this price point? Im looking for 65”…

 

[ferocity]

Abit of good to know info for U7G owners. I was trying the remote of my old hisense tv on my current U7G and all buttons(including youtube/netflix shortcuts) and functions works as per the U7G original remote other than the lack of voice search function. Its a cheap 1:1 copy remote i bought on shopee for ard $3 only. So next time if your U7G remote is spoilt, can get this as a replacement.
https://shopee.sg/Naicfas-Universal...0W-40K3110PW-50K3110PW-i.206473597.6592443936

 

[ferocity]

Wow thanks for the in-depth response!

I’m looking to future proof with this next purchase, so am looking for a 4k 120hz with HDMI 2.1 inputs…so the U7G doesn’t make the cut…

Was really hoping the U8H could gimme the specs I need for a budget, but looks like I should not take the risk with the IPS panel….any other models you think I can look at for this price point? Im looking for 65”…

For similar budget range to Hisense, TCL would be the alternative. But browsing through the TCL thread, it seems their models also come with their own slew of issues. Or if you have the budget for it, i would preach to really buy good buy one time and go for LG C1.

 

[bojio sia]

For similar budget range to Hisense, TCL would be the alternative. But browsing through the TCL thread, it seems their models also come with their own slew of issues. Or if you have the budget for it, i would preach to really buy good buy one time and go for LG C1.

I will agree but then again you win some lose some lor. I mean I can live with their issues and I think I have trust issues with IPS panel. With the glow and stuff

 

[Neetsognam]

Hisense models in asia (outside china) were closer to their european equivalent in last few years, so could wait to see reviews from europe. Saw on avforums that uled models in 2022 would be a mixture of IPS and VA panels, so maybe there are some sizes with VA. But could also be that asia is the unloved child and get all the unwanted panels . If it's the latter I really feel sorry for the local reps.