May BTO 2012

[nekomeowmeow]

holy shxx.... now everyone wreck BL...

r u still getting 129?

 

[tanjhj]

holy shxx.... now everyone wreck BL...

to be honest, MT FS per unit wise is better than BL, 4 rooms all dun have neighbours opposite, each corridor have 2 units. this is more peaceful formation. also the kitchen FS is better than BL by alot.

 

[tanjhj]

If you look at all the staircase, there is a door to it in every level.
So unit 105, 121 and 113 will not be facing the stair case directly.

i see your view. bro they may be gate like DBSS city view. metal gate has no FS effect. the Qi will still rush tru it. also 103 105 just avoid as mentioned by 2 FS master.

 

[keithster]

r u still getting 129?

still thinking

hard decision made

 

[tanjhj]

Hi, can pm or post here more about the staircase issue? or do you have any links of FS articles regarding this? and anyway to fix it?

thx thx thx

it seems you chosen a unit which is facing the staircse. this i cant help liao. if the staircase is inside your case like those masonette just placing a windchime will solved the problem. as we can still control what comes in our house. however Qi flowing out of my house is harder to control hence u need a good and reputable FS master to fix. good and reputable one but expensive is Chen Jun rong of wayonnet. his master is one who contain SG FS problem which induce evil and chaos and bring peace to singapore. our singapore green green and octagon road tax disc all is his suggestion. He is also the one that told LKY not to dig tunnels in singapore for MRT but the young lee dun listen and coz our good fortune to leak. The FT problem leeching on spore is the result of the Fortune leaking. It is not LKY btw who bring peace.

 

[tanjhj]

My number is 700+ for kallang/macnair
I'm looking at the door/ stairs issues with much interest, then i realise that all Mcnair flats have no opposite neghbours too (besides no stairs oppo)!
Do you think its possible that we can utilise the space (not to the extend of fixing grilles or cordoning the area) but like having a much bigger shoe cabinet/ put bycycles etc.
not sure if coridoor wide enough?
If its possible i might be skewed toward MT.
the new flats are actually very small, need every and any extra space.

also, want to ask abt you guys abt HDB loan vs bank loan. besides all the pro & con i read abt stability blah blah, all the loan only start to service after handover (2017) right?
so isnt it better that i take hdb loan for now, and wait till 2017 & then decide if want to switch to banks (if interest remains low).
if im to tell hdb im going for private loan now, then 2017 comes, im totally stuck with banks right?

Q1, I have highlighted this in previous threads yes. MT come with a premium because of privacy and lots of extra space for you to put your cabinets. it is possible you can buy the extra corridor in front of your door to extend ur home which will further boost ur cov in the future.

take hdb loan safer and better. in 2016 when u switch to bank loan when needed in the future. u can switch out but can never switch back to hdb

 

[tanjhj]

I also spotted a bad FS design of 4 room BL. other than the opposite neighbour problems and no private corridor, the toilet is next to the kitchen. bad design as it will bring back luck and draw money away for the owner. thou can fix but not totally. MT toilet is located in better position as it is not next to the kitchen and also the layout for dinning table are much better utilised. see the suggested layout to know what i mean.

MT premium is got reason one. more quiet environment, more privacy with private corridor and better space usage and better kitchen and toilet layout


BL

MT

 

[ShengZong]

ya i tot all will be 333010 till Iristan mentioned 10a is 331010, maybe 10b is 332010? anyone took 10b to clarify?

Yes 10B is 332010

 

[nekomeowmeow]

it seems you chosen a unit which is facing the staircse. this i cant help liao. if the staircase is inside your case like those masonette just placing a windchime will solved the problem. as we can still control what comes in our house. however Qi flowing out of my house is harder to control hence u need a good and reputable FS master to fix. good and reputable one but expensive is Chen Jun rong of wayonnet. his master is one who contain SG FS problem which induce evil and chaos and bring peace to singapore. our singapore green green and octagon road tax disc all is his suggestion. He is also the one that told LKY not to dig tunnels in singapore for MRT but the young lee dun listen and coz our good fortune to leak. The FT problem leeching on spore is the result of the Fortune leaking. It is not LKY btw who bring peace.

yeah im in 129
the FS master sounds like will cost an arm and a leg T-T
hopefully the staircase door is a solid door.... *pray pray*

 

[Freedomfighter]

I heard not 1 but various different sources (aunties/ friends etc.) that HDB do not allow ppl to buy the space outside anymore.
Even the brochure clearly states it, i believe they clearly do not want to entertain such queries.
But i think we can still use it without enclosing it. i mean shoe cabinets/ storage cabinets can be 2-3x more than BL?

