No binning needed. In fact many non-top tier module house kits are "downbinned". Plus sponsored overclockers will take the best cut, top bin sold with RGB and top dollar forced on. Apart from top bin, do the tRFC test and run it in the 480 range, there's a good chance it will crap out. Once you disassemble the heat sink, its non-reversible unlike OEMs.
8000+ H24M will all be quite decent for daily tune tbh. New 6000c26 kits are hit and miss, at least on AMD. They do require lower voltages though. Gskill has been putting our CKD and non CKD variants of 6000c26 kits, with different PCB variants as well, but supposedly they all require less voltage than older sticks. One thing that's good is that better binned D5 is not as expensive now.
. Quad M2 on ITX is sick though.
Very impressive tuning.Definitely sic when build is ready, HWZ not an arms race/epeen forum like OCN. SG DIY space many are too "safe" in the name of warranty void when we're way past the C2D and Phenom black era. Don't let the fanboys soil the SG tech discussion environment. The info, timings, ss users share are worth time and money, and time is not free.
Here's my old ss on RAMs, but older system though. Very good that RAM MHz is going up, but I had good latency numbers on a 7.2L ITX, I test at 60-65C PMIC for RAMs because it is a toaster. Borrowing waifu/gf hairdryer is a good way to make RAM temps hit steady state target temp within a minute.
Edit: from non-CKD AGBD your only upgrade path is AHBD, naked DIMMs or module house.
Definitely sic when build is ready, HWZ not an arms race/epeen forum like OCN. SG DIY space many are too "safe" in the name of warranty void when we're way past the C2D and Phenom black era. Don't let the fanboys soil the SG tech discussion environment. The info, timings, ss users share are worth time and money, and time is not free.
Here's my old ss on RAMs, but older system though. Very good that RAM MHz is going up, but I had good latency numbers on a 7.2L ITX, I test at 60-65C PMIC for RAMs because it is a toaster. Borrowing waifu/gf hairdryer is a good way to make RAM temps hit steady state target temp within a minute.
Edit: from non-CKD AGBD your only upgrade path is AHBD, naked DIMMs or module house.
No idea, I just followed and learn the efficiency optimized style of tuning sic'd by tibcsi and veii on OCN. Veii occasionally quotes or shares documents/papers from JEDEC or JEDEC members etc that has an influence on his tuning style. My 8000MT/s profile was achieved on Jan 2023 when MSI released the major BIOS update that brought in many missing controls like Ring Downbin and more advanced dram training algo access to users, never made a better tune since apart from replicating what worked or scaled it to 48/96GB.
Oh no, the veii cult haha. Just cross reference with others; sometimes his posts might be a bit off tangent. For high temp testing, I refer to Madness, though he doesn't post much on OCN. Does so on private discordNo idea, I just followed and learn the efficiency optimized style of tuning sic'd by tibcsi and veii on OCN. Veii occasionally quotes or shares documents/papers from JEDEC or JEDEC members etc that has an influence on his tuning style. My 8000MT/s profile was achieved on Jan 2023 when MSI released the major BIOS update that brought in many missing controls like Ring Downbin and more advanced dram training algo access to users, never made a better tune since apart from replicating what worked or scaled it to 48/96GB.
But this style of tuning is definitely more temperature tolerant, i've seen even 5600-~6000 C26 or so high temp tolerant profiles (tested above 75C PMIC) from users like carsalesman etc also influenced by veii posts. But to me maxed tREFI is something cool that I can't reach, since it needs fantastic cooling.
. Like ROG Crosshair + stilt/elmor.Is Veii an employee for Asrock or something? he made a special fix for latency bug in Z890 OCF bios.
My OCF and 8800 Cudimm just arrive in SG maybe delivery tomorrow.
Note to everyone: Thermaltake Tower 600 claims to fit 420mm radiator, it doesn't. Got the Arctic Freezer 420 it don't fit by width, it don't fit by length and it also don't fit by height. Had to DIY modify to make it fit. Now the bottom mesh filter won't close
