PE Board (professional engineer)

[KirinFrost]

Just take notice that you needs to study on campus there (also must meet the duration of course requirement) if you want to become PE in Sg cause PEB do not recognized distance learning degree from PSB, MDIS & etc even if their partner universities & courses are inside PEB list.

Yea i know thanks. Remember seeing a thread abt this on hwz as well

I intend to go canada for 4 yrs in elec engine coutse

 

[Kyoji83]

Hi Kyoji83, me and my friends following this thread are ignorant of all these Professional Engineer or related PEB matters. Is the title PE or PE Licence important in the real world or society.

It is the same as is Driving licence important in the real world or society? Everyone can do the job but the licence act as a Quality Assurance that s/he is a Qualified Person because s/he meet the standard requirement.

Having licence have more accountability for his/her action. A pedestrian (without driving licence & deems don't understand the law) illegal dash across the road even if there is an incoming car has less liability compare to a Driver (with licence & deems understand the law) travel in a very slow speed but still hit the pedestrian.


As for whether is there a needs for Engineering graduate to be PE depend your career objective. For example, you got a MBBS. Do you use it to register with SMC to become a Medical Doctor or just treat it as an academic certificate to find relevant jobs like Patient Care Assistant & Research Assistant or non-relevant jobs like Administrator & etc?

Or is it like those titles like PBM, BBM or Tunku / Tan Sri, etc which are useful for free NDP tickets, etc.

That one is a national award. For example, SAF Good Service Medal (5 years services award).


Totally not related to licence like PE or qualification like PhD.

Is a First Class Honour Degree or Masters, etc degraded without a PE status. Not even sure of the relationships here or the impact to one's career etc.

Don't understand what you are trying to express.

Please help with your wise (usual) perspectives. Terima Kaseh !!

BTW we are computing nerds.

Amituofo

 

[Kyoji83]

1) Architecture is under Board of Architects Singapore & not PEB.

2) Other engineering like transport do not required any licence & Engineer with or without CEng can do the job. Like I say, CEng is just for atas status without any real use.

3) Just to add on for PE (Elect). Even if you pass your PEB exam, you are still cannot practice until you get your 'Electrical Engineer' status from EMA.

From what i read n know, usually people go for PEB accredition if ur engineering branch is covered.

Eg. Electrical Mech Civil Archi should be peb. CEng maybe is more for branch likr transport engineering? Some of my boss here have PEng & CEng and also are member of IES.

Also, im in the electrical engineering field, most engineering designs need a PE to approve, for architecture n mech drawings i also see PE approve. i never see before CEng approve drawings, i may be wrong. Im not PE but thinking of working towards it.

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[KirinFrost]

It is the same as is Driving licence important in the real world or society? Everyone can do the job but the licence act as a Quality Assurance that s/he is a Qualified Person because s/he meet the standard requirement.

Having licence have more accountability for his/her action. A pedestrian (without driving licence & deems don't understand the law) illegal dash across the road even if there is an incoming car has less liability compare to a Driver (with licence & deems understand the law) travel in a very slow speed but still hit the pedestrian.


As for whether is there a needs for Engineering graduate to be PE depend your career objective. For example, you got a MBBS. Do you use it to register with SMC to become a Medical Doctor or just treat it as an academic certificate to find relevant jobs like Patient Care Assistant & Research Assistant or non-relevant jobs like Administrator & etc?





That one is a national award. For example, SAF Good Service Medal (5 years services award).


Totally not related to licence like PE or qualification like PhD.





Don't understand what you are trying to express.

i think he meant if he tries to find an engineering job with fch from say nus, does it mean that so long as he does not get a pe status, he will forever be playing second fiddle to someone else

 

[mypillowtalks]

1) Architecture is under Board of Architects Singapore & not PEB.

2) Other engineering like transport do not required any licence & Engineer with or without CEng can do the job. Like I say, CEng is just for atas status without any real use.

3) Just to add on for PE (Elect). Even if you pass your PEB exam, you are still cannot practice until you get your 'Electrical Engineer' status from EMA.

(1) ok, i kept thinking archi is under peb as the peb board members have a registered architect.

(2) i think is not needed too. But Im in transport, and they are pushing us to get CEng, not sure why but maybe look nice?

I didn't ask why they want us to get CEng as my current scope of work eventually "requires" LEW9 as a minimum requirement, so PE is a must. CEng not so useful for me.

