May BTO 2012

[xun84]

6 application failed. Hmmm. Wonder does anyone know hdb balloting algorithm notwithstanding the no of chances etc.

 

[reddevil82]

6 application failed. Hmmm. Wonder does anyone know hdb balloting algorithm notwithstanding the no of chances etc.

itz ok, i know of people 8 or more times...

 

[GamerZ]

6 application failed. Hmmm. Wonder does anyone know hdb balloting algorithm notwithstanding the no of chances etc.

This BTO i got 5 chances for CCK only because 2 application I applied for Clementi so both fail and hence no extra chances.

 

[jeffcech]

Based on the application rate for first timer for 5 room cck, i heard that first timers sure get a number within the total number of units. but number may still not be good. means might be the last number also.

is lidat meh? i thought based on the 1st timer, 2nd timer thing, not possible that a first timer is the last number..

dont know how this works.

 

[reddevil82]

Based on the application rate for first timer for 5 room cck, i heard that first timers sure get a number within the total number of units. but number may still not be good. means might be the last number also.

is lidat meh? i thought based on the 1st timer, 2nd timer thing, not possible that a first timer is the last number..

dont know how this works.

hmm no leh, i 1st time in Mar BTO, also get number out of total number of units...

 

[jeffcech]

hmm no leh, i 1st time in Mar BTO, also get number out of total number of units...

was it the same rate as cck 5 room? the first timer application rate is only 0.7

 

[babylana]

was it the same rate as cck 5 room? the first timer application rate is only 0.7

Not accurate de...
I 1st timer ballot 4 times liao number all exceeded. Even the mar got 6 balloting chances oso exceeded
..
& all applications r being ballot under 1pool so if there r more 2nd timers, u might nt b in range oso..

 

[nrsa.2010]

6 application failed. Hmmm. Wonder does anyone know hdb balloting algorithm notwithstanding the no of chances etc.

6 time failed means u all rejecting low floors or the q no exceeds?? why not u all appeal to hdb??

 

[GamerZ]

Not accurate de...
I 1st timer ballot 4 times liao number all exceeded. Even the mar got 6 balloting chances oso exceeded
..
& all applications r being ballot under 1pool so if there r more 2nd timers, u might nt b in range oso..

really? I heard from HDB side via email is that if first timer rate 1.0 or less, chances of getting it is almost a certain.

 

[reddevil82]

really? I heard from HDB side via email is that if first timer rate 1.0 or less, chances of getting it is almost a certain.

HDB reserves 85%/95% for 1st timers... so if total units is 100, abt 95 units will be for first timers.

this means that if the BTO first timer ratio is less than 1.0 (undersubscribed), there are less than 95 first timers for the BTO exercise. That is almost impossible as every exercise it is always oversubscribed.

 

[YM]

reddevil82,

care to share how does hdb calculate the ratio for the punggol 5 room?
422 units
1049 applications
1.3 first timer
9.0 second timer

85% of 422 = 358.7 flats reserved for first timer
15% of 422 = 63.3 flats reserved for second timer

1.3 * 358.7 = 466.31 first timer applicants
9.0 * 63.3 = 569.7 second timer applicants

total = 466.31 + 569.7 = 1036.01 which is still short of the 1049 applicants

 

[GamerZ]

HDB reserves 85%/95% for 1st timers... so if total units is 100, abt 95 units will be for first timers.

this means that if the BTO first timer ratio is less than 1.0 (undersubscribed), there are less than 95 first timers for the BTO exercise. That is almost impossible as every exercise it is always oversubscribed.

for CCK, first timer ratio is only 0.7. Total ratio is 1.2

 

[jingguok]

HDB reserves 85%/95% for 1st timers... so if total units is 100, abt 95 units will be for first timers.

this means that if the BTO first timer ratio is less than 1.0 (undersubscribed), there are less than 95 first timers for the BTO exercise. That is almost impossible as every exercise it is always oversubscribed.

but first timer application for CCK 4 room and 5 room is special case ,the rate is 0.9 and 0.7 only, definitly can got a unit .

kallang 3 rooms application ( first timer) also base on 1.0 rate.

