iPhone 12 Series

[ragnarok95]

Ye for show only for now.

 

[Conan1986]

Why not? The processor is more than capable. Just get a powerbank for times you need the battery

processor is definitely more than capable. but if one use it to game a lot, it'll just drain the battery down on on a very regular basis, maybe even up to 2 or even 3 recharges per day, which in turn means shorter battery lifespan

gamers usually prefer bigger screen for added advantage in precision and general awareness of on screen details.. the whole gaming experience is also almost always better with bigger screens..

of course if casual gaming then mini might suffice.. at the end of the day, everyone has their own justification of why they want a specific size.. just note the shortcoming and don't buy already regret..

 

[ragnarok95]

2-3 charges per day doesn't really mean a shorter battery lifespan. And if one always game using their phone might want to consider getting a game pad so your fingers won't be blocking the display.

End of the day, 12 mini can still game, just depend on the game you are playing and how long you intend to play. If you are a gamer on phone, then i would suggest getting the 12 pro max. It will give a better gaming experience than the 12 mini.

 

[wwh5210]

Hi, just join the iPhone community few days ago.

I am facing one problem with my WhatsApp notification. My WhatsApp notification always shows "Incoming voice Call..." for ALL types of notifications. I have reset both my WhatsApp and notification options but problem remains. Anyone encountered this kind of issue before?

 

[Conan1986]

2-3 charges per day doesn't really mean a shorter battery lifespan. And if one always game using their phone might want to consider getting a game pad so your fingers won't be blocking the display.

End of the day, 12 mini can still game, just depend on the game you are playing and how long you intend to play. If you are a gamer on phone, then i would suggest getting the 12 pro max. It will give a better gaming experience than the 12 mini.

2 - 3 charges a day will directly impact battery lifespan.. I'm talking about battery longevity during ownership, not daily battery life even though daily battery life is directly linked to battery lifespan and capacity over time. remember all lithium batteries have a limited recharge cycle..

 

[waterballoon]

2 - 3 charges a day will directly impact battery lifespan.. I'm talking about battery longevity during ownership, not daily battery life even though daily battery life is directly linked to battery lifespan and capacity over time. remember all lithium batteries have a limited recharge cycle..

actually it depends. charging 2-3 times a day so long the battery level is between 30-80% it actually still is quite okay. the worst of the worst treatment to battery is to let it die.

 

[Conan1986]

actually it depends. charging 2-3 times a day so long the battery level is between 30-80% it actually still is quite okay. the worst of the worst treatment to battery is to let it die.

charging to 80% will also accumulate the charge cycle based on the frequency of getting it from say 20% to 80%, just that instead of counting as 1 cycle straight away, it takes about 2 charges to get to 1 cycle.

the fact is that bigger batteries in the bigger phones will need to be recharged less in the same use case as compared to smaller sized battery, which leads to difference in recharge cycle and lifespan..

 

[ragnarok95]

2 - 3 charges a day will directly impact battery lifespan.. I'm talking about battery longevity during ownership, not daily battery life even though daily battery life is directly linked to battery lifespan and capacity over time. remember all lithium batteries have a limited recharge cycle..

That you have to ask yourself. How long are you going to own your current phone? 4-5 yrs? If yes, then battery replacement is high on your list, doesn't matter what phones you are using. If 1-2 yrs only, it shouldn't have much impact on your battery lifespan. I charge my phone > 5 times a day and the battery lifespan is great even over a yr close to 2. One shouldn't be worried about doing too many charges per day.

 

[kashix]

Beware 18w won’t give you the 15w for MagSafe if you’re into that

Screw MagSafe. I’m not interested in that. Hahaha

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[runforyourlife]

All talk until batt got prob if charge several times.

iPhones never had drastic apple leak issues one lo

 

[wisewise]

2 - 3 charges a day will directly impact battery lifespan.. I'm talking about battery longevity during ownership, not daily battery life even though daily battery life is directly linked to battery lifespan and capacity over time. remember all lithium batteries have a limited recharge cycle..

just charge when u need, just use when u like...
life have much more stuff to stress over, battery life cycle and longevity should not be one of your priority.