(3) yes 2 exams n 1 interview. After that go for LEW 9 interview n test. A LEW9 of at least 22kv grade will be good for practicing engineers, like for 22kv turn on n other designs.
Looks like a long journey. Maybe need commit for 10+ years

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[Kyoji83]

JIAYOU!

(1) ok, i kept thinking archi is under peb as the peb board members have a registered architect.

(2) i think is not needed too. But Im in transport, and they are pushing us to get CEng, not sure why but maybe look nice?

I didn't ask why they want us to get CEng as my current scope of work eventually "requires" LEW9 as a minimum requirement, so PE is a must. CEng not so useful for me.

(3) yes 2 exams n 1 interview. After that go for LEW 9 interview n test. A LEW9 of at least 22kv grade will be good for practicing engineers, like for 22kv turn on n other designs.
Looks like a long journey. Maybe need commit for 10+ years

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[Kyoji83]

BCA got requirement that if engineering degree is not recognized by PEB (but don't needs the Engineer to be PE), then cannot be Grade P That why a lot of companies (especially construction industry) only hire NUS/NTU graduates or Foreigners. Apart from that will be public sector.

This mean 3rd class Hons to just pass with degree from NUS/NTU win FCH from private school in term of job opportunity in Sg. So first priority is to ensure your engineering degree is recognized by PEB. As for becoming a PE is just to earn additional income as a Freelance Consultant & etc.

Most fresh graduates face the main (first) problem of not able to work in a company that have PE as your mentor (as per PEB requirement). So your working experience are wasted & most will give up their PE dream.

The second problem will be (even if you have PE mentor & work experience) you have forgotten what you learn in university to prepare yourself for PEB exam.

i think he meant if he tries to find an engineering job with fch from say nus, does it mean that so long as he does not get a pe status, he will forever be playing second fiddle to someone else

 

[Plow98]

BCA got requirement that if engineering degree is not recognized by PEB (but don't needs the Engineer to be PE), then cannot be Grade P That why a lot of companies (especially construction industry) only hire NUS/NTU graduates or Foreigners. Apart from that will be public sector.

This mean 3rd class Hons to just pass with degree from NUS/NTU win FCH from private school in term of job opportunity in Sg. So first priority is to ensure your engineering degree is recognized by PEB. As for becoming a PE is just to earn additional income as a Freelance Consultant & etc.

Most fresh graduates face the main (first) problem of not able to work in a company that have PE as your mentor (as per PEB requirement). So your working experience are wasted & most will give up their PE dream.

The second problem will be (even if you have PE mentor & work experience) you have forgotten what you learn in university to prepare yourself for PEB exam.

Thanks for taking time to address our concerns on PEB.

If this PE licence is so critical, then may we assume that most senior engineers in industries are PEs? Example: Is the CEO of Cyber Security Agency of Singapore, Mr. David Koh a licensed PE?

Are degrees awarded by NUS / NTU School of Computing recognised by PEB ?

Amituofo

 

[KirinFrost]

Thanks for taking time to address our concerns on PEB.

If this PE licence is so critical, then may we assume that most senior engineers in industries are PEs? Example: Is the CEO of Cyber Security Agency of Singapore, Mr. David Koh a licensed PE?

Are degrees awarded by NUS / NTU School of Computing recognised by PEB ?

Amituofo

school of computing maybe not under them so i doubt it lol

 

[Kyoji83]

PEB only cover Mech, Elect & Civil (MEC) (while Chem is still on the way as new trade).

The rest like Cyber Security not PEB business.

As for MEC, senior engineers in industries may not be PE due to 1st & 2nd problem as per #48.

Thanks for taking time to address our concerns on PEB.

If this PE licence is so critical, then may we assume that most senior engineers in industries are PEs? Example: Is the CEO of Cyber Security Agency of Singapore, Mr. David Koh a licensed PE?

Are degrees awarded by NUS / NTU School of Computing recognised by PEB ?

Amituofo

 

[KirinFrost]

anyone knows whether you can still be PE if you go overseas uni which is accredited by peb but you get credit exemptions?

so instead of 4 years bachelor become 3 year instead for example

 

[KirinFrost]

PEB only cover Mech, Elect & Civil (MEC) (while Chem is still on the way as new trade).

The rest like Cyber Security not PEB business.

