learning japanese

[zeroxmxi]

Thanks for the info.

Cheers.

 

[Ah_keong]

Hello Keong,

Perhaps I have phrased myself incorrectly, but like you, I am going to take JLPT3 this year as well. I have yet to register it, mind asking if you have done it already? And where to register?

This is my first JLPT that I will be taking. I did not take JLPT4, so not familiar with JLPT registration.

Regards.

oh paiseh... i misunderstand it...
i thought u aiming to take JLPT2 as this is the last year... next year is new format liao fron N5 to N1....

then lets work hard together as i also aiming for JLPT3 this year... i havent done JLPT3 yet....

i haven register it, the last time i register for JLPT4 in 2007 was in Mid august.. last year is like from august to sept...

i registered in JCS in 2007, so gonna do the same for this year also... Good luck comrade!

 

[Ah_keong]

There's a change in the dates

Tentative date: 26th April-6th May
Airline: Cathay Pacific
Places to visit: Tokyo, Hakone
Price of tickets: About $600 SGD
Lodging: est. $350
Transport and meals: $200-$300

quite affordable leh....

but i maybe going taiwan in June and reservist in may....

 

[dimitri_can]

quite affordable leh....

but i maybe going taiwan in June and reservist in may....

not going then? -__-"

 

[Adventia]

Anyone know where can i get the shin nihongo no chuukyuu
(Taiwan print) second book?

Kino doesn't have it,cuz they say the book is supposedly not meant for export...lolz...

 

[Ah_keong]

not going then? -__-"

yah, i promised to go taiwan with my friend... i going Japan most prob in July - August to meet my penpal...

I going in May to Kobe to attend IEEE Robotics Conference for work purposes... so think no playing for me....

Paiseh....

" Natsu wa Yappa UMI da ne! "

Quoted from BEACH BOYS............

 

[zeroxmxi]

I'm currently reading a book I bought from Kinokuniya's Takashimaya branch entitled Basic Connections, Making Your Japanese Flow, by Kakuko Shoji, Kodansha International Press, ISBN4-7700-2860-1.

I read a section regarding Japanese sentences may sometimes be out of standard order which we would normally learn, and the use of particles help to provide changes in ways they construct sentences.

For instance,
わたし、前に見たことがあるんです、あの男（を）。

What normally I would construct for the same meaning,
前にあの男を見たことがあるんです。

I wonder how often do Japanese tweak their sentences like that when they speak? Obviously, I understand that it's a matter of style, however, is it common? If it is, then I guess I have to pay more attention to quirks like these. I sworn I've heard many examples like that when I watch anime or the likes . But I did not pay special attention.

In schools, we are probably being taught to construct sentences written or colloquial, in orthodox ways, the normal ways.

Anyone care to shed some light on this?

Regards.

 

[Ah_keong]

I'm currently reading a book I bought from Kinokuniya's Takashimaya branch entitled Basic Connections, Making Your Japanese Flow, by Kakuko Shoji, Kodansha International Press, ISBN4-7700-2860-1.

I read a section regarding Japanese sentences may sometimes be out of standard order which we would normally learn, and the use of particles help to provide changes in ways they construct sentences.

For instance,
わたし、前に見たことがあるんです、あの男（を）。

What normally I would construct for the same meaning,
前にあの男を見たことがあるんです。

I wonder how often do Japanese tweak their sentences like that when they speak? Obviously, I understand that it's a matter of style, however, is it common? If it is, then I guess I have to pay more attention to quirks like these. I sworn I've heard many examples like that when I watch anime or the likes . But I did not pay special attention.

In schools, we are probably being taught to construct sentences written or colloquial, in orthodox ways, the normal ways.

Anyone care to shed some light on this?

Regards.

my japanese friend tell me this is the conversation form... or slang...
sometimes it is wrong but still spoken in that way like Singlish vs english...

 

[Adventia]

I may be changing to bunka courses due to personal and schedule problems.
How are the lessons in bunka conducted?
Some of the things i know are the promotion by teacher's recommendation system,more conversational and not really structured for JLPT aspect.
Can anyone give me more advice?

Btw i am switching not because i find ikoma pre-advance not good enough.
But rather,my new work schedule cant accommodate full time classes anymore and i dont think they have a PA2 part time that i can join anytime soon.

 

[Adventia]

my japanese friend tell me this is the conversation form... or slang...
sometimes it is wrong but still spoken in that way like Singlish vs english...

...so this is very common when speaking among friends and the likes ?

