May BTO 2012

[shadow82]

anybody know how will hdb inform on the status of the ballot? really dont want them to mail it to my current address on my ic

When u apply tat time,the add u put in the correspondance add tat column is the add they will send the results to lor. N the e mail add u provided as well. normally e mail is much faster then mail.

 

[99heyho]

When u apply tat time,the add u put in the correspondance add tat column is the add they will send the results to lor. N the e mail add u provided as well. normally e mail is much faster then mail.

oh yea..didnt realise that..

by the way i intend to apply under the married child priority scheme as my parents live around 2km from 1 of the bto projects.

if i were to apply under the scheme, will they inform my parents on the application? or do any background check which would lead them to knowing about the application?

cause intend to keep this away from them for now.

 

[northy]

Hi,
HLE is needed at the 2nd appt (Signing of Lease of agreement). It should be normally 4 mths after ur 1st appt( selection of flat,pay option fee tat 1).

However, for my case,i applied for the HLE during my 1st appt. I selected in march then may they call me for 2nd appt le. veri random de. So my HLE was still valid. Btw, HLE is valid for 3mths only. I tink gt pple encounter issue whereby their HLE expire b4 their 2nd appt cm. Not sure hw they resolved their issue but I tink if ur pay remains the same n u dun lose ur job,i dun tink its much of a issue. The intent is juz to make sure u dun bite off more than u can chew in terms of financing. Clarify with HDB lor juz to be sure. Anw,u need to reapply HLE when get key tat time cos need to settle the remaining of the loan le. Hope this helps.

Thanks for your reply! Mine is expiring today. Think I'll wait till select flat (if I get to select) thn apply.

 

[northy]

Morning peas! finally the submission has closed. Punggol 1st timer rate is 1.1. does tt mean 1.1 couple fighting for 1 unit? PRAY hard for good nbr everyone!

 

[wilfred]

Morning peas! finally the submission has closed. Punggol 1st timer rate is 1.1. does tt mean 1.1 couple fighting for 1 unit? PRAY hard for good nbr everyone!

It's almost 100% certain you can choose a unit. Just pray hard gettinga good Q number.





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[ckleow79]

There are 2 type of married scheme. staying near parents have 2 extra chances. Staying with parents have 4 extra chances.








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Did you indicate that your parents are essential occupier(s)?

 

[babylana]

It's almost 100% certain you can choose a unit. Just pray hard gettinga good Q number.





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for balloting process, all applicants (1st & 2nd timers) are being balloted together for the Q no.

but when u go select ur unit, HDB only recognizes the Q no allocated to u... so even if there are more 2nd timers infront of u but lesser units allocated for them (in theory), they will still able to select a unit in the event they do not reject the selection.

i.e: 100 4 room units available

15% allocated for 2nd timers
85% allocated for 1st timers

(both senerios based on non matured estates)

u as a 1st timer got Q 50

if there are more than 15% 2nd timers infront of u, they (ALL) will still be able to select a unit if they do not reject the seelction.

this 1st / 2nd timer quota is not as strict as the enthic quota.

 

[GamerZ]

CCK 5-room first timer is 0.6!

 

[icedgreentea]

lol cant wait.. im balloting for the punggol one too. guess the results shld be out last week of june..

 

[Artie]

All the best to those who have applied for this month BTO. Cheers

 

[wilfred]

for balloting process, all applicants (1st & 2nd timers) are being balloted together for the Q no.

but when u go select ur unit, HDB only recognizes the Q no allocated to u... so even if there are more 2nd timers infront of u but lesser units allocated for them (in theory), they will still able to select a unit in the event they do not reject the selection.

i.e: 100 4 room units available

15% allocated for 2nd timers
85% allocated for 1st timers

(both senerios based on non matured estates)

u as a 1st timer got Q 50

if there are more than 15% 2nd timers infront of u, they (ALL) will still be able to select a unit if they do not reject the seelction.

this 1st / 2nd timer quota is not as strict as the enthic quota.

This how the queue number works. Eg, there are 100 units available. There are 100 1st timer and 50 2nd timer, all will be initially lumped together and assigned a Q number. Those who have 2 or more chances will also be assigned 2 or more queue numbers. Then the system will eliminate those higher Q numbers for those who have more than 1 chance. In the scenario if the 1st timer has 87 applicants and 2nd timer has 13 applicants in the 1st 100 Q number, 2 of the highest Q number from 1st timer will be moved to Q number 101 to 102 and these 2 will be replaced by 2nd timer placing them at 99 to 100 to make up the quota of 85% for 1st timer and 15% for 2nd timer for the 1st 100th places. Those 2 empty slots after moving away 1st timer will be filled by moving down the Q numbers for those above them so that 99 & 100 will become empty for the 2 best 2nd timer above 100 to fill up those spots. Then HDB will announce the final Q numbers allocated to all.





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[babylana]

This how the queue number works. Eg, there are 100 units available. There are 100 1st timer and 50 2nd timer, all will be initially lumped together and assigned a Q number. Those who have 2 or more chances will also be assigned 2 or more queue numbers. Then the system will eliminate those higher Q numbers for those who have more than 1 chance. In the scenario if the 1st timer has 87 applicants and 2nd timer has 13 applicants in the 1st 100 Q number, 2 of the highest Q number from 1st timer will be moved to Q number 101 to 102 and these 2 will be replaced by 2nd timer placing them at 99 to 100 to make up the quota of 85% for 1st timer and 15% for 2nd timer for the 1st 100th places. Those 2 empty slots after moving away 1st timer will be filled by moving down the Q numbers for those above them so that 99 & 100 will become empty for the 2 best 2nd timer above 100 to fill up those spots. Then HDB will announce the final Q numbers allocated to all.