 

[porky_88]

one of the best benefit of apple devices is "cheap" battery replacement.
so don't lose sleep over battery issues

however a few habits does preserve battery lifespan

1) battery is most stressed in fully depleted or charged state.
so ideally never let it stay in fully discharged or fully charge state.
- i typical charge in the morning from 20%+ to 80%+ (charging over night not really good for battery as it stays in 100% state for quite a while)
- i do a short 15mins top up in the evening if needed

2) heat deteriorates battery condition
fast charging really heats up battery (no i am not interested at magsafe at all)
- i use fast charging from 18W apple charger only when needed. also fast charging from pd powerbank is where i use fast charging most. else i AVOID fast charging if i have time.
- best charging time and heat balance from apple 10w/12w chargers from the ipad. the 5V 2.4A charging is relatively fast and phone barely heats up. this is my preferred charging

my 11pro battery health is at 96% after a year.
the worst battery health on apple device is from my ip7 with apple battery case. cos the battery case keeps the ip7 battery at 100% for prolonged periods of time. it is on it's 2nd battery change (3rd battery since new) in 4 short years!

 

[ragnarok95]

If a battery capacity is small, you will need more charges. Nothing much you can do about it too.

 

[porky_88]

If a battery capacity is small, you will need more charges. Nothing much you can do about it too.

actually not true. there is a gap in your logic
small battery capacity != more charges

small phone will typically have smaller battery as available space is an engineering constrain. but because it is small. the phone is just a phone.
the phone is not a phone+tablet+laptop

make sense bo? you need to take into account usage models

 

[crystalnox]

charging to 80% will also accumulate the charge cycle based on the frequency of getting it from say 20% to 80%, just that instead of counting as 1 cycle straight away, it takes about 2 charges to get to 1 cycle.

the fact is that bigger batteries in the bigger phones will need to be recharged less in the same use case as compared to smaller sized battery, which leads to difference in recharge cycle and lifespan..

The reason for keeping it between 30%~80% is not about the charge cycles. It’s about lithium batteries experiencing more stress when in a fully charged or discharged state, so you’re keeping it within its comfortable range by not going to either ends of the charge %. That is also why Apple introduced their optimised charging feature that keeps batteries at 80% until needed.

 

[ragnarok95]

actually not true. there is a gap in your logic
small battery capacity != more charges

small phone will typically have smaller battery as available space is an engineering constrain. but because it is small. the phone is just a phone.
the phone is not a phone+tablet+laptop

make sense bo? you need to take into account usage models

Yes so one shouldn't be surprise they have to charge a few time with their usage pattern.

 

[cnt]

one of the best benefit of apple devices is "cheap" battery replacement.
so don't lose sleep over battery issues

however a few habits does preserve battery lifespan

1) battery is most stressed in fully depleted or charged state.
so ideally never let it stay in fully discharged or fully charge state.
- i typical charge in the morning from 20%+ to 80%+ (charging over night not really good for battery as it stays in 100% state for quite a while)
- i do a short 15mins top up in the evening if needed

2) heat deteriorates battery condition
fast charging really heats up battery (no i am not interested at magsafe at all)
- i use fast charging from 18W apple charger only when needed. also fast charging from pd powerbank is where i use fast charging most. else i AVOID fast charging if i have time.
- best charging time and heat balance from apple 10w/12w chargers from the ipad. the 5V 2.4A charging is relatively fast and phone barely heats up. this is my preferred charging

my 11pro battery health is at 96% after a year.
the worst battery health on apple device is from my ip7 with apple battery case. cos the battery case keeps the ip7 battery at 100% for prolonged periods of time. it is on it's 2nd battery change (3rd battery since new) in 4 short years!

My 11 pro is 100% after 1 year. I charge using wireless overnight.

 

[porky_88]

My 11 pro is 100% after 1 year. I charge using wireless overnight.

you power! 7.5W Qi charger? aircon? must learn your technic ... lol

 

[Conan1986]

The reason for keeping it between 30%~80% is not about the charge cycles. It’s about lithium batteries experiencing more stress when in a fully charged or discharged state, so you’re keeping it within its comfortable range by not going to either ends of the charge %. That is also why Apple introduced their optimised charging feature that keeps batteries at 80% until needed.

that is correct, but what is being discussed is not about the >80% and <20% effects on a battery but the fact that a smaller battery in the 12 mini will result in higher charge cycle when we compare the exact same usage pattern..

like many pointed out, there are more important things to worry about, my opinion is to not get the mini if one tends to game more as it will generally lead to mediocre battery life and longevity, which means more battery replacement or earlier phone replacement, which is not something one should be concerned about on a yearly/bi-yearly basis unless he/she is interested to upgrade yearly

 

[KeYoKe]

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