jogging and motivation thread

[LWZ]

I forgot what is the healthy range for BMI, 20 ton 23? I think just aim at the healthy range will do. No need be like pro runners who are under 20 for BMI. I think it's not healthy and we are not professional to justify for such extreme.

AIA Vitality defines it as below 23. I missed it by 1.5kg during my health screening yesterday

 

[Ender]

Take care. Im your opposite - doc suspect I might have borderline hypothyroidism. Now pending a 2nd blood test to confirm haizzzz

You take care too. Galen Rupp, an elite marathoner and others elite runners are also hypothyroidism. If it is mild, can still exercise and perform. Just hope you don't have to take meds to boost the thyroids numbers.

 

[galvin]

Lost 32.9kg in 3 years from jogging on a treadmill everyday

 

[Ender]

Lost 32.9kg in 3 years from jogging on a treadmill everyday

Impressive. Your hard work paid off.

 

[xllms]

High fat % too of 27.9% during recent medical report 2 months ago. I think I can run only cause I have stamina from being long distance swimmer in school from sec 1 to Jc 2

yah your foundation is there.
i have a french friend who is in his 60s, used to ski long distance competitively in his teens, he is running at 5+min/km av effortlessly now without training, plenty of vapping, cigars, good food and plenty of alcohol.

 

[Ender]

do note that there are many looks and fitting are exactly the same imitations in the market. my fake new balance 1080v13 is a great example at less than RMB300.

Are you convince that your 1080v13 is fake and not a factory stolen goods or rejects? The look and probably the feel can't tell.
Was thinking of getting a novablast 3 from china to try. About $65 only and hoping they are rejects from the factory.

 

[Jeremy1]

Of coz different people different body types, so different body fat percentages. Some people would have more muscles coz they strength train or maybe if they are after calisthenics then it would not be good.....BMI 24 is actually pretty normal.
But generally it's good to lose weight (more specifically body fat %) if we are talking about sports like running / cycling etc. Actually that is also true for most cases from a general health perspective esp if the bulk of that fat is concentrated in the mid section for us males. (your arms / legs might be thin)

Losing weight is quite easy for me ever since I started exercising everyday after retired.

I had been losing 10kg since starting of last year August and Iif I wanted to bring my weight from 75kg to 70kg is no problem at all but just that I had been taking some late night snack lately while watching Kdrama.

But losing body fat is not easy. Your weight can dropped but the body fat will stay or drop very little as I had a weighing machine at home for monitoring.

 

[Jeremy1]

Are you convince that your 1080v13 is fake and not a factory stolen goods or rejects? The look and probably the feel can't tell.
Was thinking of getting a novablast 3 from china to try. About $65 only and hoping they are rejects from the factory.

I love my 1080 V13. I can walked forever as the cushioning is soft.

It's made in Vietnam.

 

[Jeremy1]

I forgot what is the healthy range for BMI, 20 ton 23? I think just aim at the healthy range will do. No need be like pro runners who are under 20 for BMI. I think it's not healthy and we are not professional to justify for such extreme.

Good question, as what I know BMI got 2.

Base on Singapore Heart Foundation, your normal BMI should be between 18.5 and 22.9kg/m2.

But base on WHO, it's between 18.5 and 24.9kg/m2 for normal.

 

[Jeremy1]

starting to pick up running again recently. any recommendations on running shoes? i currently running with adidas ultraboost but the soles starting to fall off. im looking for shoes that are light and my budget is under $300

Not really into Adidas as I tried their boston 12 but find the mid sole firmer.

Since you're wearing Adidas, you might want to consider the ADIZERO TAKUMI SEN 10. It's super light and I think you might like it.

Fyi

https://irunsg.com/products/adizero-takumi-sen-10-mens-green-spark-ig3134

 

[Kuudere]

Seems like she is good in middle distances. Either that or i luckier with 5k, 10k.



Issue is quite evident in cycling, cant climb for nuts, eg sentosa. Dont even mention Mount Faber or what. Need to crawl in gear 1. Extra weight quite terok.
But slowly improve for him lah.....coz in a few years NS liao, so it's about time.

She still young, haven't convert to the 5k yet. Her intervals are probably 400s/200s, high speed (low 1.20s average or maybe even 1.20-1.21). 5k, ideally have to go for 800s and above.

And that doesn't matter much, since school competitions don't make her run beyond 4k+. Eventually, will get better as she scales up to longer distances.

High fat % too of 27.9% during recent medical report 2 months ago. I think I can run only cause I have stamina from being long distance swimmer in school from sec 1 to Jc 2

Swimming definitely favours heavier body composition compared to running. When I used to swim as a kid competitively, there were quite a number of bigger build swimmers in the swim team. Swimming requires a lot of upper body strength together with lower body. Running can pretty much ignore a lot of the upper body. When I went into jc cross country, majority were lean build. Even the biggest build guy (Jc) was smaller than the biggest build swimmer (secondary school). The biggest build guy also ended up focusing on 100-200s instead of long distance running.

Apart from that, swimming is better for heavier build since lower impact. For running, there's more risk of injuries due to the higher impact.

