Proposal Ring - Part 2

[zeally]

To bros that are considering to buy from Bluenile, under the diamond selector, limit to only "Signature Ideal". The diamonds with this cut has a GCAL report, which you can download the PDF and view the optical symmetry scope image, as well as inspect the H&A for the view on the bottom pavilion.

That's something i came across when i was searching for my diamond as well. Of cos it will also bump up the pricing due to it being Blue Nile Signature Ideal cut, but at least it ensures you get a well cut diamond without seeing it physically. Hope it helps.

Example:

Bluenile Diamond URL: Search for Diamonds by Shape, Size, Quality & Price | Blue Nile

Yes. The GCAL is an extra certificate for Blue Nile Signature. But it costs a premium too. Another thing is that the reports are B&W which I feel does showcases the images clearly, but it is nonetheless better than buying blind without extra information.

 

[zeally]

I don't mind buying from BlueNile (did some reading from this thread).

My only concern would be resizing of the ring. How does BlueNile deals with the resizing ? Do we have to send back to the states for them to do the resizing and how will the shipping charges be like ?

Anyone did resizing with BlueNile before ?

Agree that resizing is free as stated on their website. The only drawback is the shipping costs. It is about $100 per trip for shipping and insurance. the price of insurance varies with the price of diamond. additionally, I am not sure how the gst is going to work here. Most probably have to submit some documents to the customs that the item was returned so that you do not get charged for gst twice.

 

[zeally]

Hi all,

I am totally noob on all this. For around S$2k, am I able to get a decent size proposal ring ?

If so, can please recommend ? Thanks

Of course! JP quoted me 0.3+ carats for their super ideals for $2k with ring setting. However, I didn't bite! Haha! Nevertheless, their stones looks great!

I suggests that you visit more stores and make comparisons, do your homework and read this thread. many shop names surfaced in this threads and you should visit some of them to get a feel of the quality vs price. Then make the most informed decision to make the purchase.

 

[GamerZ]

Of course! JP quoted me 0.3+ carats for their super ideals for $2k with ring setting. However, I didn't bite! Haha! Nevertheless, their stones looks great!

I suggests that you visit more stores and make comparisons, do your homework and read this thread. many shop names surfaced in this threads and you should visit some of them to get a feel of the quality vs price. Then make the most informed decision to make the purchase.

Thank you for your advise. i went to Lee Hwa Diamond Atlier at Vivocity to look for the rings.

I found 1 which is priced at S$1850 (discounted from S$5k+, yes i was shocked why so much discount). It is 0.38 carat with VVS1. The i think it was E color. Is it worth (including the ring) ?

 

[fantasy88]

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[hollander]

Thank you for your advise. i went to Lee Hwa Diamond Atlier at Vivocity to look for the rings.

I found 1 which is priced at S$1850 (discounted from S$5k+, yes i was shocked why so much discount). It is 0.38 carat with VVS1. The i think it was E color. Is it worth (including the ring) ?

Color and Clarity wise it is nice, size is also not far for the prize, how about other details?

If you are happy with that it is a real bargain. Is it certed by a 3rd party or in house one?

 

[GamerZ]

Color and Clarity wise it is nice, size is also not far for the prize, how about other details?

If you are happy with that it is a real bargain. Is it certed by a 3rd party or in house one?

They say they have certificates. Not sure in-house or 3rd party though. Its from the "Solitare" collection. Not sure about other details though, quite new to this so didnt ask them much.

 

[hollander]

They say they have certificates. Not sure in-house or 3rd party though. Its from the "Solitare" collection. Not sure about other details though, quite new to this so didnt ask them much.

Better confirm with them, or yet drop by again and see the cert, at least you have an option

 

[letissier07]

Hi all,

New to all these. Good read here.

Got a quote for a round diamond hearts and arrows ideal cut with the following specs. Can anyone advise?