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err... fyi, I got 6 balloting chance in Mar SBF (i am a 1st timer) but i only gotten 1 Q no. which greatly exceeds the no. of units available. (68/27) - currently nw left 3 units for Mar SBF in the estate i applied for & its not even my turn yet....

my other 2 frends applied in the same estate, (2nd timers) got to select a unit last 2 weeks.... when the quota for 2nd timers is only 1 unit (5%). the remaining 26 units are for 1st timers...

so tell me, how does ur balloting works in this real situation? i even got reply from HDB that due to overwhelming response for the estate, not ALL 1st timers are guranteed w a small Q no.

so... i kinda questioned this to HDB & cc to my MPs ... nw waiting for reply...

 

[Kaleen]

err... fyi, I got 6 balloting chance in Mar SBF (i am a 1st timer) but i only gotten 1 Q no. which greatly exceeds the no. of units available. (68/27) - currently nw left 3 units for Mar SBF in the estate i applied for & its not even my turn yet....

my other 2 frends applied in the same estate, (2nd timers) got to select a unit last 2 weeks.... when the quota for 2nd timers is only 1 unit (5%). the remaining 26 units are for 1st timers...

so tell me, how does ur balloting works in this real situation? i even got reply from HDB that due to overwhelming response for the estate, not ALL 1st timers are guranteed w a small Q no.

so... i kinda questioned this to HDB & cc to my MPs ... nw waiting for reply...

Mph no use one... Cause your not the first to experience this... Get over it... This is how lame hdb is...

 

[F3Rm1nat0r]

This how the queue number works. Eg, there are 100 units available. There are 100 1st timer and 50 2nd timer, all will be initially lumped together and assigned a Q number. Those who have 2 or more chances will also be assigned 2 or more queue numbers. Then the system will eliminate those higher Q numbers for those who have more than 1 chance. In the scenario if the 1st timer has 87 applicants and 2nd timer has 13 applicants in the 1st 100 Q number, 2 of the highest Q number from 1st timer will be moved to Q number 101 to 102 and these 2 will be replaced by 2nd timer placing them at 99 to 100 to make up the quota of 85% for 1st timer and 15% for 2nd timer for the 1st 100th places. Those 2 empty slots after moving away 1st timer will be filled by moving down the Q numbers for those above them so that 99 & 100 will become empty for the 2 best 2nd timer above 100 to fill up those spots. Then HDB will announce the final Q numbers allocated to all.





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haizzz not this debate again :wobble:

 

[Artie]

More ballot chances does not guarantee u the queue number.
It just merely increase ur chances of getting one.

 

[wilfred]

err... fyi, I got 6 balloting chance in Mar SBF (i am a 1st timer) but i only gotten 1 Q no. which greatly exceeds the no. of units available. (68/27) - currently nw left 3 units for Mar SBF in the estate i applied for & its not even my turn yet....

my other 2 frends applied in the same estate, (2nd timers) got to select a unit last 2 weeks.... when the quota for 2nd timers is only 1 unit (5%). the remaining 26 units are for 1st timers...

so tell me, how does ur balloting works in this real situation? i even got reply from HDB that due to overwhelming response for the estate, not ALL 1st timers are guranteed w a small Q no.

so... i kinda questioned this to HDB & cc to my MPs ... nw waiting for reply...

This is possible. What's the Q number of your friends? Is one of them higher than 27? One of your friends might get the Q number of higher than 27, may be at 30s. Then there's some 1st timer gave up selecting the flat and then your friend with Q number at 30s get the chance to select the flat.

But if both your friends got Q number of less than 27, then there's something very wrong and you should question hdb and MPs regarding this.



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[babylana]

This is possible. What's the Q number of your friends? Is one of them higher than 27? One of your friends might get the Q number of higher than 27, may be at 30s. Then there's some 1st timer gave up selecting the flat and then your friend with Q number at 30s get the chance to select the flat.

But if both your friends got Q number of less than 27, then there's something very wrong and you should question hdb and MPs regarding this.


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they got less than Q 27...... but the point is not the Q no... the point is Y 2 (min) 2nd timers r allowed to select their units when only 1 unit are allocated for 2nd timers?? **BLUR**

 

[Artie]

they got less than Q 27...... but the point is not the Q no... the point is Y 2 (min) 2nd timers r allowed to select their units when only 1 unit are allocated for 2nd timers?? **BLUR**

They could be applying through other schemes such as married child scheme or stay with parent scheme etc.

 

[wilfred]

They could be applying through other schemes such as married child scheme or stay with parent scheme etc.

Applying through other schemes does not give better Q number, only have more chances. Looks like in this case HDB were rounding up the 2nd timer to 2. not too sure about this though.





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[wilfred]

they got less than Q 27...... but the point is not the Q no... the point is Y 2 (min) 2nd timers r allowed to select their units when only 1 unit are allocated for 2nd timers?? **BLUR**

This look very strange. I assume you are certain that both of your friends are 2nd timer as not all who own a flat now applying for new flat is classified as 2nd timer esp for those who did not take any grant buying resale flats previously. I also feel BLUR on this issue now.