 

[dimitri_can]

...so this is very common when speaking among friends and the likes ?

Yes... For example...

その映画、みたことある？

 

[zeroxmxi]

And so, there will be a revision of the JLPT proficiency levels starting next
year, 2010.

N1: Approximately the same passing level as the existing Level 1 test, but designed to
enable slightly more advanced abilities to be measured as well.
N2: Approximately the same passing level as the existing Level 2 test.
N3: Positioned at a level bridging existing Level 2 and Level 3 tests.
N4: Approximately the same passing level as the existing Level 3 test.
N5: Approximately the same passing level as the existing Level 4 test.

From the definitions above, meaning after I have taken and passed JLPT 3 end
of this year, 2009, it's only as good as N4. I've got 3 more levels to look
ahead of me.

Man, I got mixed feelings about this. Sure it's a large gap between existing
JLPT 3 and 2 and therefore adding N3 as an additional bridging level seems
good. But, I don't know, just felt the path was slightly extended.

Regards.

 

[Ah_keong]

I may be changing to bunka courses due to personal and schedule problems.
How are the lessons in bunka conducted?
Some of the things i know are the promotion by teacher's recommendation system,more conversational and not really structured for JLPT aspect.
Can anyone give me more advice?

Btw i am switching not because i find ikoma pre-advance not good enough.
But rather,my new work schedule cant accommodate full time classes anymore and i dont think they have a PA2 part time that i can join anytime soon.

IKOMA pre advance don have part time class???

 

[Ah_keong]

...so this is very common when speaking among friends and the likes ?

to a certain extent yes bah... but i sometimes got scolding when i talk to my senseis....

 

[Ah_keong]

And so, there will be a revision of the JLPT proficiency levels starting next
year, 2010.

N1: Approximately the same passing level as the existing Level 1 test, but designed to
enable slightly more advanced abilities to be measured as well.
N2: Approximately the same passing level as the existing Level 2 test.
N3: Positioned at a level bridging existing Level 2 and Level 3 tests.
N4: Approximately the same passing level as the existing Level 3 test.
N5: Approximately the same passing level as the existing Level 4 test.

From the definitions above, meaning after I have taken and passed JLPT 3 end
of this year, 2009, it's only as good as N4. I've got 3 more levels to look
ahead of me.

Man, I got mixed feelings about this. Sure it's a large gap between existing
JLPT 3 and 2 and therefore adding N3 as an additional bridging level seems
good. But, I don't know, just felt the path was slightly extended.

Regards.

yup... me too, this year if i challenge JLPT3 and pass, then next year is N3...

a bit funny also but thats life bah...

 

[Adventia]

IKOMA pre advance don have part time class???

They have.But no new ones.I will check with them again.

 

[Adventia]

And so, there will be a revision of the JLPT proficiency levels starting next
year, 2010.

N1: Approximately the same passing level as the existing Level 1 test, but designed to
enable slightly more advanced abilities to be measured as well.
N2: Approximately the same passing level as the existing Level 2 test.
N3: Positioned at a level bridging existing Level 2 and Level 3 tests.
N4: Approximately the same passing level as the existing Level 3 test.
N5: Approximately the same passing level as the existing Level 4 test.

From the definitions above, meaning after I have taken and passed JLPT 3 end
of this year, 2009, it's only as good as N4. I've got 3 more levels to look
ahead of me.

Man, I got mixed feelings about this. Sure it's a large gap between existing
JLPT 3 and 2 and therefore adding N3 as an additional bridging level seems
good. But, I don't know, just felt the path was slightly extended.

Regards.

If you think you are apt enough you can always jump to N2 next year.

 

[samanthalee]

If you think you are apt enough you can always jump to N2 next year.

Can jump de meh? No prerequisite?

 

[Adventia]

Can jump de meh? No prerequisite?

No,JLPT registration is opened to all.Dont think they will change their policy about this and there is no need to.
I registered for JLPT 3 last year as a private candidate.(private cuz i was not with any school)
I never took JLPT 4.

 

[zeroxmxi]

No,JLPT registration is opened to all.Dont think they will change their policy about this and there is no need to.
I registered for JLPT 3 last year as a private candidate.(private cuz i was not with any school)
I never took JLPT 4.

Cool, so what studying tips do you have for your kouhai tachi .

Doing JLPT 3 without any help sure is a feat, to me at least.
Must be a lot of self-study, and endless watching of J-drama.

If not, could it be that you lived in Japan for awhile before?

Regards.