New and Improved MM2H

OngHuatHuat

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Best is DO NOT convert!

some of my uncle’s wife stupid being brainwashed go and convert
Now kpkb and super regret now!

in future in order to avoid hard life under crazy inflation and overpopulation
Only option is to go to boleland….
Yes, my home town wanton mee only RM 6.50 and it is super sedap and very big bowl.
 

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I have been entering and exit (I spend 3 to 4 days every week insai my Malaysia home) no problem.

I also have my own vehicle there
Hi moonraiser, so u love few days in SG, and the other days in JB? Thought u have a FT job here in SG?

Ha ha then those petrol warriors how come never get blocked? they have to in and out at least once a week or more! You actually just speculating?

Typical EDMWER speculator trying to pour cold water on duck's back and not speak from real life experience.
Maybe their case they enter n leave, the hours are short and the reason of pump petrol would be valid. If say i wanna make a daily run (lesve Msia to come back SG work, then night go back) , MAYBE the Msia customs will tekan ...

Sporean. My Sil bought a house at Bt Indah. True. Foreigners not suppose to live in JB. If wish to then go apply MM2H. Foreigners can buy msian cars.
Ur SIL is msian? For urself, do u daily in and out of JB?
 

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Too many caveats and unstable factors in this MM2H.

This MM2H is not new and has been around since 2002. So many times were Sinkies wishful but reality often seemed far from what they imagined.


If we refer to the original MM2H, some concerns are likely transferred to this new version.

1. The 5 year option to renew, doesn't mean surely renewed. Imagine 1 million people from China send in an application, their Bumi-instinct won't react?

2. During renewal, there's no guarantee of no changes in requirements. This could ask for fresh funds, they could restrict age, etc.

3. In the original MM2H, medical report is required. This suggests to me that medically sick PR could be rejected. So this dashes the dream of retirement in Malaysia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_My_Second_Home

4. The govt in Malaysia, is unstable. The tourist minister is a Chinese, what if PAS or a Muslim takes over the next time? Surely, the political parties there will involve racial sentiments in every election. Their right-wing PAS is not a weak nor a minor party.

5. You have to stay 60 days in Malaysia before age 50.
Not sure how they count it, Does morning go in Malaysia and out at night count?
How can you stay in Malaysia 60 days unless you are out of job.



I don't think this nor the RTS will improve the property prices, most property owners in JB are losing money, and it will be good that they could even break even.

If i decide to retire in Malaysia, i will probably just rent a unit. I won't want to lock my liquidity in a Malaysian property, i don't think it's easy to sell it off. I don't see a purpose. For stability in rental price? For capital appreciation? There are plenty of new properties in Malaysia and Malaysia has a vast amount of land, so unlikely it will propel much.
 

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Too many caveats and unstable factors in this MM2H.

This MM2H is not new and has been around since 2002. So many times were Sinkies wishful but reality often seemed far from what they imagined.


If we refer to the original MM2H, some concerns are likely transferred to this new version.

1. The 5 year option to renew, doesn't mean surely renewed. Imagine 1 million people from China send in an application, their Bumi-instinct won't react?

2. During renewal, there's no guarantee of no changes in requirements. This could ask for fresh funds, they could restrict age, etc.

3. In the original MM2H, medical report is required. This suggests to me that medically sick PR could be rejected. So this dashes the dream of retirement in Malaysia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_My_Second_Home

4. The govt in Malaysia, is unstable. The tourist minister is a Chinese, what if PAS or a Muslim takes over the next time? Surely, the political parties there will involve racial sentiments in every election. Their right-wing PAS is not a weak nor a minor party.

5. You have to stay 60 days in Malaysia before age 50.
Not sure how they count it, Does morning go in Malaysia and out at night count?
How can you stay in Malaysia 60 days unless you are out of job.



I don't think this nor the RTS will improve the property prices, most property owners in JB are losing money, and it will be good that they could even break even.

If i decide to retire in Malaysia, i will probably just rent a unit. I won't want to lock my liquidity in a Malaysian property, i don't think it's easy to sell it off. I don't see a purpose. For stability in rental price? For capital appreciation? There are plenty of new properties in Malaysia and Malaysia has a vast amount of land, so unlikely it will propel much.

Very GOOD detailed thought and analysis!

Esp on the last part of property appreciation. It has many uncertain factors that will come into the picture along the way.
The biggest worry or concern is what IF anwak garhment will be not around or lose the next ge?
 

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Hi moonraiser, so u love few days in SG, and the other days in JB? Thought u have a FT job here in SG?
Yep. Job mostly Wfh. So I can do that no problem. And yes I spend my times between living in Malaysia and Singapore
 

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Quite true that the Malays in Msia may not support this new MM2H scheme as likely there will be an influx of Chinese applying for it from China , Spore and other foreigners. Risk of policy change few years down the road is real. And they also say it is for 1 year trial.
 

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Quite true that the Malays in Msia may not support this new MM2H scheme as likely there will be an influx of Chinese applying for it from China , Spore and other foreigners. Risk of policy change few years down the road is real. And they also say it is for 1 year trial.
wher to apply?
 

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Quite true that the Malays in Msia may not support this new MM2H scheme as likely there will be an influx of Chinese applying for it from China , Spore and other foreigners. Risk of policy change few years down the road is real. And they also say it is for 1 year trial.
I go over as day tourist also can feel hostility from the locals. Only the Chinese business owners like us, the bumis all would rather we don’t come. This is unlike TH where all the locals are very friendly and welcoming.
 

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Hi moonraiser, so u love few days in SG, and the other days in JB? Thought u have a FT job here in SG?


Maybe their case they enter n leave, the hours are short and the reason of pump petrol would be valid. If say i wanna make a daily run (lesve Msia to come back SG work, then night go back) , MAYBE the Msia customs will tekan ...


Ur SIL is msian? For urself, do u daily in and out of JB?

Shes a Sporean. Most of the week i would be at JB.
 

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I go over as day tourist also can feel hostility from the locals. Only the Chinese business owners like us, the bumis all would rather we don’t come. This is unlike TH where all the locals are very friendly and welcoming.
Hmm, not all though. Met some friendly and helpful Malays too. Like when I drove in myself without GPS and had to ask for directions and when I ran out of coins for vending machine, a Malay lady gave me her coins.
 

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Very GOOD detailed thought and analysis!

Esp on the last part of property appreciation. It has many uncertain factors that will come into the picture along the way.
The biggest worry or concern is what IF anwak garhment will be not around or lose the next ge?

Quite true that the Malays in Msia may not support this new MM2H scheme as likely there will be an influx of Chinese applying for it from China , Spore and other foreigners. Risk of policy change few years down the road is real. And they also say it is for 1 year trial.

the only way malaysia property value will appreciate is by mass import of people.

no natives of a sound country (unlike Singapore) will allow mass immigration
 

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I go over as day tourist also can feel hostility from the locals. Only the Chinese business owners like us, the bumis all would rather we don’t come. This is unlike TH where all the locals are very friendly and welcoming.


I go alor star I feel like the same leh. See my sinkie passport the custom officer still chat with me.
 

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I go alor star I feel like the same leh. See my sinkie passport the custom officer still chat with me.
The JB customs officer always gave me cold welcome. I say terima kasik they also bo hiew. I suppose we increase their work so of course. Only the grab driver still abit friendlier but then their ratings depend on it.
 

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The JB customs officer always gave me cold welcome. I say terima kasik they also bo hiew. I suppose we increase their work so of course. Only the grab driver still abit friendlier but then their ratings depend on it.
how to use grab in jb? which app dl
 
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