So i presume all if not most ppl go for HDB loan for now??
I'm for banking loan due to low interest but i was thinking why not secure a HDB loan first, wait until nearing hand over, then make a decision then.
is this thinking correct?

 

[jareon81]

I also spotted a bad FS design of 4 room BL. other than the opposite neighbour problems and no private corridor, the toilet is next to the kitchen. bad design as it will bring back luck and draw money away for the owner. thou can fix but not totally. MT toilet is located in better position as it is not next to the kitchen and also the layout for dinning table are much better utilised. see the suggested layout to know what i mean.

MT premium is got reason one. more quiet environment, more privacy with private corridor and better space usage and better kitchen and toilet layout

Actually I think that being Premium has nothing to do with the layout. If you look at Punggol Opal which is a Standard project, it has a similar layout to McNair Towers. I think it just so happens that the designer chose to make it that way. Also I think that realistically there's not enough space to make an ideal layout.

I did spend quite some time poring through all the 4rm layouts. In particular I was curious why BL had a smaller dining area. In the end I realised that it went to the corridor to the bedrooms which is essentially dead space. You can see that one of the bedrooms for MT opens to the dining area, while all the bedrooms for BL open into the corridor. I would actually prefer all the bedrooms to open to the corridor, but not at a cost of a smaller dining area. It's small enough as it is. In any case the bedrooms are all too small to fit a reasonably sized desk along with everything else that I'd have to designate a room to be the study room anyway. So the bedroom that opens to the dining area would be the best choice.

The MT layout for 270 and 268 have even less dead space as the space for corridor for the entrance of the home is now added to the kitchen. The entrance opens immediately to the living/dining room with no corridor. The household shelter is in the kitchen which makes it more usable, although it probably can't be concealed. Some people conceal the household shelter door behind a feature wall because they think the door is ugly (it is).

The kitchen layout for MT in general better than BL. Particularly 270 and 268's layout where you have almost an additional metre of wall. The BL one has a little kink in the wall so it's not straight all the way through.

Another thing I found interesting about 270 and 268's layout is that the windows in the common toilet all opens outside. For the rest it all opens into the service yard or partially opens into the service yard. Don't see the logic of it opening to the service yard as you would be airing moisture out to the place you are trying to dry your clothes.

Another issue I had with BL is the placement of the air-con ledge. It is placed next to the master bedroom with an access window there. Not only does this mean that you need to run the trunking in the master bedroom, it also means you can't build a wardrobe along that wall, which is why the suggested placement of the wardrobe for BL is kind of awkward, at least to me. Also you can only purchase aircons that can fit through the access window. The air-con ledge for MT has no access window as it is accessible from the service yard. The trunking will probably have to go through the master bedroom toilet, but this will probably be okay as you need trunking to the drainage anyway.

Probably the only interesting thing about BL's layout is that you can designate the bedroom beside the master bedroom to be a walk-in-wardrobe just by shifting the door.

But regardless, all the rooms in both BL and MT are just way too small. The floorplans don't look that bad, but once you see it with the dimensions... you realise how tiny it is.

 

[tanjhj]

yeah im in 129
the FS master sounds like will cost an arm and a leg T-T
hopefully the staircase door is a solid door.... *pray pray*

even if it is a solid door u still need the FS master to fixed the FS of 129. there is more issue with 129 than just the staircase thingy.

bad FS if dun fixed is more than cost u a leg and an arm. dun save on things that can be save you on bigger problems. too many things abt 129 but i am not a FS master so i just leave it to the expert.

Well four room floor cost around few hundred bah so wont cost u a bomb.

Singapore Feng Shui Centre - Photo Gallery

this guy is quite good too. he can issue certificate in FS which he work with SP.

i read his FS book also, not a bad teacher.

 

[tanjhj]

Actually I think that being Premium has nothing to do with the layout. If you look at Punggol Opal which is a Standard project, it has a similar layout to McNair Towers. I think it just so happens that the designer chose to make it that way. Also I think that realistically there's not enough space to make an ideal layout.

I did spend quite some time poring through all the 4rm layouts. In particular I was curious why BL had a smaller dining area. In the end I realised that it went to the corridor to the bedrooms which is essentially dead space. You can see that one of the bedrooms for MT opens to the dining area, while all the bedrooms for BL open into the corridor. I would actually prefer all the bedrooms to open to the corridor, but not at a cost of a smaller dining area. It's small enough as it is. In any case the bedrooms are all too small to fit a reasonably sized desk along with everything else that I'd have to designate a room to be the study room anyway. So the bedroom that opens to the dining area would be the best choice.

