Proposal Ring - Part 2

[larcano]

Haha siyu like very worked up hor? Chillax! no pt replying cos david will keep replying, n it just goes on n on...Let's just let this thread return to its main topics instead of dwelling on a shop which we seriously have no interest to know more abt.

 

[Siyu]

i sound worked up? ok. i apologize to all. my bad. i met a rude staff at hush puppies @ MBS. du lan

 

[jhchoo85]

Looks like a pentagon and square princess diamond? Nice if it is a pentagon Hearts and Arrows super ideal..
I'll totally get that for my own band

Bro.. pentagon is 5 sides.. this is an octagon.. 8 sides!
It will be very cool if its Hearts and Arrows octagon.. I'm not much into Hearts and arrows princess cut..

 

[larcano]

Bro.. pentagon is 5 sides.. this is an octagon.. 8 sides!
It will be very cool if its Hearts and Arrows octagon.. I'm not much into Hearts and arrows princess cut..

It's likely [GorgeouS] is not a bro, just my guess

 

[Siyu]

My advice is don't go for special cuts. Just stay for H&A round brilliant. (more resale value - not that we going to sell it, but yes CLASSIC, because what if the new cuts eventually dies off and fades out)

I will be going to one of the outlets in may

Gele'e Diamond | Facebook

The owner speaks very good English. Been there once. =)

 

[DawnMin]

My advice is don't go for special cuts. Just stay for H&A round brilliant. (more resale value - not that we going to sell it, but yes CLASSIC, because what if the new cuts eventually dies off and fades out)

I will be going to one of the outlets in may

Gele'e Diamond | Facebook

The owner speaks very good English. Been there once. =)

That's not very true,
with the industry moving towards education on cut quality such as focus on brilliance and light return; for example AGS light reports was never this popular before, it's the poor cuts that will be phased out. new cuts focused on cut performance is always in demand and only begin to rise you can see it on pricescope

now- resale value: if you have ever tried selling your diamond you would realize it's much lower than your purchase value especially in a pawn shop.
Pawn shops also don't evaluate your diamond much besides your basic 4 C's and offer you as little as only a few hundred.

Another example is Colored diamonds, rare and expensive. 2 intense vivid yellow diamonds graded on GIA can have entirely different values. One can appear much less yellow than the other and cost thousands less despite being same on paper. Bring both to a pawn shop, and they will again, offer you a few hundred.

My advise is, go for what you think looks good, and what he/she would like

 

[jhchoo85]

Speaking of Hearts and Arrows, i find this video very accurate from my experience while shopping for my diamond..

Actually, a lot of stores claim theirs to be perfect Hearts and Arrows.. In fact..they all look much worse than the bad H&A in the video lol
From what i saw, Jannpaul and Whiteflash are the 2 that deals with true H&A, including some which are pretty alright from Goodoldgold. I agree with Dawnmin that pawn shops only offers a few hundred bucks for most of the diamonds as they only look at the 4Cs.
Personally, i feel that certain cuts like Solasfera and Cushion Brellia outperforms the best H&A visually.. and theoretically
On an additional note, they are internationally branded and recognized diamond cuts.

 

[Kenny23]

Engagement ring shop. - now u know what i mean by Bad press. u don't reply liao. better that way. else netizens will spread bad name about your shop. Since your wife know the sister, why not ask her meditate the whole issue. Now ppl are so angry with you lor.

huh i think u r confused...i dont belong to that lousy store..i m just an on looker..hee

 

[DawnMin]

he wasn't directing that to you

 

[Kenny23]

Just get something u really like..do pple really bother about resale value? Its not like an investment like some rare painting no? Unless u wanna trade in but if tats the case isnt diamonds like destiny better since e trade in value is retained? But certain good diamonds are & can be used for hierlooms so u wouldnt wanna sell it..

the colored diamonds & the unique cuts look really pretty...i am looking for something brillant & sizable too..any recommendations? I dont think 40-50k can get a really brillant 2c round diamond rite..

 

[KoChi]

hmmm.. is G a bad color?

 

[larcano]

hmmm.. is G a bad color?

Personally I think it's fine.

 

[Kenny23]

hmmm.. is G a bad color?

The yellowish is certainly visible..its up to you though

 

[jazzy85]

wedding tweets: "who pays for wad" money guide

Wedding Tweets > under "Budget Tips"

inside this guide got tell us "who pays for wad" i think quite useful as a reference....

