Poly Laptop Roadshow

[Ark Law]

come on man don't just make a meme. justify it.

Misery during 3 years of actual poly work. "Onsite warranty" is just a dispatch layer adding 2 working days to total solution time. Enjoy your Lenovo experience.

 

[Jedixx]

isit entitled to year 1 student...? Can 2nd ..3rd years student buy it?

Should be able to buy also, but will be put in queue as first year given priority

 

[Jedixx]

Misery during 3 years of actual poly work. "Onsite warranty" is just a dispatch layer adding 2 working days to total solution time. Enjoy your Lenovo experience.

Wow how many time u send in for repair?

 

[Ark Law]

Wow how many time u send in for repair?

As per picture - 7

 

[1c3_5n0w]

Misery during 3 years of actual poly work. "Onsite warranty" is just a dispatch layer adding 2 working days to total solution time. Enjoy your Lenovo experience.

HAHA that's pretty unlucky. Thanks for the heads up, I'm still going ahead with the purchase though. I won't say you didn't warn me HAHA

 

[ZrE0_Cha0s]

Misery during 3 years of actual poly work. "Onsite warranty" is just a dispatch layer adding 2 working days to total solution time. Enjoy your Lenovo experience.

lol which lappy u bought?

 

[Ark Law]

lol which lappy u bought?

Y460P. Bought it because it had the best gaming spec during my roadshow. Learned the hard way, there's a lot more to a laptop than just specs and weight. Though the i7 2630QM in it would still be faster than the 7300U in my new Latitude

Gaming on desktop, solely work on laptop. Will continue to arm chio at students carrying their 2.5kg gaming laptop (and power brick) to school

 

[Encrypted11]

Student time first laptop:

Try to squeeze out performance per dollar.
But after the first laptop, should have a clear idea of laptop for max portability unplugged vs. desktop for performance than something in the middle of the road that isn't the most ideal for either use case.

Macs, starbucks, newer libraries you name it, tend to not have public accessible power sockets to prevent laptop users from camping and makes a battery life machine more practical.

 

[tortoise55]

Misery during 3 years of actual poly work. "Onsite warranty" is just a dispatch layer adding 2 working days to total solution time. Enjoy your Lenovo experience.

Spoiler

y460p?

Think you got a super lemon, I got the same laptop, only died last year Dec, due to graphic card problem. And I think I will continue to use it if I can replace the graphic card. I went and whacked in a SSD + HDD combo, and soup it to 8GB to prolong its life

 

[Ark Law]

Student time first laptop:

Try to squeeze out performance per dollar.
But after the first laptop, should have a clear idea of laptop for max portability unplugged vs. desktop for performance than something in the middle of the road that isn't the most ideal for either use case.

True story. Going back to school again, I value aftersales support on top of battery life and weight

y460p?

Think you got a super lemon, I got the same laptop, only died last year Dec, due to graphic card problem. And I think I will continue to use it if I can replace the graphic card. I went and whacked in a SSD + HDD combo, and soup it to 8GB to prolong its life

Yeah, very sian when I see other Y460P running problem free in my poly. But the experience made me blacklist Lenovo after the experience (and now Thinkpads since Lenovo decided to merge it with Ideapad service divsion).

Apart from its inherent problems, 8GB ram + SSD upgrade made it a real workhorse. Mine also died due to GPU. Sold the CPU before disposing that plastic crap

 

[Irenicus]

There is another new option for those who want portability, less weight, good aftersales support and with an external GPU for notebook which is the Aftershock P-14. It comes with a 14 inch display, i7 CPU, GTX1050, etc...

Take note battery life remains to be seen as it is a very new product. Price starts at $1455 without OS.

Link: https://www.aftershockpc.com/welcome/Productinner/p14

 

[tortoise55]

True story. Going back to school again, I value aftersales support on top of battery life and weight




Yeah, very sian when I see other Y460P running problem free in my poly. But the experience made me blacklist Lenovo after the experience (and now Thinkpads since Lenovo decided to merge it with Ideapad service divsion).

Apart from its inherent problems, 8GB ram + SSD upgrade made it a real workhorse. Mine also died due to GPU. Sold the CPU before disposing that plastic crap

ThinkPad should be okie, my T410 is still running happily. IBM technology is still one of the best, the reputation is there, and Lenovo would not let it go bad.