As for MEC, senior engineers in industries may not be PE due to 1st & 2nd problem as per #48.

actually chem has been recognised since 1 jan 2017

their recognised institutions list has been updated accordingly as well. year stated is still 2009 though, no change for that

 

[cherryblossoms]

anyone knows whether you can still be PE if you go overseas uni which is accredited by peb but you get credit exemptions?

so instead of 4 years bachelor become 3 year instead for example

if your oversea uni is in oversea , then is ok.
if your oversea uni is in sg, then is NOT ok (sit-tum/newcaatle, psb (coventry/Newcastle) , mdis(northumbria) , kaplan, etc etc. In short, in sg only ntu and nus)

im going to UNSW (aus) EE and got 2year exemption (poly diploma) . so i will only be there for 2years and will be approved. *make sure credit exemption is only 50% MAX. like mine".

did alot of checks with PEB before i made the decision.


PE is not everything in engineering. so.... ya. just good to have but not everything

 

[KirinFrost]

if your oversea uni is in oversea , then is ok.
if your oversea uni is in sg, then is NOT ok (sit-tum/newcaatle, psb (coventry/Newcastle) , mdis(northumbria) , kaplan, etc etc. In short, in sg only ntu and nus)

im going to UNSW (aus) EE and got 2year exemption (poly diploma) . so i will only be there for 2years and will be approved. *make sure credit exemption is only 50% MAX. like mine".

did alot of checks with PEB before i made the decision.


PE is not everything in engineering. so.... ya. just good to have but not everything

ah ok thanks

i intend to study on campus at the university of new brunswick in canada. Cheapest uni which i can find already

hopefully can jump from aerospace in poly to civil engineering there

wow your grades must be excellent to get 2 year exemptions?

 

[Kyoji83]

Not in Chem trade & it is too new for me. I cannot visualize what a PE (Chem) do & what documents required their PE stamp & signature.

actually chem has been recognised since 1 jan 2017

their recognised institutions list has been updated accordingly as well. year stated is still 2009 though, no change for that

 

[Kyoji83]

Mostly the programme should be not less than 3 or 4 years depend on your qualification that is specified in which Schedule.

anyone knows whether you can still be PE if you go overseas uni which is accredited by peb but you get credit exemptions?

so instead of 4 years bachelor become 3 year instead for example

 

[cherryblossoms]

ah ok thanks





i intend to study on campus at the university of new brunswick in canada. Cheapest uni which i can find already





hopefully can jump from aerospace in poly to civil engineering there



wow your grades must be excellent to get 2 year exemptions?

no la because ngee ann poly and unsw have some sort of "collaboration" thats why.

u can try apply civil engineering straight and see if u can get in.. if can then thats great. not sure if hopping courses is allowed. best is u head down to peb and clarify first. try to get the upper staff to ans your questions. IME, those at the counter one dont really know much.

 

[KirinFrost]

no la because ngee ann poly and unsw have some sort of "collaboration" thats why.

u can try apply civil engineering straight and see if u can get in.. if can then thats great. not sure if hopping courses is allowed. best is u head down to peb and clarify first. try to get the upper staff to ans your questions. IME, those at the counter one dont really know much.

err i meant i was wondering whether UNB will allow me to hop from aerospace to civil eng with gpa of slightly over 3...

as for peb im pretty sure its allowed since they only specified bachelor's degree. nothing seems to have been said about polytechnic diploma

 

[patryn33]

i intend to study on campus at the university of new brunswick in canada. Cheapest uni which i can find already

technically it is not the cheapest

UNB is ~CND$19K. engineering students need to pay ~$1.3K more.
https://www.unb.ca/financialservice...undergrad/fredericton_undergrad_full_time.pdf

MUN is CD$11.4k
https://www.mun.ca/undergrad/money/

err i meant i was wondering whether UNB will allow me to hop from aerospace to civil eng with gpa of slightly over 3...

just apply. with CEC gone no one help u
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[KirinFrost]

technically it is not the cheapest

UNB is ~CND$19K. engineering students need to pay ~$1.3K more.
https://www.unb.ca/financialservice...undergrad/fredericton_undergrad_full_time.pdf

MUN is CD$11.4k
https://www.mun.ca/undergrad/money/



just apply. with CEC gone no one help u
https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/62brg6/poly_diploma_to_canada_uni/


http://studyincanadafair.com/educanada-fair-in-singapore/

Yea i found mun but since its compulsory 5 yrs for engine its more expensive so no go for me