 

[biowolf]

Jp's Cushion Brellia

Hi fellow peeps, was following on this thread for a few days cos i am planning to propose to my girl in a few months time. Notice all the raves about JannPaul and have decided to get the Cushion Brellia.

May I Check with you guys rougly how much will it cost if i were to get a Cushion Brellia that is between 0.3 -0.4 Carat, Color F, Clarity VS1 ?

 

[StephenTan_1]

That's not very true,
with the industry moving towards education on cut quality such as focus on brilliance and light return; for example AGS light reports was never this popular before, it's the poor cuts that will be phased out. new cuts focused on cut performance is always in demand and only begin to rise you can see it on pricescope

Agreed here...

now- resale value: if you have ever tried selling your diamond you would realize it's much lower than your purchase value especially in a pawn shop.
Pawn shops also don't evaluate your diamond much besides your basic 4 C's and offer you as little as only a few hundred.

Well, honestly, the pawnshop is the last place one should ever go to... period. That being said, larger size well-cut diamonds do hold their value, or even appreciate over time. I did a presentation to OCBC Relationship Managers a few weeks ago at OCBC Centre, and I presented this price evolution graph (Source: Diamond Industry Report 2011 by Bain & Company).

Basically, what we see is that larger diamonds over 1-2 carats have appreciated substantially, and over the past 5 years outperformed the MSCI World Index. What this means is not that you can buy now, and sell tomorrow at a profit.

It means that, over time, it would be better to buy sooner rather than later, as polished diamond prices are under pressure to rise because of imbalance of supply and demand.

If I am not wrong, other than property in Singapore over the same period of time, no other asset class increased in value to such a degree and with so little volatility as diamonds.

Another example is Colored diamonds, rare and expensive. 2 intense vivid yellow diamonds graded on GIA can have entirely different values. One can appear much less yellow than the other and cost thousands less despite being same on paper. Bring both to a pawn shop, and they will again, offer you a few hundred.

Again, agreed. Pawnshops are the last place one should go to.

My advise is, go for what you think looks good, and what he/she would like

This would be the golden rule for choosing diamonds. If it does not look beautiful, no criteria on any certificate would convince you to buy the diamond.

Regards,
Stephen Tan

 

[Kenny23]

Agreed here...



Well, honestly, the pawnshop is the last place one should ever go to... period. That being said, larger size well-cut diamonds do hold their value, or even appreciate over time. I did a presentation to OCBC Relationship Managers a few weeks ago at OCBC Centre, and I presented this price evolution graph (Source: Diamond Industry Report 2011 by Bain & Company).

Basically, what we see is that larger diamonds over 1-2 carats have appreciated substantially, and over the past 5 years outperformed the MSCI World Index. What this means is not that you can buy now, and sell tomorrow at a profit.

It means that, over time, it would be better to buy sooner rather than later, as polished diamond prices are under pressure to rise because of imbalance of supply and demand.

If I am not wrong, other than property in Singapore over the same period of time, no other asset class increased in value to such a degree and with so little volatility as diamonds.

Again, agreed. Pawnshops are the last place one should go to.



This would be the golden rule for choosing diamonds. If it does not look beautiful, no criteria on any certificate would convince you to buy the diamond.

Regards,
Stephen Tan

Interesting presentation..the specs must be pretty good or rather rare for the 1-2 carats too for it to hold its value n appreciate?

 

[StephenTan_1]

Interesting presentation..the specs must be pretty good or rather rare for the 1-2 carats too for it to hold its value n appreciate?

Hi Kenny23,

The price evolution graph did not specify that it was only for specific diamond qualities. Although the degree of price increase by differ, but the trend should still hold true.

For larger sizes >3-5 carats, I believe this trend would hold true almost across the colour/clarity spectrum.

This trend is not going to go away anytime soon.

The chart above is from the same Diamond Industry Report 2011. Given that no new viable mine has been located over the past decade, and that it typically takes up to 13 years to start production in a mine, and that demand continues to grow, we do not foresee any serious downward pressure on prices.

Best regards,
Stephen Tan

 

[reddevil82]

i somehow managed to find out my girl's size from a ring shop... but when i go online to buy, the sizes are in US, Eur and all that...

ring sizes in shops, what is the equivalent size in online stores?

 

[StephenTan_1]

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Best regards,
Stephen Tan