Iphone Cheat

[aaur4man]

is it possible he has a counterpart in sg who knows more details about what goes on here.

 

[icebergfish]

is it possible he has a counterpart in sg who knows more details about what goes on here.

Maybe. I think at least he is familiar with Singapore culture and neighborhood circumstances. But, in terms of professional conman, we can't presume much as they alway have something to surprise us. The only stand for marketplace purchase is COD and other option is non-negotiable.

 

[icebergfish]

i think for such device would be better to do a meet up and buy it locally.

Yes. That is my initial intention but at that time, I'm going to be out of town and urge to get it settle before leaving. Therefore, it is my fault that let the conman has chances to take. Truthfully, I don't mind he cheated my money but I'm quite disappointed that someone would use his mother or family as part of the scam. This is something that really can't be tolerate.

 

[sknet.tech]

whats happen with www.apple.com site? too expensive? why u guys looking something like 100$ cheaper and more ma-fan ma?

ipad/iphone is branded by apple and apple has its own store....why buy from someone who does not hold any apple brand at all?

 

[cybercom8]

have all the "victims" realised that its precisely because you let the scammer get away with it in the past that he/she has continued to scam lotsa folks since then??

get off your butt and nail the bugger! with so much info, it cannot be too difficult to nail him. get all the victims together to make a police report together so that the men in blue knows its machiam a syndicate at work and over an extended period of time.

 

[icebergfish]

whats happen with apple site? too expensive? why u guys looking something like 100$ cheaper and more ma-fan ma?

ipad/iphone is branded by apple and apple has its own store....why buy from someone who does not hold any apple brand at all?

From the past, I never bought anything from HWZ marketplace without COD as the condition of the item has to be verify before making the payment. For Apple product, I usually buy from authorised retailer unless it is unavailable in Singapore. This is the one and only time that got me conned as I'm too rushing and emotionally involved during the whole process. Hope my case can be the last one happens but never will. So, just to provide info about the scam to warn others about it. The guy (icedwhitechock) had closed its ads already and maybe using a new id to deceive others. So be careful then.

 

[icebergfish]

have all the "victims" realised that its precisely because you let the scammer get away with it in the past that he/she has continued to scam lotsa folks since then??

get off your butt and nail the bugger! with so much info, it cannot be too difficult to nail him. get all the victims together to make a police report together so that the men in blue knows its machiam a syndicate at work and over an extended period of time.

I had made a police report yesterday already. Nailing that guy down is not easy as due to the grey zone across borders and he knows well about it. For example, the case of the delivery receipt of Air21. Upon receiving this receipt, if you give Air21 a call, the operator will tell you to check the tracking number the next day. If still invalid, they will ask you to check again. This process just continue and they won't tell you that the delivery receipt is real or not. This is the grey zone that the conman used. In addition, the free mail issue like Gmail, yahoo or MSN. The procedure for getting the IP address of the conman is tedious even for the police. This is due to the legal issue involved in privacy policy. So, this is another grey zone. There is so much grey zones in the internet that make it difficult to track this kind of scam. The only way is preventive measures and educating more people about it by providing more information that is easily search-able. Someday, there maybe someone that able to come out with a solution to resolve this type of scamming.

From my case, there's a lot of loopholes that can catch the tail of the conman like collecting money from Western Union (Cebu, Philippines), voice-over-IP call on Friday, phone number, etc. With some efforts (cross-borders, internet expert, etc) made, it is possible to track him down. This is due to he is a conman but is not a professional hacker therefore it is impossible for him to remove all footprint online.

Just my 2cent!

 

[Vynn]

2 victims down.. Hm..

Since he registered a nick here in HWZ, why not ask help from HWZ..? IPs, etc..

 

[icebergfish]

In addition, I think the conman has been targeting Singaporeans in many SG sites for several years. He had made enormous efforts to learn about Singapore culture and circumstances therefore I think he will continue this scamming till he got caught someday. This is the usual case for conman that thinks he is smart enough or lucky enough to keep a living with this method. If possible, those that got conned may like to share your story. Once there's enough cases, a website can be setup to consolidate all the case studies that targeting this guy for people to reference. I think this effort may help some ways.

 

[icebergfish]

2 victims down.. Hm..

Since he registered a nick here in HWZ, why not ask help from HWZ..? IPs, etc..

I think with the help of HWZ, you can only get info like IP address, OS, screen estate, etc. These info is not enough and the HWZ marketplace system is not catered for this purpose. It is just a basic listing system that connect Seller and Buyer. Preventing scam through online system is a major re-development effort and will cost a lot of money (not a profitable decision in terms of business decision) therefore even you tell HWZ, they can do nothing but tell you to be careful next time.

