Is it really over for Intel®?

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MORA-420 external, 2x 360 and 2x 240 rads internally, with triple D5 pumps to keep things flowing.

Iceman Direct Die with conductonaut, Iceman D5 ram block with KPX paste and fujipoly pads. VRM heatsinks chromed and using TG Minus Pad 8.

@xtractor here ya go...haven't updated my bios due to lack of time OC profile 62x pcore single thread, 60x pcore all core, 47ecore @ 1.43v for ST and 1.36v for MT. Daily is 60x ST, 58x all core, 46 ecore, 51x ring. 8000c34 for ram, fully tightened. Using loadline that doesn't droop much, so i don't have to push crazy high voltage for light load.

Updating bios is usually fast and painless but finding the right voltages again to dial in my OC to be fully stable will take some time, as i usually stress test several softwares for awhile to make sure everything is running smooth and to expectations. Plus usually there's the itch to push the ram a bit more but I am at the edge of what's possible with this ITX board. Apex and and the asrock lightning can push 8800 stable supposedly...but too lazy to start chasing boards again to push the setup. When i find the time i will update bios, or maybe wait for more updates to roll out for it to be fully stable.

Hopefully the new chips would do well and have better ram tech to continue pushing. One day we will see 10,000c38 perhaps haha. But for now, no GAS. Will keep a lookout for the 9800x3d as well, don't mind jumping ship as long as it's the fastest. Seems like AMD infiinity fabric still the biggest limitation, and that's quite important when playing in RTX. AMD chips can handle 8000+ speeds but no point if the interconnect is so slow. No benefit in games.

how much u spend for ur Mo-RA set up?
OC @ 6Ghz that is so nice

 

[Phen8210]

@kimsix is this you

Shareholders sued Intel, alleging the Silicon Valley company fraudulently concealed business issues which led to weak results, job cuts and dividend suspension

 

[m0n0n0ke]

hope intel dont die AMD will monopolized

 

[kimsix]

@kimsix is this you

Shareholders sued Intel, alleging the Silicon Valley company fraudulently concealed business issues which led to weak results, job cuts and dividend suspension

I trust in Pat. Shareholder suing is amdk usa thing

 

[Phen8210]

sad intel, so much support still end up like this

 

[xtractor]

after a few days of tweaking and configuring the bios setting
this is the best result that i can ever achieve
Had to reduce the Clock speed from 5.5 to 5.4 but improve in performance and also in Cinebench single core score

 

[elmariachi]

after a few days of tweaking and configuring the bios setting
this is the best result that i can ever achieve
Had to reduce the Clock speed from 5.5 to 5.4 but improve in performance and also in Cinebench single core score

Probably clock stretching slightly with your previous setting. Your Vcore and Vid is close so it's pretty optimal given your board is socket sense. Socket sense probes the socket, so it’s basically the last voltage you read before it enters the CPU. As such, it will not be what the CPU is actually working off.

 

[XcoVar]

In a recent development, SoftBank Group Corp. (OTC:SFTBY) has hit a snag in its plans to produce an artificial intelligence (AI) chip that could rival Nvidia Corp. (NASDAQ:NVDA). The Japanese conglomerate's negotiations with Intel Corp. (NASDAQ:INTC) have reportedly collapsed due to Intel's failure to meet SoftBank's production demands.

What Happened: SoftBank had been banking on Intel's manufacturing prowess, along with the chip designs of its subsidiary, Arm, and its latest acquisition, Graphcore, to develop a competitive AI chip. However, the talks fell through ahead of Intel's announcement of sweeping cost-cutting measures and significant layoffs in early August, Financial Times reported on Thursday.

 

[Phen8210]

In a recent development, SoftBank Group Corp. (OTC:SFTBY) has hit a snag in its plans to produce an artificial intelligence (AI) chip that could rival Nvidia Corp. (NASDAQ:NVDA). The Japanese conglomerate's negotiations with Intel Corp. (NASDAQ:INTC) have reportedly collapsed due to Intel's failure to meet SoftBank's production demands.

What Happened: SoftBank had been banking on Intel's manufacturing prowess, along with the chip designs of its subsidiary, Arm, and its latest acquisition, Graphcore, to develop a competitive AI chip. However, the talks fell through ahead of Intel's announcement of sweeping cost-cutting measures and significant layoffs in early August, Financial Times reported on Thursday.

https://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/tech-news-intel-sells-arm-shares-cost-cutting-efforts

Intel is offloading its entire 1.18 million shares in Arm, raising around US$147 million.

The tech giant is struggling with significant financial challenges, and the sale forms part of a broader strategy to shore up cash reserves as it battles to stabilise its shaky financial footing.