I quite like Lenovo for the fact that it's more easily to open up and change its parts as compare to other mainstream brands. I got a HP pavilion 15 recently, and kinda regret getting it over Y520.

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[ZrE0_Cha0s]

ThinkPad should be okie, my T410 is still running happily. IBM technology is still one of the best, the reputation is there, and Lenovo would not let it go bad.

I quite like Lenovo for the fact that it's more easily to open up and change its parts as compare to other mainstream brands. I got a HP pavilion 15 recently, and kinda regret getting it over Y520.

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why? like whats the differences on the y520 u saw vs the hp pavilion 15 they give?

next i have a slightly other verison of your T410 (mine is T400) still doing good, but not batt. overall still decent for basic use but not gaming though.

 

[Bilal N]

Both can i think? Can't recall

What is the payment mode like? Visa or net?

 

[Ark Law]

ThinkPad should be okie, my T410 is still running happily. IBM technology is still one of the best, the reputation is there, and Lenovo would not let it go bad.

I quite like Lenovo for the fact that it's more easily to open up and change its parts as compare to other mainstream brands. I got a HP pavilion 15 recently, and kinda regret getting it over Y520.

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Lenovo might have kept some IBM DNA in their product, but I doubt they kept the service standard in SG after merging consumer and commercial service divisions. I'd like to be proven wrong though. The ergonomics of their Trackpoint is just superior than any other make.

Having just mulled over and bought my first business tier laptop, I don't know if I can ever look at consumer laptop the same way. Build quality just feels much more robust and I can see why it is a 3-yr warranty as standard versus 1-yr.

 

[BirdbrainZ]

I have been asked to advise my niece who is entering a nursing course in Nanyang Polytechnic - on which notebook to get for her studies. I think her uses are mostly word processing with MS office and probably some power point presentation for her projects.

Based off the online catalogue for the 2017 roadshow, and it would appear she has her heart set on the Asus UX330 series. However, based on the specs mentioned below, I do not think it is a good choice.

Asus UX330 (Poly roadshow)
7th Gen i7-7500U (dual core)
Win10 Home
13.3" QHD (3200x1800p) screen
8GB ram
256GB SSD
Intel HD graphics 620
1.2KG
$1,498

Whereas, the specs mentioned from outside retailers have the following.

Asus UX330 (Outside retailers)
7th Gen i5-7200U (dual core)
Win10 Home
13.3" FHD (1920x1080p) screen
8GB ram
512GB SSD
Intel HD graphics 620
1.2KG
$1,3XX

I figured that a dual core i7-7500U, QHD screen, and a 256GB SSD isn't a good choice, for reasons that she will likely not be needing an i7-7500U dual core, and when coupled with a 13.3" QHD screen will likely drain the battery at faster rate than say an i5 variant with a FHD screen instead. Plus, it would seem that retailers outside of the roadshow (such as Harvey Norman, Best Denki, etc) offers the i5 variant, 13.3" FHD, and a 512GB SSD might be a better choice. However, the pricing offered so far is similar to the $1,398 range offered at the Poly Roadshow.

Deep down, I am fairly certain getting an i5, FHD, 512GB SSD from outside retailers would serve her better with better battery efficiency + onboard HDD storage, but the thought of passing up a model with higher specs seems highly counterintuitive.

I am asking fellow members here for a second opinion.

 

[1c3_5n0w]

why? like whats the differences on the y520 u saw vs the hp pavilion 15 they give?

next i have a slightly other verison of your T410 (mine is T400) still doing good, but not batt. overall still decent for basic use but not gaming though.

for poly students the difference is that the y520 has a 128gb SSD + 500gb HDD while the pavilion 15 has a 256GB. the pavilion 15 has 12gb of 2133mhz DDR4 ram while the Lenovo y520 has 8gb of 2400mhz RAM. the HP has a bigger battery with a 4 cell 63.3whr pack while the Lenovo has a 3 cell 45whr. also, the HP pavilion is 200grams lighter.

The HP pavilion 15 costs 1249 while the Lenovo Y520 costs 1399.

 

[Encrypted11]

ThinkPad should be okie, my T410 is still running happily. IBM technology is still one of the best, the reputation is there, and Lenovo would not let it go bad.

