jogging and motivation thread

[dicxz80]

Not a doctor, but this type of health concern better bring it your doctor. i also have sometime high some time ok pressure. Have seen a polyclinic doctor about it, and he asked to monitor by writing down the numbers in a table, 3 times a day., morning, afternoon and evening. After a few weeks, he read my chart, and he find not a concern despite some of the readings hit 145/90. While a lot are 127-135/75-85. He said no need to go for meds.

But don't use my number as a guide, but I suggest to do a similar charting for a few weeks and then show it to a doctor to discuss.

which doctor do you go ? normal GP ? and how many days do you need to record ? Thank you

 

[Ender]

which doctor do you go ? normal GP ? and how many days do you need to record ? Thank you

Polyclinic. About two weeks worth of data.

But if you want see your GP, just do it first before you see them, that will save you one consultation visit.

 

[WussRedXLi]

 

[WussRedXLi]

 

[WussRedXLi]

 

[WussRedXLi]

 

[WussRedXLi]

Age 10 already > 70 ml/kg/min what the sheet.

So i guess that sub 8 case for NAPFA 2.4 pri 6 possible and believable

Now thinking about it, no wonder some fixies can hang with me at least for a decent amount of time. (of coz they have drafting advantage, and i also gotta be real careful not to crash them)

 

[WussRedXLi]

 

[WussRedXLi]

Tanaka 15:24

 

[WussRedXLi]

Actually it's quite interesting, regarding the "men vs woman" topic thingy that you all would have seen many times before.


Top 100 women records (Track, not road) is 14:39.56 for 100th place.
WR is 14:00.21

And then we have quite a fair bit of youtubers / club runners (ie not pro or really running for a living in professional athletics) who can dig below 14:40, in parkruns, road races. Ok, of coz some would say that it is GPS lah......is road race lah so might not be 5k etc yada, but still.......

Even come across very serious but still non-pro triathletes (not full time runners) who managed to break 14:00, albeit just 1-2 seconds.
Yes it is GPS, but that's about it. GPS in open ground + straight line still is gonna be extremely close (heck from my own testing, open ground non-oval 800m track figure of 8 also extremely extremely close at least for my Huawei GT Runner)


This vid is somewhat old, 1 year +, for eg 10th Ben is 14:57 in the vid and now he is like 14:40 (possibly even faster if i missed any of his more recent vids)

 

[Ender]

Actually it's quite interesting, regarding the "men vs woman" topic thingy that you all would have seen many times before.


Top 100 women records (Track, not road) is 14:39.56 for 100th place.
WR is 14:00.21

And then we have quite a fair bit of youtubers / club runners (ie not pro or really running for a living in professional athletics) who can dig below 14:40, in parkruns, road races. Ok, of coz some would say that it is GPS lah......is road race lah so might not be 5k etc yada, but still.......

Even come across very serious but still non-pro triathletes (not full time runners) who managed to break 14:00, albeit just 1-2 seconds.
Yes it is GPS, but that's about it. GPS in open ground + straight line still is gonna be extremely close (heck from my own testing, open ground non-oval 800m track figure of 8 also extremely extremely close at least for my Huawei GT Runner)


This vid is somewhat old, 1 year +, for eg 10th Ben is 14:57 in the vid and now he is like 14:40 (possibly even faster if i missed any of his more recent vids)

Just break 1 or 2 sec on gps, you justify that? My last 5 km time trial at YCK stadium, gps record 5.03km. Seems like a acceptable error, but it is not for time trial. For a 4min/km pace (common pace for those who want to break sub 20) that's a 7 second error. For my pace, 4:19, that was a 7:45 sec I could have minus off and call it my PB and make it more impressive.
Time trial, just make an effort to do it properly. Not much a hassle as Singapore has many infrastructures. The effort you try to justify and compare data, is more than just make a trip to the stadium or park run and do it proper.

 

[WussRedXLi]

Just break 1 or 2 sec on gps, you justify that? My last 5 km time trial at YCK stadium, gps record 5.03km. Seems like a acceptable error, but it is not for time trial. For a 4min/km pace (common pace for those who want to break sub 20) that's a 7 second error. For my pace, 4:19, that was a 7:45 sec I could have minus off and call it my PB and make it more impressive.
Time trial, just make an effort to do it properly. Not much a hassle as Singapore has many infrastructures. The effort you try to justify and compare data, is more than just make a trip to the stadium or park run and do it proper.

I think you have misunderstood my post liao, i really meant it's the age old man vs woman discussion about performance.

My meaning is that....no matter how inaccurate that 13:59 GPS time in the youtube vid is or any other youtube vids based on GPS, he (that amateur triathlete) is still in realm of top world 100 females for track, ie below 14:40.
That is a 40 seconds diff.

I agree + know what are you talking about absolute accuracy. ie Track races have its place.
Regardless, i cannot change what all these youtube vids are posting what, right....
I can only work with what i have and see.

 

[WussRedXLi]

Time trial, just make an effort to do it properly. Not much a hassle as Singapore has many infrastructures. The effort you try to justify and compare data, is more than just make a trip to the stadium or park run and do it proper.

Like i said, i agree with your statement if one is really anal about specific TT timings. This is why when i post timings, i put "TT" instead of TT, in quotes. (hope you get what i am saying)

I like performance but unfortunately i am not really that anal about the specifics and i dont really like track running round and round, though i do appreciate progression.