Depth % 61.5
Table % 55.2
Crown Angle 34.6
Star 54.0
Pavilion Angle 40.7
Crown % 15.5
Lower Girdle % 77.0

Culet Pointed
Fluorescence Negligible
Girdle Thin to Medium Faceted

Thanks in advance!

 

[aLpHa-Ev7]

Yes. The GCAL is an extra certificate for Blue Nile Signature. But it costs a premium too. Another thing is that the reports are B&W which I feel does showcases the images clearly, but it is nonetheless better than buying blind without extra information.

The "optical symmetry" is in color, similar to an ASET scope. You can download the PDF instead of viewing online. It is clearer.

Yes, it does cost more, but also because it is higher quality cut diamond, hence they are confident of providing the scope images. And also, these are in-house signature ideals, so it is like JP having Super Ideals as their premium cut diamonds at a higher price, compared to normal Idea cut diamond.

It does provide some valuable information for bros looking for a better cut diamond from Bluenile, esp when u can't see anything but a GIA cert. Just hope they will provide ASET scope for free, but that is just wishing.

 

[aLpHa-Ev7]

Hi all,

New to all these. Good read here.

Got a quote for a round diamond hearts and arrows ideal cut with the following specs. Can anyone advise?

Depth % 61.5
Table % 55.2
Crown Angle 34.6
Star 54.0
Pavilion Angle 40.7
Crown % 15.5
Lower Girdle % 77.0

Culet Pointed
Fluorescence Negligible
Girdle Thin to Medium Faceted

Thanks in advance!

This diamond has a HCA score of 1.0, which is a step in the right direction. It's a very good score.

Any scope images to share?

 

[hollander]

Hi all,

New to all these. Good read here.

Got a quote for a round diamond hearts and arrows ideal cut with the following specs. Can anyone advise?

Depth % 61.5
Table % 55.2
Crown Angle 34.6
Star 54.0
Pavilion Angle 40.7
Crown % 15.5
Lower Girdle % 77.0

Culet Pointed
Fluorescence Negligible
Girdle Thin to Medium Faceted

Thanks in advance!

Hi Bro,

As mentioned by aLpHa-Ev7, it is really a nice diamond. Do you have some scope images then can help us better see the diamond.

I am wondering if the star facets of 54 will have an enormous clustering effect though it is really within the acceptable H&A range.

What's the colour and clarity bro?

 

[Lurker_13]

Hi Bro,

As mentioned by aLpHa-Ev7, it is really a nice diamond. Do you have some scope images then can help us better see the diamond.

I am wondering if the star facets of 54 will have an enormous clustering effect though it is really within the acceptable H&A range.

What's the colour and clarity bro?

Agree wif both alpha n hollander. The diamond 'looks' gd wif the info provided. Any scope images to share?

 

[bedposthalo]

Yes. The GCAL is an extra certificate for Blue Nile Signature. But it costs a premium too. Another thing is that the reports are B&W which I feel does showcases the images clearly, but it is nonetheless better than buying blind without extra information.

The "optical symmetry" is in color, similar to an ASET scope. You can download the PDF instead of viewing online. It is clearer.

Yes, it does cost more, but also because it is higher quality cut diamond, hence they are confident of providing the scope images. And also, these are in-house signature ideals, so it is like JP having Super Ideals as their premium cut diamonds at a higher price, compared to normal Idea cut diamond.

It does provide some valuable information for bros looking for a better cut diamond from Bluenile, esp when u can't see anything but a GIA cert. Just hope they will provide ASET scope for free, but that is just wishing.

There are mix reviews of Bluenile.

Blue Nile Reviews @ Truth About Diamonds

The reason why Bluenile don't give photos is because they don't inspect the diamonds that they sell. In a way, they blindly sell whatever stocks that comes to them, without analyzing the diamond at all as their focus is mass selling. Because of this, they have zero quality control over their stuff, cos it never physically passes through their hands.

