jogging and motivation thread

[rosschang]

a couple of us here really think 乔丹飞影pb3.0 is really value for money. The latest version is pb4.0. To me pb3.0 has the qualities between adidas adios pro 3 and takumi sen 9.

many top marathon athletics in China are using xtep特步

Yea, I knew there are some good one in china, just dunno what to pick.

Their price are good, compare to buying a Kayano locally... it's getting expensive.

 

[WussRedXLi]

garcia leon walking pace faster than my running pace

Yeah quite fast.

Gotta train until the level in which the "lifting" phase is not detectable by the naked eyes of the judges, but then you gotta push until you lift one, coz if not you won't be able to get to that kind of pace and do it efficiently enough to sustain. And of coz, aerobic fitness gotta be there, coz this kind of gait is lagi less efficient then running.

 

[xllms]

Yeah quite fast.

Gotta train until the level in which the "lifting" phase is not detectable by the naked eyes of the judges, but then you gotta push until you lift one, coz if not you won't be able to get to that kind of pace and do it efficiently enough to sustain. And of coz, aerobic fitness gotta be there, coz this kind of gait is lagi less efficient then running.

yes, technique is very different and without proper training, is quite tiring. Had once tried brisk walking at 8-9min/km for more than 10km, felt worse than jogging at around same pace.

 

[xllms]

Yea, I knew there are some good one in china, just dunno what to pick.

Their price are good, compare to buying a Kayano locally... it's getting expensive.

recommends you to install 小红书 and search through key words like 性价比跑步鞋透气 as well as Chinese running shoes reviewers on youtube/baidu.

 

[xllms]

In terms of pace, it should be 40s - 1min/km slower than current pace for that specific distance. If you run faster than that, your legs will feel more tired after the run. I usually run slightly faster than this for long run but I make sure to do a slow recovery run the day afterwards.

40s - 1 min/km will usually satisfy the 70-75%. Longer distance, maybe 1 min.

am doing somerthing similar now when i do 2x10km runs, the return runs will be 1min-2min slower than the first run average. Despite that, most of the time the HR goes up to 160s av, occasionally peaked at 170+.

Maybe I should get a dedicated HR placed on my heart. And also try controlling my long runs at below 130 HR.

 

[Kuudere]

am doing somerthing similar now when i do 2x10km runs, the return runs will be 1min-2min slower than the first run average. Despite that, most of the time the HR goes up to 160s av, occasionally peaked at 170+.

Maybe I should get a dedicated HR placed on my heart. And also try controlling my long runs at below 130 HR.

Your first run is on the faster side, so HR will be higher. And also, 20km is quite a long run, normal to have a higher overall HR if you don't really have a break.

 

[WussRedXLi]

yes, technique is very different and without proper training, is quite tiring. Had once tried brisk walking at 8-9min/km for more than 10km, felt worse than jogging at around same pace.

Definitely worse than jogging same pace, you can easily see this from the HR stats (also reflects on the energy expended). From another angle as in distance pov, you walk 5K is maciam like you run 8K.


The first time i tried running, it was 2 laps x 800m at my place (1.6K). I timed it on my phone, it was approx 6 mins 10 seconds (3.51 pace). Have not even purchased my watch then. heh......
That was in Nov 2022.

In many ways, i believe the walking trained my running. It's also a form of cross training if you look at it from another angle. (coz there are some articles stating these cycling, walking and stuff don't / cannot carry over)

edit - ok, gotta state that i also did 60-80 metres SIT also, so the neuro stimulus among other things are there. I do with my kid one, quite a few years already.

 

[Jeremy1]

Today run........

Np with treadmill..........

 

[Skyrillex]

New event this year?

 

[Ender]

New event this year?

1st time have Garmin run here. See the price and entitlement first.

 

[Skyrillex]

1st time have Garmin run here. See the price and entitlement first.

I hope its within reasonable pricing and entitlement so i can maybe take part in it before traveling for holiday.

 

[Skyrillex]

recommends you to install 小红书 and search through key words like 性价比跑步鞋透气 as well as Chinese running shoes reviewers on youtube/baidu.

I actually did that like a while back but not sure if its the algorithm most of the posts i saw was either china xmm or guys running/sharing their pacing and timing, or them sharing their china race result.

 

[WussRedXLi]

 

[Jeremy1]

I see their running form like their stride is very wide.

Why my stride is short

 

[Ender]

I see their running form like their stride is very wide.

Why my stride is short

If we are not running as fast as them, don't follow their form. Like those keyan runner, with high butt kick, don't force yourself with high butt kick when running only 7min/km.

 

[Jeremy1]

If we are not running as fast as them, don't follow their form. Like those keyan runner, with high butt kick, don't force yourself with high butt kick when running only 7min/km.

I am still trying to find a form where I can maintained my pace to run till the finishing line

 

[Ender]

I am still trying to find a form where I can maintained my pace to run till the finishing line

LOL, if FM or HM , not many people can maintain the same running form from start to end. Not even elite runners. That's why I find those youtube channel that do elite running form analysis during a race mooted.

 

[Jeremy1]

LOL, if FM or HM , not many people can maintain the same running form from start to end. Not even elite runners. That's why I find those youtube channel that do elite running form analysis during a race mooted.

But at least not to the extent of walking

 

[WussRedXLi]

 

[xllms]

Your first run is on the faster side, so HR will be higher. And also, 20km is quite a long run, normal to have a higher overall HR if you don't really have a break.

for sunday's run, i had a 10 min break and HR was already below 90 when i started the return run.