Intel’s divestment in Arm comes against the backdrop of a broader sell-off. The company has also liquidated its stake in cybersecurity firm ZeroFox and reduced its holdings in Astera Labs, a company that plays an important role in connectivity platforms for enterprise hardware.

However, the US$147 million from the Arm sale barely puts a dent in Intel’s wider financial woes. Earlier, it reported a US$120 million net loss on its equity investments for the quarter, contributing to a staggering US$1.6 billion overall loss. It’s a rather grim picture of Intel’s current situation, where cash is king, and even strategic investments are on the chopping block.

The broader context for these divestments is Intel’s ongoing financial struggle, which was thrown into sharp relief earlier this month when the company’s earnings report sent its stock plummeting by 33%, wiping out billions in market value. In a bid to stem the bleeding, Intel is also cutting 15,000 jobs and has taken the drastic step of suspending its dividend.

Intel is not just trimming the fat – it is conserving every dollar now, and it’s clear that tough choices are being made

 

[congster2]

Intel will be fine. The mad rush for gpu chips due to genAI will blow over. GenAI is good tech but also overrated.

 

[watzup_ken]

Intel will be fine. The mad rush for gpu chips due to genAI will blow over. GenAI is good tech but also overrated.

In my opinion, Intel's biggest problem is not so much their products. Companies will from time to time produce bad products. Intel's greatest issue now is the trust in the brand that is greatly eroded from the way they mishandled the Raptor Lake issue.

The next big problem in my opinion is the over aggressive foundry expansion. Besides trying to tap on the CHIPs funding, Intel also went around Europe to try an secure funds to build or expand Intel foundry. And we need to remember that the likes of TSMC, Samsung, GF, etc, are also aggressively expanding. While these fabs are mostly not online, but I think down the road you will see a sudden increase in supply without the demand. I believe Intel fabs are probably at a cost disadvantage since they are mostly based in western nations. Which in turn makes them less desirable.

 

[keith]

The next big problem in my opinion is the over aggressive foundry expansion. Besides trying to tap on the CHIPs funding, Intel also went around Europe to try an secure funds to build or expand Intel foundry. And we need to remember that the likes of TSMC, Samsung, GF, etc, are also aggressively expanding. While these fabs are mostly not online, but I think down the road you will see a sudden increase in supply without the demand. I believe Intel fabs are probably at a cost disadvantage since they are mostly based in western nations. Which in turn makes them less desirable.

perhaps the fear that some GREAT nation(s) have is the inability to produce the next black gold domestically. And the close proximity of TSMC(TW) to CN, and the daily risks of Winnie flying over, is a very real risk to the TW pple, and some others alike.

so couple all these together, who can the GREAT nation(s) can place their domestic (Logic) maker bet on?
Not that many choice (read as singular) left.

so with 1 student in class.. you will always be the top scholar...

 

[Phen8210]

Yeah, expanding is one thing, producing results is another, and harming the trust of your stakeholders is the last thing you want to do.

 

[12122012]

 

[watzup_ken]

Yeah, expanding is one thing, producing results is another, and harming the trust of your stakeholders is the last thing you want to do.

1 thing we can be sure though, and that is Intel will never be able to go back to those "golden age" again where they reign supreme. They sat on their success for too long, and paying the price now. I think their ability to hang in there really depends on the next 2 generations of products. Arrow and Lunar Lake are going to be a make or break for them. I feel TSMC's node may help them to a large extend, but once they transition back to their own foundry with Panther Lake, it will surely draw a lot of comparison in terms of foundry quality.

 

[swathe]

Intel didn't learn well from Nokia

 

[keith]

worst case, would be for them to divest the foundry side of the family.

 

[Phen8210]

Intel didn't learn well from Nokia

comparing with nokia??! wow be careful there you will make some people really upset

 

[stanlawj]

uh no... I think Intel is gone case. No more innovation in CPU core design. Just the same old ones.

 

[kimsix]

wow next time buy snapdragon i9+ gen4 390. It is over for Intel overclocking

SAN FRANCISCO/NEW YORK, Sept 5 (Reuters) - Qualcomm (QCOM.O), opens new tab has explored the possibility of acquiring portions of Intel's (INTC.O), opens new tab design business to boost the company's product portfolio, according to two sources familiar with the matter.
The mobile chipmaker has examined acquiring different pieces of Intel, which is struggling to generate cash and looking to shed business units and sell off other assets, the people said.
Intel’s client PC design business is of significant interest to Qualcomm executives, one of the sources said, but they are looking at all of the company’s design units.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/...-chip-design-business-sources-say-2024-09-06/