INTEL CPUs *OC Benchmark & Discussion*

[Griggs]

Any local pricing out yet?

 

[LiLAsN]

Any local pricing out yet?

As per normal, PC Themes has their pricing on display already.

 

[Griggs]

As per normal, PC Themes has their pricing on display already.

Wow thanks, quite strange that they don't have ddr5 TUF Gaming board, since that was the one I was considering.

 

[Yongkit]

 

[AZE]

Review roundup.
https://videocardz.com/140948/intel-13th-gen-core-raptor-lake-desktop-cpu-review-roundup

 

[AZE]

I doubt PL3 is the actual mode that is meant to be tested. They merely made PL1=PL2 which means max is 255W not 350W at PL3.

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/i...extreme-performance-mode-at-350-watt-tdp.html

https://edc.intel.com/content/www/u...heet-volume-1-of-2/001/package-power-control/

Power Limit 1 (PL1): A threshold for average power that will not exceed - recommend to set to equal Processor Base Power (a.k.a TDP). PL1 should not be set higher than thermal solution cooling limits.
Power Limit 2 (PL2): A threshold that if exceeded, the PL2 rapid power limiting algorithms will attempt to limit the spike above PL2.
Power Limit 3 (PL3): A threshold that if exceeded, the PL3 rapid power limiting algorithms will attempt to limit the duty cycle of spikes above PL3 by reactively limiting frequency. This is an optional setting

Don't think PL3 refers to the "extreme performance mode" per the original definition.

By default PL1 ish meant to support long term cooling solution limit.
PL2 ish meant to support short term burst limit for a specific duration.
If cooling permits, PL1 is able to = PL2, infinite time of PL2 operation is allowed and guaranteed.

"Unlimited Power" above PL2 ish technically speaking, overclocking and ish not warrantied.

 

[Koenig168]

As per normal, PC Themes has their pricing on display already.

Following AMD with inflated MB pricing

 

[ragnarok95]

AMD pricing is worse.

 

[ferocity]

Dynacore has an updated pricelist on their website with prices for the 13th gen. Was at their shop just 3 days ago wanting to get a full build from them but they had no stock for the gpu and psu i was looking for. Mobo was originally aiming for B660 MSI Tomahawk but now when i check the updated pricelist, a whole bunch of B660 mobos including the tomahawk are no longer listed, and instead are replaced by pricier Z790 boards. Non-overclockers and budget builders getting short end again.

 

[ragnarok95]

Currently 13000 gen release are K and KF. You won't want to pair with a B660 anyway.

 

[ferocity]

Like i said, 3 days ago so i wasn't even looking at 13th gen chips.

 

[ZergRush]

Currently 13000 gen release are K and KF. You won't want to pair with a B660 anyway.

Not necessary, like 12600 & 12600k core and thread count also differs. One can opt for 12600K and not overclock to gain boost over 12600.
Depends on 13600 non k specs

 

[Phen8210]

Not necessary, like 12600 & 12600k core and thread count also differs. One can opt for 12600K and not overclock to gain boost over 12600.
Depends on 13600 non k specs

Yeap, the only way to get that amount of cores and threads is by getting the K chip. The mindset that you must pair a K CPU with a Z board is a thing of the past. The non-k is a trap with reduced cores and threads, far from the same thing.

 

[Koenig168]

Looks like Intel has a winner with the i5-13600K

 

[KYZT2021]

intel 13th gen can be value king with DDR4

 

[Yongkit]

Yeap, the only way to get that amount of cores and threads is by getting the K chip. The mindset that you must pair a K CPU with a Z board is a thing of the past. The non-k is a trap with reduced cores and threads, far from the same thing.

This really interesting, any possibility that non k chip on z board outperform k chip and b board?

 

[stanlawj]

i think 13600k should be viable, 13700k also 100c in all core workload so lol

DDR5 still too expensive. Raptor lake needs DDR5 or it is just a waste of money pairing it with DDR4 (makes it slower like Alder Lake).

 

[ZergRush]

This really interesting, any possibility that non k chip on z board outperform k chip and b board?

No sane person will buy non k on Z variant board.

Depends on your budget. If u get 12600K with z690 and don't overclock, then the better response imo is to get 12700 with b660.
Why spend on better power phases and fancy features when Im lazy or not bothered to use it.

 

[ragnarok95]

Yeap, the only way to get that amount of cores and threads is by getting the K chip. The mindset that you must pair a K CPU with a Z board is a thing of the past. The non-k is a trap with reduced cores and threads, far from the same thing.

I believe for 13000- the non K and K have the same core counts. Of cos, will know when they are release next yr. But that is for the i5 anyway.

 

[Phen8210]

This really interesting, any possibility that non k chip on z board outperform k chip and b board?

For people looking at something between 12400 and 12700, one might think 12600 is the answer, but it's not. The cores n thread count is the same as 12400. Only the 12600k has performance that lies in between and no non-k does in that range.

The 12600 is an obvious bait to target people that are not aware. It may happen again for the 13th gen.

Honestly, if I paid for a Z board and paired it with a mid-tier processor, I might as well use the money for a higher-tier processor like 1X700 and pair it with a B board.

Then if I am a gamer chasing after every frame, I will just wait for 7800X3D.