There have been reports of bluenile diamonds being hazy, milky or brown. Some diamonds can have these attribution due to their properties. Unfortunately, these attributions will not be shown on the certificate.
Usually jewelry shops won't carry these kinda diamonds cos the customer is there to see the diamond. So where these diamond goods ends up is usually places like Bluenile, where people can't see the diamond before buying. It can be a hit or miss kinda thing.

Bluenile Signature is not the same as Super Ideal!! Their Signature range is only based on the proportions... it's the same as just using the HCA calculator only. The GCAL report is actually BY Bluenile. It's just like an extra piece of paper that Bluenile make themselves.. There has been questions raised over the report and gemelogists in the US described the report as useless cos it doesn't show more info or say anything more about the cut.

GCAL grading?blue nile : RockyTalky • Diamond Jewelry Forum - Compare Diamond Prices, Discussions & Diamond Information

 

[Shione]

They say they have certificates. Not sure in-house or 3rd party though. Its from the "Solitare" collection. Not sure about other details though, quite new to this so didnt ask them much.

A 0.3+c diamond shouldnt even cost 5k in the first place. Unless maybe it has a special cut or something. I think it's likely a mark up in prices before the 'discount'.

Just for comparison 5k netted me a 0.56c solitaire, E, Vvs 2.
Likewise like one of the bros mentioned. A 0.3+c quoted to him was slightly below 2k. And that's a jp super ideal which imho, represents better quality. Lol my ring's frm jp too.

 

[Draculav]

One of the bros here bought from Bluenile before..

I bought a diamond from Bluenile, 0.45 carat D SI1. Cut is Excellent, Polish is Excellent, Symmetry is Excellent.

Before I bought it, the customer service from Bluenile told me that the diamond is eye clean. When the diamond arrived, there were small blackish dots near the middle of the diamond . At first I thought I can stand it.. but the more I look at it now, the more obvious and it is. Can't tolerate it anymore... What I can't handle is the diamond does not sparkle ever though it has Excellent Cut/Polish/Symmetry. We compared the diamond with other friends and find that the diamond loses out.. and theirs is not even a Excellent Cut!

Now I don't know what to do with the ring. Wanted to return it but it's past the return date policy.. Does anyone know where I can try selling it??

 

[Naga Siren]

guys,

wat are the chances of getting a 1 carat diamond with S$5k?

 

[hollander]

guys,

wat are the chances of getting a 1 carat diamond with S$5k?

There is but the quality will be not that good or if you can find a 2nd hand one.

If you are not that particular of it being a 2nd hand diamond because if you compare side by side you can never tell that it is 2nd hand.

If it is a certed one the quality will not be that good.

 

[hollander]

One of the bros here bought from Bluenile before..

Thats the problem of online shops that you cannot even see the diamond in person, though pictures are good it is still better to see it in person and even much better to see side by side with other diamonds.

 

[GamerZ]

For those wondering about the process of resizing from BlueNile, here is the official reply from them:

Thank you for emailing us regarding upcoming ring purchase.

While we are happy to resize your ring for you, it is best our for customers in Singapore to have the resizing done locally. If the ring is sent back to us, you will be required to pay tax/duty on the order again. We can provide you with paperwork to assist you in appealing the second tax/duty charges, but there is no guarantee that you will be able to receive a refund for this. Should you wish to have the ring resized in Singapore, we will be happy to offer a $50 credit to help cover those costs.

If you prefer to send the ring back to Blue Nile for sizing, it will take about 6 business days from when we receive the ring back to ship it to you, delivery would be 3-6 days after. In addition, you would need to cover the cost to ship it back to us, as well as for insurance on the shipment back to you.

Please let me know if you have any other questions and have a nice day.

Sincerely,

Amanda Johnson | Diamond & Jewelry Consultant
Blue Nile, Inc. | T 800.242.2728 | service@bluenile.com
Engagement Rings, Diamonds, Wedding Rings and Fine Jewellery at Blue Nile

With that being said, most likely i will be buying off the shelf from one of the local stores to save the hassle.