LG G5

[OnLyOnE]

Not a lot of phone are marketed focusing on manual-mode like how LG does. It would be interesting to see how other phone fare for it with their own pro/manual mode. Are you able to share the shutter speed/ISO timing for these shot?

These are taken with the wide lens.

So F2.4, ISO50, 2 seconds. Manual WB too, I think I set it 4100k.

 

[OnLyOnE]

Not a lot of phone are marketed focusing on manual-mode like how LG does. It would be interesting to see how other phone fare for it with their own pro/manual mode. Are you able to share the shutter speed/ISO timing for these shot?

Most flagship now has manual mode. It is more like G5 is the only phone with Ultra Wide Angle Lens.

Anyway, without Ultra Wide Lens, it is impossible to capture the fireworks without having lots of cut off here and there.

 

[chiaRH]

Tell me which other phones can take fireworks shots like this.

Fireworks

nice demonstration of 1 thing that most people forget about the G5, that the wide angle lens is fully capable of shooting manual as well

i was there on 16th too, looks like this guy was on the grass by the edge of the water (I was on the small pier with the majority of the people)

 

[OnLyOnE]

nice demonstration of 1 thing that most people forget about the G5, that the wide angle lens is fully capable of shooting manual as well

i was there on 16th too, looks like this guy was on the grass by the edge of the water (I was on the small pier with the majority of the people)

I think I am the only guy who has 2 tripod that day. 1 on my Olympus, the other on G5.

This coming weekend might be more crowded, not sure if I will go again this Saturday.

 

[OnLyOnE]

nice demonstration of 1 thing that most people forget about the G5, that the wide angle lens is fully capable of shooting manual as well

i was there on 16th too, looks like this guy was on the grass by the edge of the water (I was on the small pier with the majority of the people)

It was an easy decision that time picking G5. I need that wide lens and there was a 30 seconds long exposure demo somewhere on youtube I saw which was awesome.

 

[qyc_91]

Most flagship now has manual mode. It is more like G5 is the only phone with Ultra Wide Angle Lens.

Anyway, without Ultra Wide Lens, it is impossible to capture the fireworks without having lots of cut off here and there.

It's nice to see they allow manual mode on G5 wide angle although it's half the megapixels from the main camera. I did use G4 & G5 so I understand how good the manual mode can be.

 

[OnLyOnE]

It's nice to see they allow manual mode on G5 wide angle although it's half the megapixels from the main camera. I did use G4 & G5 so I understand how good the manual mode can be.

I don't understand why there are so many slamming articles on G5. Anyway, I don't want to understand. G5 is good enough for me as my photos have shown. Mobile phones are all the same, the only difference is the camera.

 

[chiaRH]

It's nice to see they allow manual mode on G5 wide angle although it's half the megapixels from the main camera. I did use G4 & G5 so I understand how good the manual mode can be.

The G5 owner in my family is my mother, not myself so I can only comment based on my G4 usage but manual mode is essentially a must have unless you only take photos in outdoor daylight or unless you are ok with noisier photos even at low ISO

Shooting auto in low light is bad on LG, too much chroma noise which is why last time I checked what the stock camera app was doing on the G4 to get better auto quality versus 3rd party apps, and found that it was forcing HDR when the light is too low, even if HDR is disabled.

 

[qyc_91]

The G5 owner in my family is my mother, not myself so I can only comment based on my G4 usage but manual mode is essentially a must have unless you only take photos in outdoor daylight or unless you are ok with noisier photos even at low ISO

Shooting auto in low light is bad on LG, too much chroma noise which is why last time I checked what the stock camera app was doing on the G4 to get better auto quality versus 3rd party apps, and found that it was forcing HDR when the light is too low, even if HDR is disabled.

No idea why but I think G4 camera is somehow better than G5. I took some shot previously under the same situation but G5 seems to be over-exposed more with same shutter speed.

 

[qyc_91]

I don't understand why there are so many slamming articles on G5. Anyway, I don't want to understand. G5 is good enough for me as my photos have shown. Mobile phones are all the same, the only difference is the camera.

Probably due to the full re-design. The camera do get praised in most review though

 

[OnLyOnE]

The G5 owner in my family is my mother, not myself so I can only comment based on my G4 usage but manual mode is essentially a must have unless you only take photos in outdoor daylight or unless you are ok with noisier photos even at low ISO

Shooting auto in low light is bad on LG, too much chroma noise which is why last time I checked what the stock camera app was doing on the G4 to get better auto quality versus 3rd party apps, and found that it was forcing HDR when the light is too low, even if HDR is disabled.

I didn't have G4 to compare but when I got the phone, I tried all settings and also found HDR is bad, tons of noise when it's enabled. Now, I don't use Auto unless it is broad daylight and HDR is disabled at all times. I rather spend some time to PP it in snapseed than take the lazy way with HDR.

 

[OnLyOnE]

Probably due to the full re-design. The camera do get praised in most review though

Well, my last LG was optimus 2x, so maybe that's why I don't have such complains. lol.