But of course there are some transferrables from swimming > running: 1) leg strength: quads, calves, glutes, hamstrings 2) core 3) shoulder strength (for arm swing) 4) cardiovascular strength

Non-transferrables: 1) breathing technique 2) gait form 3) racing strategy

yah your foundation is there.
i have a french friend who is in his 60s, used to ski long distance competitively in his teens, he is running at 5+min/km av effortlessly now without training, plenty of vapping, cigars, good food and plenty of alcohol.

Pretty sure there's a lot of exceptions. I also know of one guy from the other extreme, he picked up running in his mid 30s, 3 years ago. Only started speed training after 6 months to 1 year of running. Zero competitive experience and had no athletic background.

Ran the FM at 3.44 and HM at 1.36 in SG with a 5k at 20.36 recently. But ... he runs 85 - 90km/week and does long intervals 4k x 2, 2k x 5.

 

[WussRedXLi]

 

[Kuudere]

Yesterday's interval > Build upper limit pace



8 x 400m w/ 1.30 rest followed by 4 min rest and 7 x 400m w/ 1.30 rest @ 1500m - 1600m pace

1st set average: 3.26 min/km, 1.22/lap
2nd set average: 3.32 min/km, 1.25/lap
overall average: 3.28 min/km, 1.23/lap

I might change up the intervals a little bit, because I ended up getting stitch for this workout. I checked up on this and it's better to run 8 x 400m w/ 1.00 rest or 10 x 400m w/ 2.00 rest without doing additional sets.

Will play around with both every 3 weeks rotation and see which is better for me.

 

[xllms]

Are you convince that your 1080v13 is fake and not a factory stolen goods or rejects? The look and probably the feel can't tell.
Was thinking of getting a novablast 3 from china to try. About $65 only and hoping they are rejects from the factory.

i haven't tried the authentic ones, so i cannot be 100% sure. But i have uploaded images to online authentication apps and it concluded as 鉴别不通过. its made in vietnam.
i have run on it, so far no issues.
when i bought the NB, i bought a pair of Asics Nimbus 25 (approx. RMB250) as well, which i also did an online authentication and had the same conclusion. I kept the NB and returned the asics nimbus 25.

I had previous experience of fake brooks hyperion tempo which i also have a pair of authentic ones.
the feel and fitting is 100% same but midsole formulation is different. It feeels the same for 2-3 runs after that the bounce is no longer there and it gets less and less responsive. That was some 2yrs ago, and the authentic one is still going strong.

 

[WussRedXLi]

Losing weight is quite easy for me ever since I started exercising everyday after retired.

I had been losing 10kg since starting of last year August and Iif I wanted to bring my weight from 75kg to 70kg is no problem at all but just that I had been taking some late night snack lately while watching Kdrama.

But losing body fat is not easy. Your weight can dropped but the body fat will stay or drop very little as I had a weighing machine at home for monitoring.

Yeah that's the whole idea, losing body fat, including visceral fat. And then at the same time increase muscle mass. That's why need cycling now, im into my last bits liao, becoming difficult to pinch love handles and abdomen area. Shiok shiok.
Muscle mass going up too, but rather slowly. But can lah.

Those 20-23/24 hrs per week of exercise no joke tho, including zone 0 and zone 1.......really need to invest a lot of time. Im still working and just a few more years of slogging it out before retiring.

 

[WussRedXLi]

Actually if convert 23 hrs into running mileage @ 6.00 min/km (relatively slow pace for me, actually zone 1 mostly), that would be 230km per week. 20hrs = 200km. Comfortably over 10k per year

But of coz, that is not possible. Sure something break first, just a matter of sooner or later.

Can also only do it coz my family joins me (today my wife joined also, lol, coz cool morleng)

 

[WussRedXLi]

BTW, yesterday just started. NTUC Fairprice Farmland Sardines small can $1 per can. I loaded up 110 cans, now waiting for them to restock. Offer is till 31st. Literally emptied out both the Finest and regular Fairprice store.
Long long time they never lelong liao, quite a few months the last time i hooted with discounts. (i take both Farmland and NTUC FP store brand)

The 7-11 chicken breast 100g $2.90.......a bit bo hua if using it for protein.

Best is frozen pork ba chor from wet market (1kg $7), but rarely cook leh.

 

[xllms]

Pretty sure there's a lot of exceptions. I also know of one guy from the other extreme, he picked up running in his mid 30s, 3 years ago. Only started speed training after 6 months to 1 year of running. Zero competitive experience and had no athletic background.

Ran the FM at 3.44 and HM at 1.36 in SG with a 5k at 20.36 recently. But ... he runs 85 - 90km/week and does long intervals 4k x 2, 2k x 5.

agree, and genetics also play a part imo. there are also exceptions at the other end of the discussion as well.
in your given example, i think the key is that this 30+yo guy is clocking 90km/wk.

 

[WussRedXLi]

 

[Jeremy1]

I love my 1080 V13. I can walked forever as the cushioning is soft.

It's made in Vietnam.

But then I also just found out that my Elite V4 also good for walking