The MT layout for 270 and 268 have even less dead space as the space for corridor for the entrance of the home is now added to the kitchen. The entrance opens immediately to the living/dining room with no corridor. The household shelter is in the kitchen which makes it more usable, although it probably can't be concealed. Some people conceal the household shelter door behind a feature wall because they think the door is ugly (it is).

The kitchen layout for MT in general better than BL. Particularly 270 and 268's layout where you have almost an additional metre of wall. The BL one has a little kink in the wall so it's not straight all the way through.

Another thing I found interesting about 270 and 268's layout is that the windows in the common toilet all opens outside. For the rest it all opens into the service yard or partially opens into the service yard. Don't see the logic of it opening to the service yard as you would be airing moisture out to the place you are trying to dry your clothes.

Another issue I had with BL is the placement of the air-con ledge. It is placed next to the master bedroom with an access window there. Not only does this mean that you need to run the trunking in the master bedroom, it also means you can't build a wardrobe along that wall, which is why the suggested placement of the wardrobe for BL is kind of awkward, at least to me. Also you can only purchase aircons that can fit through the access window. The air-con ledge for MT has no access window as it is accessible from the service yard. The trunking will probably have to go through the master bedroom toilet, but this will probably be okay as you need trunking to the drainage anyway.

Probably the only interesting thing about BL's layout is that you can designate the bedroom beside the master bedroom to be a walk-in-wardrobe just by shifting the door.

But regardless, all the rooms in both BL and MT are just way too small. The floorplans don't look that bad, but once you see it with the dimensions... you realise how tiny it is.

and our beloved Mr Cow say our flat never shrink over the years, now we paying a million for a tiny flats which will get smaller and smaller. TY P@P

 

[tanjhj]

Actually I think that being Premium has nothing to do with the layout. If you look at Punggol Opal which is a Standard project, it has a similar layout to McNair Towers. I think it just so happens that the designer chose to make it that way. Also I think that realistically there's not enough space to make an ideal layout.

I did spend quite some time poring through all the 4rm layouts. In particular I was curious why BL had a smaller dining area. In the end I realised that it went to the corridor to the bedrooms which is essentially dead space. You can see that one of the bedrooms for MT opens to the dining area, while all the bedrooms for BL open into the corridor. I would actually prefer all the bedrooms to open to the corridor, but not at a cost of a smaller dining area. It's small enough as it is. In any case the bedrooms are all too small to fit a reasonably sized desk along with everything else that I'd have to designate a room to be the study room anyway. So the bedroom that opens to the dining area would be the best choice.

The MT layout for 270 and 268 have even less dead space as the space for corridor for the entrance of the home is now added to the kitchen. The entrance opens immediately to the living/dining room with no corridor. The household shelter is in the kitchen which makes it more usable, although it probably can't be concealed. Some people conceal the household shelter door behind a feature wall because they think the door is ugly (it is).

The kitchen layout for MT in general better than BL. Particularly 270 and 268's layout where you have almost an additional metre of wall. The BL one has a little kink in the wall so it's not straight all the way through.

Another thing I found interesting about 270 and 268's layout is that the windows in the common toilet all opens outside. For the rest it all opens into the service yard or partially opens into the service yard. Don't see the logic of it opening to the service yard as you would be airing moisture out to the place you are trying to dry your clothes.

Another issue I had with BL is the placement of the air-con ledge. It is placed next to the master bedroom with an access window there. Not only does this mean that you need to run the trunking in the master bedroom, it also means you can't build a wardrobe along that wall, which is why the suggested placement of the wardrobe for BL is kind of awkward, at least to me. Also you can only purchase aircons that can fit through the access window. The air-con ledge for MT has no access window as it is accessible from the service yard. The trunking will probably have to go through the master bedroom toilet, but this will probably be okay as you need trunking to the drainage anyway.

Probably the only interesting thing about BL's layout is that you can designate the bedroom beside the master bedroom to be a walk-in-wardrobe just by shifting the door.

But regardless, all the rooms in both BL and MT are just way too small. The floorplans don't look that bad, but once you see it with the dimensions... you realise how tiny it is.

in FS point of view a small kitchen means less money, bigger kitchen is better and means more money. however not too big of coz. BL has smaller kitchen than MT. MT kitchen FS settings are better. PEriod.