 

[chiaRH]

Probably due to the full re-design. The camera do get praised in most review though

- screen backlight bleed

- module cover gap

- no battery life improvement (the same 3.5hr SOT since the G3)

- decision to go with paint primer rather than anodization for colouring the phone, under the excuse to hide the antenna lines (other companies like HTC have antenna lines yet the phone design is still good)

- battery much harder to remove compared to the past due to the very firm lock

- camera lens is still lower quality compared to other phones, which results in strong lens flaring if you're too near a light source like lamp posts (admittedly this is a issue 99% of people wont notice)

- emphasis on modular design with a bad implementation (need to power off screen, remove battery)

- failed to advance on the V-10's strengths and actually regressed backwards in some areas (weaker DAC, no manual mode video, no 60FPS 1080p, less durable due to the primer coating)


Of course it has a good camera still, but the competition has caught up since 2015. Now every flagship except sony can do manual mode.

 

[qyc_91]

- screen backlight bleed

- module cover gap

- no battery life improvement (the same 3.5hr SOT since the G3)

- decision to go with paint primer rather than anodization for colouring the phone, under the excuse to hide the antenna lines (other companies like HTC have antenna lines yet the phone design is still good)

- battery much harder to remove compared to the past due to the very firm lock

- camera lens is still lower quality compared to other phones, which results in strong lens flaring if you're too near a light source like lamp posts (admittedly this is a issue 99% of people wont notice)

- emphasis on modular design with a bad implementation (need to power off screen, remove battery)

- failed to advance on the V-10's strengths and actually regressed backwards in some areas (weaker DAC, no manual mode video, no 60FPS 1080p, less durable due to the primer coating)


Of course it has a good camera still, but the competition has caught up since 2015. Now every flagship except sony can do manual mode.

wow it sounds like a full re-design of the phone from internal to external.

 

[chiaRH]

wow it sounds like a full re-design of the phone from internal to external.

i think if i had an older phone i would still be ok to upgrade to the G5, but as a G4 owner, there is nothing to justify the full price to upgrade 1 generation to the G5. There simply arent enough improvements.

 

[OnLyOnE]

- screen backlight bleed

- module cover gap

- no battery life improvement (the same 3.5hr SOT since the G3)

- decision to go with paint primer rather than anodization for colouring the phone, under the excuse to hide the antenna lines (other companies like HTC have antenna lines yet the phone design is still good)

- battery much harder to remove compared to the past due to the very firm lock

- camera lens is still lower quality compared to other phones, which results in strong lens flaring if you're too near a light source like lamp posts (admittedly this is a issue 99% of people wont notice)

- emphasis on modular design with a bad implementation (need to power off screen, remove battery)

- failed to advance on the V-10's strengths and actually regressed backwards in some areas (weaker DAC, no manual mode video, no 60FPS 1080p, less durable due to the primer coating)


Of course it has a good camera still, but the competition has caught up since 2015. Now every flagship except sony can do manual mode.

Okay la, its not a deal breaker for me.

Cover Gap - Mine is very minimum.
Lens Flare - When you look at HTC, you will think G5 is not that bad.
Modular Design - I rather off phone than make my phone fatter.
DAC - Most people are not picky, G5 is still 24bits unless die die must 32bits.
Battery - I rather have a firm lock.
Design - to each their own, for me HTC looks ugly.
Durability - V10 is tough no doubt.
Manual Mode - LG is the only few that can do 30 seconds.

 

[chiaRH]

yeah most of the G5's flaws arent dealbreakers to me either, but a reviewer's job is still to point them out, then its up to the consumer to decide if its within their personal tolerance like whether they need 32 bit audio, or whether they really need 30s exposure, etc.

i just hope the G6 cango back to basics and improve stuff like the camera sensor and battery. The G5 already proved that LG can think of innovative ideas but cannot implement them well at all, until the point where a competitor (motorola) can come and do their modular idea in a better implementation

 

[qyc_91]

i think if i had an older phone i would still be ok to upgrade to the G5, but as a G4 owner, there is nothing to justify the full price to upgrade 1 generation to the G5. There simply arent enough improvements.

partly LG G4 bootloop issue has kept a lot of people away, esp those G4 owners.

 

[qyc_91]

Okay la, its not a deal breaker for me.

Cover Gap - Mine is very minimum.
Lens Flare - When you look at HTC, you will think G5 is not that bad.
Modular Design - I rather off phone than make my phone fatter.
DAC - Most people are not picky, G5 is still 24bits unless die die must 32bits.
Battery - I rather have a firm lock.
Design - to each their own, for me HTC looks ugly.
Durability - V10 is tough no doubt.
Manual Mode - LG is the only few that can do 30 seconds.

I laughed when I saw Asus/HTC manual mode goes 2 seconds maximum.

 

[chiaRH]

I laughed when I saw Asus/HTC manual mode goes 2 seconds maximum.

Funny, the G4's camera2 API support used to be actually a bit sketchy. While the stock app could have shutter speed up to 30s, all 3rd party apps that support manual mode were stuck at the very strange figure of 0.7s.

After the V10C or V10D update I think, the 3rd party apps got their full 30 seconds, but any shutter speed beyond 1 second could not be saved in the EXIF and it would always show nothing.

Regarding Asus I think they need 1-2 more generation of zenfones before they catch up to the market leaders in camera. The zenfone zoom was another half hearted attempt at a phone that catered to photography.