Phen8210
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I believe for 13000- the non K and K have the same core counts. Of cos, will know when they are release next yr. But that is for the i5 anyway.
Hope so

I believe for 13000- the non K and K have the same core counts. Of cos, will know when they are release next yr. But that is for the i5 anyway.
No sane person will buy non k on Z variant board.
Depends on your budget. If u get 12600K with z690 and don't overclock, then the better response imo is to get 12700 with b660.
Why spend on better power phases and fancy features when Im lazy or not bothered to use it.
For people looking at something between 12400 and 12700, one might think 12600 is the answer, but it's not. The cores n thread count is the same as 12400. Only the 12600k has performance that lies in between and no non-k does in that range.
The 12600 is an obvious bait to target people that are not aware. It may happen again for the 13th gen.
Honestly, if I paid for a Z board and paired it with a mid-tier processor, I might as well use the money for a higher-tier processor like 1X700 and pair it with a B board.
Then if I am a gamer chasing after every frame, I will just wait for 7800X3D.
DDR5 still too expensive. Raptor lake needs DDR5 or it is just a waste of money pairing it with DDR4 (makes it slower like Alder Lake).
You're only tuning latency. The memory bandwidth is still less. This affects encoding speed and photo tasks (content creation workloads).not much performance loss if you tune ddr4 properly. you would need roughly 6800c30 ddr5 tuned to match 4000c14 G1 tuned performance in most games.
Clearly it's seems like the only viable option is one way for non k cpu towards motherboard selection in general and practical sense.
If given the option of both I always look for more I/O port, and storage expansion capabilities in consideration to reduce additional cost of 3rd party accessories with potential incompatible issue in long run.
yes you are correct on point to know what we need.Well, you have to know what you need.
Budget boards such as B550M Pro4 have a generous I/O. It comes with 4 x USB 3 Gen 1 + 2 x USB 3 Gen 2 (1 is USB-C) + 2 x USB 2.0. Although missing a front panel USB-C, most newer boards have that. On the Z series boards, the more generous ones can have up to 8 or 10 ports, while the rest are pretty much the same. For typical users, given 4-6 ports at the back is enough for them to have spares, I just happen to require 6 x USB 3 ports at the back, so I used that as an example.
Most boards also have 2x NVME slots. Get 2 large and reliable SSDs for doing your work, and once it's completed, dump it inside google unlimited cloud. No need to worry about storage expansion, upgrade, or health. You can also stream and seek video/music directly from any device without downloading the entire file as long as your internet doesn't bottleneck.
This is my use case for content creation and data archival.
I see 32GB ddr5-6000 on sale for $320+DDR5 still too expensive. Raptor lake needs DDR5 or it is just a waste of money pairing it with DDR4 (makes it slower like Alder Lake).
I checked with dynacore, they told me they have the board in stock.Dynacore has an updated pricelist on their website with prices for the 13th gen. Was at their shop just 3 days ago wanting to get a full build from them but they had no stock for the gpu and psu i was looking for. Mobo was originally aiming for B660 MSI Tomahawk but now when i check the updated pricelist, a whole bunch of B660 mobos including the tomahawk are no longer listed, and instead are replaced by pricier Z790 boards. Non-overclockers and budget builders getting short end again.
whats wrong with 13600k with b660?So the way to go now is 12700f w/ b660 or 13600k w/ z690?. Both on ddr4.
Isn't a waste for 13600k to be on b660 cannot tune the cpu even though can boost based on pl1 and pl2 ?.whats wrong with 13600k with b660?
the widely recommended msi b660 has good enough vrm to support 200w cpus
Not really, OCing the cpu doesn't yield much gain nowadays. If you really want to tune it would be the ram for better latency.Isn't a waste for 13600k to be on b660 cannot tune the cpu even though can boost based on pl1 and pl2 ?.
Went for 12700f with b660 tomahawk.Not really, OCing the cpu doesn't yield much gain nowadays. If you really want to tune it would be the ram for better latency.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-13600k/19.html
So... i5 13600k is the more bang for your buck choice?For people looking at something between 12400 and 12700, one might think 12600 is the answer, but it's not. The cores n thread count is the same as 12400. Only the 12600k has performance that lies in between and no non-k does in that range.
The 12600 is an obvious bait to target people that are not aware. It may happen again for the 13th gen.
Honestly, if I paid for a Z board and paired it with a mid-tier processor, I might as well use the money for a higher-tier processor like 1X700 and pair it with a B board.
Then if I am a gamer chasing after every frame, I will just wait for 7800X3D.
for now yes, especially against the 7600x.So... i5 13600k is the more bang for your buck choice?
13600kf same price as 12700f. What a weird choice. u wait for 13 gen come out then buy the worse partWent for 12700f with b660 tomahawk.
Went for 12700f with b660 tomahawk.
The 13600k actually outperforms the 12700fWent for 12700f with b660 tomahawk.
Yes, I thought when the 13th gen reviews are out, people would not bother with 12th gen.13600kf same price as 12700f. What a weird choice. u wait for 13 gen come out then buy the worse part