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Looks like there's some interest in plantar fasciitis.

PF is a common cause of heel pain but not all heel pain are from PF. Other causes include loss of fat pad, calcaneal stress fracture, nerve compression. When in doubt, see a specialist.

Anyone can get PF, but more common in repetitive strain ie. prolonged running or jumping, poor arch support, people with flat feet, gait change

So how to manage acute inflammation stage
1) rest but that does not mean not moving. Avoid long hours of stationary postition like prolonged standing and sitting. Walking is actually good as it is a form of light stretching. Icing helps.
2) lots of stretching. calf stretch and plantar arch stretches. rollers over the arch. Active calf strengthening should be reserved for chronic and preventive stages.
3) If one has massage gun, a low intensity application is helpful.
4) if still bad, see doc for anti-inflammatory painkillers like arcoxia, kefentech patches. Sports physician or orthopods can give steroid injections which calm the inflammation, platelet rich plasma injections to speed heeling or shockwave therapy, a form of sound therapy that can be seen as upgraded version of massage gun for painrelief and speeding up healing.

Chronic cases
1) limit running before point of pain occurence, avoid trail runs as uneven terrain increases stress on the arch. Run on more shock absorbent terrain like stadium tracks. Or simply switch to another form of cardio meanwhile like swimming. Sometimes PF can result from gait changes like heel strike to midfoot or toestrike due to additional impact on the fascia. So stick to heel strike then.
2) regular stretches. Good to stretch the feet first thing using a towel in the morning, or after 1 hour of stationary position. calf strengthening like single calf raise on staircases.
3) footwear changes - thick cushion, heel drop should be high (preferably 2.5-4cm) as this takes the pressure off the fascia. For runners, they may want to switch to shoes like asics nimbus or hoka bondi if the current shoes do not offer enough heel support.
4)night splints that do the work of continous stretching during sleep also helps
5)sports taping may help to realign traction forces.
6)surgery like gastrocnemius recession is hardly needed in modern context when other modalities like shock wave therapies are quite effective.

Hope this helps.
 

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Looks like there's some interest in plantar fasciitis.

PF is a common cause of heel pain but not all heel pain are from PF. Other causes include loss of fat pad, calcaneal stress fracture, nerve compression. When in doubt, see a specialist.

Anyone can get PF, but more common in repetitive strain ie. prolonged running or jumping, poor arch support, people with flat feet, gait change

So how to manage acute inflammation stage
1) rest but that does not mean not moving. Avoid long hours of stationary postition like prolonged standing and sitting. Walking is actually good as it is a form of light stretching. Icing helps.
2) lots of stretching. calf stretch and plantar arch stretches. rollers over the arch. Active calf strengthening should be reserved for chronic and preventive stages.
3) If one has massage gun, a low intensity application is helpful.
4) if still bad, see doc for anti-inflammatory painkillers like arcoxia, kefentech patches. Sports physician or orthopods can give steroid injections which calm the inflammation, platelet rich plasma injections to speed heeling or shockwave therapy, a form of sound therapy that can be seen as upgraded version of massage gun for painrelief and speeding up healing.

Chronic cases
1) limit running before point of pain occurence, avoid trail runs as uneven terrain increases stress on the arch. Run on more shock absorbent terrain like stadium tracks. Or simply switch to another form of cardio meanwhile like swimming. Sometimes PF can result from gait changes like heel strike to midfoot or toestrike due to additional impact on the fascia. So stick to heel strike then.
2) regular stretches. Good to stretch the feet first thing using a towel in the morning, or after 1 hour of stationary position. calf strengthening like single calf raise on staircases.
3) footwear changes - thick cushion, heel drop should be high (preferably 2.5-4cm) as this takes the pressure off the fascia. For runners, they may want to switch to shoes like asics nimbus or hoka bondi if the current shoes do not offer enough heel support.
4)night splints that do the work of continous stretching during sleep also helps
5)sports taping may help to realign traction forces.
6)surgery like gastrocnemius recession is hardly needed in modern context when other modalities like shock wave therapies are quite effective.

Hope this helps.
Yup, thanks a lot. Last year my podiatrist recommended almost the same for me for the inflammation stage and the treatment that helped me was the shockwave therapy. Healed from the acute pain about 2 weeks after starting therapy.
 

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20240418 11degC brooks hyperion elite 3
8.5km @ 5'56" av
9.0km @ 6'54" av return run
first leg run failed to keep below 6' pace throughout and calf muscles super sore now 🤣
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Do you all follow the suggestion running recommended by your watch ?

What does below mean ?

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Singapore Open starts today.

For 1.5k woman, Romaine Soh, Soh's sister ran 4.44, 2nd place, ahead of Vanessa Lee, 4.51.

For 1.5k man, the 1st place ran 4.17.

Do you all follow the suggestion running recommended by your watch ?

What does below mean ?

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Usually don't follow.

It just means 4 sets of 4.00 minute runs at 5.45/km pace. 26.00 minute of warm up jog + set recovery + warm down
 

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Simple way of understanding it if you go by distance instead of time @Jeremy1

Warm up
4 x 700m repeats w/ ? rest (you should run your 700s at 4 minutes and below, not so sure about the rest since you need to experiment with the workout)
Warm down

Intensity >> Will feel like running 2.4km race effort with breaks in between
4 minutes @ 5.45/km = 0.7km or 700m
 

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Simple way of understanding it if you go by distance instead of time @Jeremy1

Warm up
4 x 700m repeats w/ ? rest (you should run your 700s at 4 minutes and below, not so sure about the rest since you need to experiment with the workout)
Warm down

Intensity >> Will feel like running 2.4km race effort with breaks in between
4 minutes @ 5.45/km = 0.7km or 700m

4 minutes and below pace, I can never run that fast. 😱
 

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Do you all follow the suggestion running recommended by your watch ?

What does below mean ?

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This is the Norwegian 4x4 intervals protocol Supposedly effective for improving vo2max according to scientific study. But do it correctly, that is assuming Garmin got threshold speed correctly, this training going to wear you out.

I do not suggest it until you know what is your threshold pace. The pace that you can sustain for one hour. Usually a 10k race pace for average runner who complete it around one hour plus minus. Knowing your threshold pace and hr is key for accurate HR intensity zoning. Not max HR.
 
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This is the Norwegian 4x4 intervals protocol Supposedly effective for improving vo2max according to scientific study. But do it correctly, that is assuming Garmin got threshold speed correctly, this training going to wear you out.

I do not suggest it until you know what is your threshold pace. The pace that you can sustain for one hour. Usually a 10k race pace for average runner who complete it around one hour plus minus. Knowing your threshold pace and hr is key for accurate HR intensity zoning. Not max HR.

My Threshold Pace :s13:
 

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My Threshold Pace :s13:
This 4X4 suppose to be done near VO2max pace. So is faster than threshold pace. That's why I say need to know your threshold as a guide. Problem is most runners, such as myself, don't know our VO2max pace since never did a VO2max lab test.
 

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This 4X4 suppose to be done near VO2max pace. So is faster than threshold pace. That's why I say need to know your threshold as a guide. Problem is most runners, such as myself, don't know our VO2max pace since never did a VO2max lab test.

Actually I just followed accordingly to what the watch suggestion for today run

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Treadmill no issue, outside confirmed jialat 😟
 

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Actually I just followed accordingly to what the watch suggestion for today run

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Treadmill no issue, outside confirmed jialat 😟
Oh, not really the norwegian 4X4.. Need to repeat 4 time of ( 4X 4mins)
 
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