 

[reddevil82]

reddevil82,

care to share how does hdb calculate the ratio for the punggol 5 room?
422 units
1049 applications
1.3 first timer
9.0 second timer

85% of 422 = 358.7 flats reserved for first timer
15% of 422 = 63.3 flats reserved for second timer

1.3 * 358.7 = 466.31 first timer applicants
9.0 * 63.3 = 569.7 second timer applicants

total = 466.31 + 569.7 = 1036.01 which is still short of the 1049 applicants

Hmm based on this formula if u calculate overall subscriber rate (2.5), the number of applicants will end up as 1055, more than what is stated (1049).

 

[a1vin1983]

HDB reserves 85%/95% for 1st timers... so if total units is 100, abt 95 units will be for first timers.

this means that if the BTO first timer ratio is less than 1.0 (undersubscribed), there are less than 95 first timers for the BTO exercise. That is almost impossible as every exercise it is always oversubscribed.

Adding on ,

Example 100 Units
95% goes to 1st timer,
5 % goes to 2nd timer.
means : 95 units will be allocated to 1st timer & 5 units to 2nd timer

From number 101 onward, There will not be 1st timer priority already... all mixed up.

AS for the ratio.
Example 100 Units
95% goes to 1st timer,
5 % goes to 2nd timer.
1.0 for 1st timer, 100 applications are 1st timer, which means 5 couples will be out of the 100 range Q number.

Hope it helps & Correct me if im wrong.

Cheers

 

[reddevil82]

Adding on ,

Example 100 Units
95% goes to 1st timer,
5 % goes to 2nd timer.
means : 95 units will be allocated to 1st timer & 5 units to 2nd timer

From number 101 onward, There will not be 1st timer priority already... all mixed up.

AS for the ratio.
Example 100 Units
95% goes to 1st timer,
5 % goes to 2nd timer.
1.0 for 1st timer, 100 applications are 1st timer, which means 5 couples will be out of the 100 range Q number.

Hope it helps & Correct me if im wrong.

Cheers

Meaning ballot #1-#100 confirmed is 95 first timers and 5 2nd timers, #101 onwards it is all mixed...

 

[jingguok]

for my understanding:
1,AS for the ratio.
Example 100 Units
95% goes to 1st timer,
5 % goes to 2nd timer.
1.0 for 1st timer, 95 applications are 1st timer, 95 units will be allocated to 1st timer
1.5 for 2nd timer ,5x1.5=7.5~8 application are 2nd timer,which means 2-3 couples will be out of the 100 range Q number.

2,AS for the ratio.
Example 100 Units
95% goes to 1st timer,
5 % goes to 2nd timer.
0.9 for 1st timer,0.9x95%=86 applications are 1st timer, 86 units will be allocated to 1st timer .
left 95-86=9 units will be allocated to 2nd timer.
thus ,5+9=14units for 2nd timer

copy from HDB page below:
2. *First-timer application rate refers to the number of first-timer applications divided by 85%/95% of the total flat supply in non-mature/mature estates, while second-timer application rate refers to the number of second-timer applications divided by 15%/5% of the total flat supply in non-mature/mature estates. (However, some flats are also set aside for quota-based priority schemes, where HDB does not differentiate between first-timers and second-timers. If there are fewer first-timers than the number of flats set aside for them, the excess flats will be allocated to second-timers.)

 

[0rangey]

Any idea when the result will be out?

 

[GamerZ]

Any idea when the result will be out?

For March BTO, the result is out on Friday

 

[jingguok]

Any idea when the result will be out?

for march ,ruselt was out on FRI 20apr12

for may,ruselt will out end of jun12 from HDB letter..