INTEL CPUs *OC Benchmark & Discussion*

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Yes. the 12600 and 12600K have diff core count. After phen told me i went to look last time. What a screw up move by intel.
 

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No sane person will buy non k on Z variant board.

Depends on your budget. If u get 12600K with z690 and don't overclock, then the better response imo is to get 12700 with b660.
Why spend on better power phases and fancy features when Im lazy or not bothered to use it.

For people looking at something between 12400 and 12700, one might think 12600 is the answer, but it's not. The cores n thread count is the same as 12400. Only the 12600k has performance that lies in between and no non-k does in that range.

The 12600 is an obvious bait to target people that are not aware. It may happen again for the 13th gen.

Honestly, if I paid for a Z board and paired it with a mid-tier processor, I might as well use the money for a higher-tier processor like 1X700 and pair it with a B board.

Then if I am a gamer chasing after every frame, I will just wait for 7800X3D.

Clearly it's seems like the only viable option is one way for non k cpu towards motherboard selection in general and practical sense.

If given the option of both I always look for more I/O port, and storage expansion capabilities in consideration to reduce additional cost of 3rd party accessories with potential incompatible issue in long run.
 

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DDR5 still too expensive. Raptor lake needs DDR5 or it is just a waste of money pairing it with DDR4 (makes it slower like Alder Lake).

not much performance loss if you tune ddr4 properly. you would need roughly 6800c30 ddr5 tuned to match 4000c14 G1 tuned performance in most games.
 

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not much performance loss if you tune ddr4 properly. you would need roughly 6800c30 ddr5 tuned to match 4000c14 G1 tuned performance in most games.
You're only tuning latency. The memory bandwidth is still less. This affects encoding speed and photo tasks (content creation workloads).
 
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Clearly it's seems like the only viable option is one way for non k cpu towards motherboard selection in general and practical sense.

If given the option of both I always look for more I/O port, and storage expansion capabilities in consideration to reduce additional cost of 3rd party accessories with potential incompatible issue in long run.

Well, you have to know what you need.

Budget boards such as B550M Pro4 have a generous I/O. It comes with 4 x USB 3 Gen 1 + 2 x USB 3 Gen 2 (1 is USB-C) + 2 x USB 2.0. Although missing a front panel USB-C, most newer boards have that. On the Z series boards, the more generous ones can have up to 8 or 10 ports, while the rest are pretty much the same. For typical users, given 4-6 ports at the back is enough for them to have spares, I just happen to require 6 x USB 3 ports at the back, so I used that as an example.

Most boards also have 2x NVME slots. Get 2 large and reliable SSDs for doing your work, and once it's completed, dump it inside google unlimited cloud. No need to worry about storage expansion, upgrade, or health. You can also stream and seek video/music directly from any device without downloading the entire file as long as your internet doesn't bottleneck.

This is my use case for content creation and data archival.
 

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Well, you have to know what you need.

Budget boards such as B550M Pro4 have a generous I/O. It comes with 4 x USB 3 Gen 1 + 2 x USB 3 Gen 2 (1 is USB-C) + 2 x USB 2.0. Although missing a front panel USB-C, most newer boards have that. On the Z series boards, the more generous ones can have up to 8 or 10 ports, while the rest are pretty much the same. For typical users, given 4-6 ports at the back is enough for them to have spares, I just happen to require 6 x USB 3 ports at the back, so I used that as an example.

Most boards also have 2x NVME slots. Get 2 large and reliable SSDs for doing your work, and once it's completed, dump it inside google unlimited cloud. No need to worry about storage expansion, upgrade, or health. You can also stream and seek video/music directly from any device without downloading the entire file as long as your internet doesn't bottleneck.

This is my use case for content creation and data archival.
yes you are correct on point to know what we need. :)

Although i think it could result in some confusion if using amd b series board without oc limitation compared to intel b board series with oc limitation.
 

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DDR5 still too expensive. Raptor lake needs DDR5 or it is just a waste of money pairing it with DDR4 (makes it slower like Alder Lake).
I see 32GB ddr5-6000 on sale for $320+
That's cheaper than what I paid for ddr4-3200 around 2 years ago
 

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Dynacore has an updated pricelist on their website with prices for the 13th gen. Was at their shop just 3 days ago wanting to get a full build from them but they had no stock for the gpu and psu i was looking for. Mobo was originally aiming for B660 MSI Tomahawk but now when i check the updated pricelist, a whole bunch of B660 mobos including the tomahawk are no longer listed, and instead are replaced by pricier Z790 boards. Non-overclockers and budget builders getting short end again.
I checked with dynacore, they told me they have the board in stock.
 

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For people looking at something between 12400 and 12700, one might think 12600 is the answer, but it's not. The cores n thread count is the same as 12400. Only the 12600k has performance that lies in between and no non-k does in that range.

The 12600 is an obvious bait to target people that are not aware. It may happen again for the 13th gen.

Honestly, if I paid for a Z board and paired it with a mid-tier processor, I might as well use the money for a higher-tier processor like 1X700 and pair it with a B board.

Then if I am a gamer chasing after every frame, I will just wait for 7800X3D.
So... i5 13600k is the more bang for your buck choice?
 

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Went for 12700f with b660 tomahawk.
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