 

[jolby11]

in FS point of view a small kitchen means less money, bigger kitchen is better and means more money. however not too big of coz. BL has smaller kitchen than MT. MT kitchen FS settings are better. PEriod.

Hi!! can you help to advise the FS for unit 131 and 117? and also for 131 is there any view for it compared to 129? coz there isnt much unit to choose..

Also for MT, is there any unit that comes with good FS and view?


thanks.

 

[tanjhj]

Actually I think that being Premium has nothing to do with the layout. If you look at Punggol Opal which is a Standard project, it has a similar layout to McNair Towers. I think it just so happens that the designer chose to make it that way. Also I think that realistically there's not enough space to make an ideal layout.

I did spend quite some time poring through all the 4rm layouts. In particular I was curious why BL had a smaller dining area. In the end I realised that it went to the corridor to the bedrooms which is essentially dead space. You can see that one of the bedrooms for MT opens to the dining area, while all the bedrooms for BL open into the corridor. I would actually prefer all the bedrooms to open to the corridor, but not at a cost of a smaller dining area. It's small enough as it is. In any case the bedrooms are all too small to fit a reasonably sized desk along with everything else that I'd have to designate a room to be the study room anyway. So the bedroom that opens to the dining area would be the best choice.

The MT layout for 270 and 268 have even less dead space as the space for corridor for the entrance of the home is now added to the kitchen. The entrance opens immediately to the living/dining room with no corridor. The household shelter is in the kitchen which makes it more usable, although it probably can't be concealed. Some people conceal the household shelter door behind a feature wall because they think the door is ugly (it is).

The kitchen layout for MT in general better than BL. Particularly 270 and 268's layout where you have almost an additional metre of wall. The BL one has a little kink in the wall so it's not straight all the way through.

Another thing I found interesting about 270 and 268's layout is that the windows in the common toilet all opens outside. For the rest it all opens into the service yard or partially opens into the service yard. Don't see the logic of it opening to the service yard as you would be airing moisture out to the place you are trying to dry your clothes.

Another issue I had with BL is the placement of the air-con ledge. It is placed next to the master bedroom with an access window there. Not only does this mean that you need to run the trunking in the master bedroom, it also means you can't build a wardrobe along that wall, which is why the suggested placement of the wardrobe for BL is kind of awkward, at least to me. Also you can only purchase aircons that can fit through the access window. The air-con ledge for MT has no access window as it is accessible from the service yard. The trunking will probably have to go through the master bedroom toilet, but this will probably be okay as you need trunking to the drainage anyway.

Probably the only interesting thing about BL's layout is that you can designate the bedroom beside the master bedroom to be a walk-in-wardrobe just by shifting the door.

But regardless, all the rooms in both BL and MT are just way too small. The floorplans don't look that bad, but once you see it with the dimensions... you realise how tiny it is.

i noticed the aircon installation will be ugly with lots of trunking cutting the rooms. messy. thats why i dun like BL now but i 3 rooms, both mt and BL have problem with aircon trunking.

 

[farmer71]

As of today 4 room.
Total units :888
Unit still available : 437
Selection Q number : 579
total number of selected unit 888 - 437= 451
total number of drop out 579- 451 = 128
% drop out is 128/579 x100% = 22.11%
And base on the Ethnic Quota
Chinese : 350
Malay :180
Others : 68

If all remaining unit from tomorrow is selected by Chinese the last q number before the ethnic Quota for Chinese is reach would be 579+ 350= 929.

And should there be no more drop out the q number will end @ 888+ 128 = 1016

 

[huishann]

i noticed the aircon installation will be ugly with lots of trunking cutting the rooms. messy. thats why i dun like BL now but i 3 rooms, both mt and BL have problem with aircon trunking.

sorry but how do you look at the trunking from the layout ?

 

[tanjhj]

sorry but how do you look at the trunking from the layout ?

just imagine how the aircon trunking will run. definately have to tear holes thru the walls to connect the rooms. i just installed new aircon in my current flat so i discuss on how the trunking runs in the house.

 

[tanjhj]

Hi!! can you help to advise the FS for unit 131 and 117? and also for 131 is there any view for it compared to 129? coz there isnt much unit to choose..

Also for MT, is there any unit that comes with good FS and view?


thanks.

131 no view FS average at best. 117 better but no stock liao.

MT good units are alot just dun get those 4 rooms facing the suns and also low level units around the mscp is nono. view wise you can see previous threads by me and others on the future views and potential blocking of views by new projects