 

[blazingfield]

ok first of all for any purchases above a hundred dollars, ALWAYS, ALWAYS make sure its a face to face transaction with no deposit beforehand. if they can't be bothered to spend an hour of their time travelling to meet you to earn a few hundred dollars then alarm bells should be ringing like siao inside your mind already. don't be blinded by the supposed bargains u think u're getting. 10 years ago when i was 20 years old i also got scammed of few hundred dollars ever since then i wised up and nowadays anything above a hundred, unless its a ebay transaction (with buyer protection) otherwise i always insist on a meetup.

its a harsh lesson, and i can imagine the anguish you feel about being conned but make sure its the only time don't make the same mistake again and again.

as for this scammer quite obvious he's not living in singapore will be quite hard to get him

 

[icebergfish]

ok first of all for any purchases above a hundred dollars, ALWAYS, ALWAYS make sure its a face to face transaction with no deposit beforehand. if they can't be bothered to spend an hour of their time travelling to meet you to earn a few hundred dollars then alarm bells should be ringing like siao inside your mind already. don't be blinded by the supposed bargains u think u're getting. 10 years ago when i was 20 years old i also got scammed of few hundred dollars ever since then i wised up and nowadays anything above a hundred, unless its a ebay transaction (with buyer protection) otherwise i always insist on a meetup.

its a harsh lesson, and i can imagine the anguish you feel about being conned but make sure its the only time don't make the same mistake again and again.

as for this scammer quite obvious he's not living in singapore will be quite hard to get him

Yes ... It is quite a disappointing event and make me feel I'm quite stupid and naive. But, I will still continue to make online purchase despite this fraud event but will be very cautious with it to ensure the same mistake won't happen again. If more people is educated, the conman will have no chance to take and they will be force to change their job scope toward a new direction. Hopefully, it is a good and right direction for them. Scamming is not a good karma. Think twice before you do it.

 

[TonyStark]

******* *******! someone CSI him out i will wack his face! pm me.

 

[furyoo]

Nick is 100% Singaporean, because I know him from uni days. He has no accent at all. And he lives in Taipei now. So it doesn't add up. He's dealt in HWZ a couple of times before also in the past, with no issues. Likely that he's a victim of the scam also.

I've just left him a message on his phone to tell him of this thread (hopefully the old number still works).

In the meantime, can the TS please remove his details? Not very nice la.

 

[icebergfish]

Nick is 100% Singaporean, because I know him from uni days. He has no accent at all. And he lives in Taipei now. So it doesn't add up. He's dealt in HWZ a couple of times before also in the past, with no issues. Likely that he's a victim of the scam also.

I've just left him a message on his phone to tell him of this thread (hopefully the old number still works).

In the meantime, can the TS please remove his details? Not very nice la.

I think the NRIC is a fake one as I had examined the image and it seem to be modified using photo editing software like photoshop. But, the name should be real (Nicholas Ng or Ng Nicholas) or at least the conman need a similar fake identity card as the conman needs the same name to get money from the Western Union. If so, this can be a serious case for your friend and he should make a police report immediately.

Today, I had received an email from Air21 (Freight company) and they told me that the delivery receipt has several loopholes. One of the most obvious thing is Air21 don't have international shipment and they do domestic shipment only. International shipment is done by FedEx not Air21. If this is the case, the chance of the conman is living in Philippines can be quite high as his scam can't trick the locals due to Air21 is quite a popular freight company there.

Lastly, what info you need to remove from the posting? If it is part of my posting, I can remove it as long as the essence of the scam details are search-able by the search engine.

Hope the above helps.

 

[furyoo]

I was referring to the original post accusing him of being a conman and then having his personal details leaked out. When people read this thread they'll prob read the first and last few posts and come to wrong idea.

But I think it's also fair to warn others that someone is conning people in his name. Quite sad la, like a lose lose situation cos everywhere you go sure got people curse your name, whether fairly or not.

 

[rogertan]

The guy is back to con ppl using ipad 2. My fren nearly kena the same **** from this guy.

 

[TonyStark]

any info on this guy?

 

[jq75]

We shld repost this in most trading, buy and sell sections of this forum, esp edmw( fastest moving section)

We'll then trace his movement in this forum. Obviously this con man also know the popularity of this forum. And managed to catch some fish from here!

 

[xaiver0510]

I was referring to the original post accusing him of being a conman and then having his personal details leaked out. When people read this thread they'll prob read the first and last few posts and come to wrong idea.

But I think it's also fair to warn others that someone is conning people in his name. Quite sad la, like a lose lose situation cos everywhere you go sure got people curse your name, whether fairly or not.

pm a mod to ask for help in removal of details.
if there is a case of identity theft also, police maybe more interested