Nepal-Tibet flash flood

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https://www.scmp.com/news/china/pol...-border-post?module=top_story&pgtype=homepage

Widely reported on Chinese Media. See video.
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Read the room. This is an unprecedented disaster.

If China is already sending top-notched rescuers on site, ground excavation machines, live monitoring with images, why are you requoting BBC/CNN/Guardian/CNBC anti-China propaganda? If you don't have access to Chinese social media inside their Great Firewall, then shut up about their social media and just donate money to the victims.

Your nitpicking behaviour is a disgrace to all Singaporeans.

read the room urself. call something an unprecedented disaster does not make official numbers, transparency or public scrutiny off-limits.

no death or victim figures and data that can be scrutinied by public, there is no foundation for accountability. imagine with no nepal side open media report about the rising human losses u wouldnt know the exact scale of the disaster. 5 deaths? can be ignored n downplayed. when the list is vague responsibility also becomes vague as well.

their media showing machinery lined up and rescuers using sticks and bare hands are all over the internet even outside fire wall. prchina is of course not doing nothing. it is about what the official coverage deliberately excludes and what that exclusion reveals.
 
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This is nonsense. All glaciers are constantly being pushed down the mountain melting into river. Even in Antarctica. Only the bacteria in permafrost buried deep underground then not exposed for tens of thousands
 

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u mean this 6-7 PRC rescue superhero team that took 54 hrs to reach with abilities to detect lives with just bare hands and sticks r doing meaningless things scouring the valley port?


Gosh, this is so wrong of you, someone behind a keyboard, to criticise a rescue worker of a disaster.. any rescue worker..

Don't you have basic empathy of how difficult other people's job is? :mad:

Boo (n)
 

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This Muyang is anti China. He is always spreading lies about Xi dying, toppled by coup, wife having affairs.. None of them is true yet got the cheek to continue posting...
 

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Gosh, this is so wrong of you, someone behind a keyboard, to criticise a rescue worker of a disaster.. any rescue worker..

Don't you have basic empathy of how difficult other people's job is? :mad:

Boo (n)

well it takes another person sitting behind keyboard to question another. ur empathy is with the families or the defending the official narratives? families of the missing want survivors and the dead recovered as quickly as possible. i prefer to question whether the response is as fast and effective. u obviously belong to the latter
 

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well it takes another person sitting behind keyboard to question another. ur empathy is with the families or the defending the official narratives? families of the missing want survivors and the dead recovered as quickly as possible. i prefer to question whether the response is as fast and effective. u obviously belong to the latter

You obviously don't understand others.

The rescue worker do not owe anyone anything. Certainly do not owe you an explanation of what he do in the treacherous disaster zone, while you continuing posting in your comfort bedroom.
 

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No chance finding the missing liao, high chance buried under many meters of mud somewhere.

Maybe 200 years from now might turn up somewhere in an archaeological dig and end up in museum.
 

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This is why I don't use Instagram as sole source of news. Need secondary supporting sources.
X is better. Also have Grok AI to fact-check.
Then again. This is more of an opinion than news.

I would suggest to read many, if. Not all sides of the story to decide own stand
 

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Think go to higher ground practical sense should be abandon all transports and climb the hill slope as fast as possible. Take the shortest and fastest way to higher ground, to gain as much height in the shortest of time.

Probably not wise to take the road also. For water take the easier path that is the road downhill. Hard to outrun the water also. And the road likely would be choked also, by other vehicles trying to escape the same.

Saw one of the video few vehicles trying to escape from riverside, at the T-intersection where the road turn uphill and downhill, the first vehicle took the uphill route only to almost immediately face the full force of the flood few seconds later.

The other vehicles behind saw the first vehicle turned uphill at first stopped and hesistated, thinking whether to follow or not. By the time the first vehicle realised the mistake saw the water coming and try to back out, it was already too late, as the rest of the vehicles behind blocked the path liao. Think end up all went under the water.

As for the border, abit confused what was CN side thinking. For the initial video showed the people scrambling to safety before the flood hit. Meaning they knew of the incoming (not sure how much time they have as the video started only from the 30s mark before the flood hit and the people were already running then).

So, can't helped wonder how much or any warning have they gave to the rest upstream or downstream before being hit by the full force of the mud and debris flood.

Anyway, think CN most of the casualties would be at the border and the immediate area surrounding the border. The border was at the T-intersection where the flood go uphill is CN, downhill is NP. The force of the water might have force some water uphill to CN side, but most of it still would go downhill to NP.

Think at least got few hundreds people at the border and immediate area bah. CN most of the rescue effort seems concentrated there, no town or village seems affected on CN side, only the border area.

And given the photos shown, the area all covered under mud and debris liao. And it being the first point of impact of the water coming down before made a turn for much of NP downstream. Likely most of the few hundreds people on CN side hard to survive bah. Now is only to recover and identify.
Agreed. Going higher round is the safest way. Have seen a few video of the immigration port area. If i am at that border for the first time and suddenly alarm sound off saying run run, looking at the surrounding area, i also dunno where to run to. Most of the surrounding area at CN end has this retaining wall structure (like a SOC low wall). Only saw this small opening at the corner from the drone shot video. Likely this goes up to where the CCTV was being placed. I guess the people see in the video are running because they hear very loud rumbling sound coming in.

July 2025 flash flood drone video shot at the same exact area.


The slope that people need to climb up where the camera was being placed. And likely need to climb 12-15 story high within that few mins as they will be flying rock debris from the flashflood. Possible but in the moment of panic, ppl telling you to run run, most ppl will just monkey see monkey do and follow other ppl.
 

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There shouldn't be any doubt that china is downplaying the event. This is just like wuhan virus, did anyone in the world trust china offical account of the virus outbreak? Ccp china has always down playing any major disaster to prevent public panic and cover up any accountability of their failure related to the event.

There is logical reason for people like forum users here to be interested in the numbers of victims in this flood, this is a natural disaster. People who are not at site need tangible account like the number of victims to know the scale of the flood. Don't know why got people get upset at people asking for creditable numbers.
 

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u mean this 6-7 PRC rescue superhero team that took 54 hrs to reach with abilities to detect lives with just bare hands and sticks r doing meaningless things scouring the valley port?

Village buildings are down there. They pre-located all the villages from the satellite and rush down to rescue alredi, what u want them to do wor, yes below the mud is the buried village.

Not much they can do, heavy life detection or saving equipment is not practical anymore and can't be transported or utilized in this kind of landscape.
 

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Village buildings are down there. They pre-located all the villages from the satellite and rush down to rescue alredi, what u want them to do wor, yes below the mud is the buried village.

Not much they can do, heavy life detection or saving equipment is not practical anymore and can't be transported or utilized in this kind of landscape.
here we go, so u agree shouting and expecting a response from the dead people under the mud in this area is pure theatrics? better than certain guy tryting here to convince people that he has empathy oozing out from the screen he is behind
 

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Village buildings are down there. They pre-located all the villages from the satellite and rush down to rescue alredi, what u want them to do wor, yes below the mud is the buried village.

Not much they can do, heavy life detection or saving equipment is not practical anymore and can't be transported or utilized in this kind of landscape.

Ya need to understand the situation at the ground, which the rescuers would be more clear than us what to do. That's why no point here scrutinising them and saying should do this should not do this.
 

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Those buried will become fossil fuel for millions years to come
 
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