I quite like Lenovo for the fact that it's more easily to open up and change its parts as compare to other mainstream brands. I got a HP pavilion 15 recently, and kinda regret getting it over Y520.

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If you're finding a sequel to a "real thinkpad", you may not find it anymore. In 2012, the Lenovo chief already said they'd like to woo Apple/Mac customers especially with their thinkpads.
(But why would an MacOS user bother with an unclassy laptop running windows? The logic?)

This is evident in their attempts over the years in cutting the thinkpad DNA from the last real thinkpads (20 and 30 series).

The most notable compromises are:
-Chassis lost its highly ergonomic contours, traded with flatter designs
-Since 40/50 series, T/X models are no longer using IBM hinges
-Reduced rollcage reinforcement
-7 row chiclet
(It's not bad, but some key layout can be improved.. There's a reason why classic thinkpad users find that keyboard is equivalent to a desktop one).

Improvements are:
-Thinner and lighter
-Hardware refresh (Battery life, its not a Lenovo intrinsic improvement)

Chances are new thinkpad users won't know what the new designs lost since it will still be an upgrade from an ideapad. It's the users of older thinkpads that will reminisce over the compromises in build quality, ergonomics, robust support and power tool software versus the classic models.

Lenovo is expanding the thinkpad brand. But in the process, they're using more ideapad and Mac design cues to woo new customers. But they're achieving this by modifying the no-nonsense worktool models for the worse and in some cases, cutting on build.

You can find lots of commentaries on a professional laptop repair (Louis Rossmann Group) how Lenovo turned an "IBM Thinkpad", to a "Lenovo Thinkpad".

It's not the end of a good thinkpad yet. But it is heading towards that direction constantly.

So if the question posted is whether Lenovo is destroying the Thinkpad? IMO, yes. If IBM didn't exit the PC market due to the commoditisation, they'll be no doubt better than what Lenovo are building.

 

[1c3_5n0w]

I have been asked to advise my niece who is entering a nursing course in Nanyang Polytechnic - on which notebook to get for her studies. I think her uses are mostly word processing with MS office and probably some power point presentation for her projects.

Based off the online catalogue for the 2017 roadshow, and it would appear she has her heart set on the Asus UX330 series. However, based on the specs mentioned below, I do not think it is a good choice.

Asus UX330 (Poly roadshow)
7th Gen i7-7500U (dual core)
Win10 Home
13.3" QHD (3200x1800p) screen
8GB ram
256GB SSD
Intel HD graphics 620
1.2KG
$1,398

Whereas, the specs mentioned from outside retailers have the following.

Asus UX330 (Outside retailers)
7th Gen i5-7200U (dual core)
Win10 Home
13.3" FHD (1920x1080p) screen
8GB ram
512GB SSD
Intel HD graphics 620
1.2KG
$1,3XX

I figured that a dual core i7-7500U, QHD screen, and a 256GB SSD isn't a good choice, for reasons that she will likely not be needing an i7-7500U dual core, and when coupled with a 13.3" QHD screen will likely drain the battery at faster rate than say an i5 variant with a FHD screen instead. Plus, it would seem that retailers outside of the roadshow (such as Harvey Norman, Best Denki, etc) offers the i5 variant, 13.3" FHD, and a 512GB SSD might be a better choice. However, the pricing offered so far is similar to the $1,398 range offered at the Poly Roadshow.

Deep down, I am fairly certain getting an i5, FHD, 512GB SSD from outside retailers would serve her better with better battery efficiency + onboard HDD storage, but the thought of passing up a model with higher specs seems highly counterintuitive.

I am asking fellow members here for a second opinion.

hey I strongly advise purchasing the one from the poly due to the 3 year warranty and consumer protection. if many people have a problem with a laptop the poly can file a mass complaint against the company. also about space, buying from the polytechnic roadshow, you will receive a free 1TB HDD so I guess it's not much of a problem, besides, how much of a hassle can a hard drive be if you are already lugging your laptop around?

 

[Irenicus]

Every laptop brand has their horror stories e.g. Dell XPS 15 with their coil whine, Asus with their hinges breaking, etc... So I don't think it is fair to Lenovo or other manufacturers to keep bashing them in every thread that mentions their brand.

By the way, I don't work for any computer brands, so this is just my opinion.