And i remember what you said before, if really wanna use GPS as a reference, that difference better be huge. Veryr ecently i tested was 420m on the GPS, 65 seconds, or say for 5k is 18:02, or 3k 10:15....
So of coz if really wanna compare, i'm not gonna say that im faster than someone who can run 70s for his 400 on track. Or 5k 18:30 (heck just round it up 19 mins lah..... ). Or 3k 10:30 - 10:45, but i rarely see folks doing 3k tho....

ps. I also know some GPS readings are TERRIBLY off, eg 5.03 GPS is not 5k track, more like 4.5km track.
Or some races like Skechers 10k is 9.1km on GPS and god knows maybe actual distance possibly 8.95km or what.... these outliers are for another story.

 

[WussRedXLi]

Just break 1 or 2 sec on gps, you justify that?

Orh...ok, i think i finally get your post.

"Break 1-2 secs on GPS" that triathlete 13:59 ....... vs 14:00 women 5k WR on track.

No, i was not comparing from that angle. 13:59 GPS on youtube vs 5k WR on track.

Bro! I not so stupid lah.

 

[LWZ]

Heng I don't really bother about timing, no such problem

 

[WussRedXLi]

Anyway, just for clarity in case there are any other possible misunderstandings, im basing the top 100 women's 5k from here

https://worldathletics.org/records/all-time-toplists/middlelong/5000-metres/all/women/senior?page=1

14:40 top 100 is one aspect.

14:15 would already get you into top 10 recorded women 5k

I found this on wiki......interesting.

 

[WussRedXLi]

Heng I don't really bother about timing, no such problem

Actually nowadays i dont even really run in races (not even FOC park runs) or have specific goals for running.

Just training for dualthlon coz got first race next year (just do my best) and if really good and can enjoy then aim 2026. So in a way it's not important but still it's important in a way.

 

[WussRedXLi]

Cant find the 13:59 GPS non-pro triathlete vid but this is Kristian Blummerfelt running a 13:51 road 5k a few years ago.

Disclaimer : Again, not an official race, so it's not 5k distance certified, let alone track. Even Kristian mentioned it's not an official race.
It is what it is.

But then, it has rolling hills plus a very tight U-turn.....so it's gonna be much slower.

 

[Kuudere]

Age 10 already > 70 ml/kg/min what the sheet.

So i guess that sub 8 case for NAPFA 2.4 pri 6 possible and believable

Now thinking about it, no wonder some fixies can hang with me at least for a decent amount of time. (of coz they have drafting advantage, and i also gotta be real careful not to crash them)

Fastest current young guy in Sg (warmer weather) I know: Ong Chang Zhi

14 y.o. this year: 3.8km bedok reservoir (13.08), 2.4km (7:36), 1.5km (4.31)
13 y.o. last year: 1.5km (4.49), 2.4km (7.47)

https://www.sportsplits.com/races/s...ships-2024/events/2/results/individuals/15004
https://pocarisweat.com.sg/2400m
https://results.singaporeathletics.org.sg/ac22024/240225F684.htm

https://www.123finish.com/ath/ath.php?athid=33699&ath=Ong

>> 53.41 minute of video (results)

3 people between 13-14 ran under sub-8 min together with Chang Zhi. Most probably could break sub-8 min in primary school (<=12 y.o.)?

Actually it's quite interesting, regarding the "men vs woman" topic thingy that you all would have seen many times before.


Top 100 women records (Track, not road) is 14:39.56 for 100th place.
WR is 14:00.21

And then we have quite a fair bit of youtubers / club runners (ie not pro or really running for a living in professional athletics) who can dig below 14:40, in parkruns, road races. Ok, of coz some would say that it is GPS lah......is road race lah so might not be 5k etc yada, but still.......

Even come across very serious but still non-pro triathletes (not full time runners) who managed to break 14:00, albeit just 1-2 seconds.
Yes it is GPS, but that's about it. GPS in open ground + straight line still is gonna be extremely close (heck from my own testing, open ground non-oval 800m track figure of 8 also extremely extremely close at least for my Huawei GT Runner)


This vid is somewhat old, 1 year +, for eg 10th Ben is 14:57 in the vid and now he is like 14:40 (possibly even faster if i missed any of his more recent vids)

If you are 17:30 - 18:00 5k guy in sg running clubs, you pretty much dominate the non-paid free clubs. Overseas different standard for sure.

 

[WussRedXLi]

Fastest current young guy in Sg (warmer weather) I know: Ong Chang Zhi

14 y.o. this year: 3.8km bedok reservoir (13.08), 2.4km (7:36), 1.5km (4.31)
13 y.o. last year: 1.5km (4.49), 2.4km (7.47)

https://www.sportsplits.com/races/s...ships-2024/events/2/results/individuals/15004
https://pocarisweat.com.sg/2400m
https://results.singaporeathletics.org.sg/ac22024/240225F684.htm

https://www.123finish.com/ath/ath.php?athid=33699&ath=Ong

>> 53.41 minute of video (results)

3 people between 13-14 ran under sub-8 min together with Chang Zhi. Most probably could break sub-8 min in primary school (<=12 y.o.)?

If you are 17:30 - 18:00 5k guy in sg running clubs, you pretty much dominate the non-paid free clubs. Overseas different standard for sure.

Wow you really can dig out stats (and probably remember majority of them), next time i sure ask you liao.
My brain and memory sliding...... 7:36 is crazy fast for kid

I think it was you that you mentioned your nephew or what is below 8 mins age 11-12 thereabouts? (Pri 6 is the first 2.4k that they'll run so i am assuming is this pri 6 age).