Proposal Ring - Part 2

[limited]

Hahaha. 3 months pay as guide is a very bad guide in my
Opinion. Rather work out your sums and see what you can afford. Cause once she says 'yes' it's one very expensive journey together!!

But if u're loaded. Hahaha. Then 3 months pay also not enuff. =p

 

[jxyang888]

Yep, can be seen. Since you spotted something which you don't like so easily, then I think the stone is already not mind clean. Hahaha. If you can't accept the arrows then I advise you to ask them to just recommend another stone.

Bro, I saw the diamond today and find that the arrows were symmetrical. The hearts looks good too. The diamond could have been tilted abit when the pictures were taken what U all think? Cheers

 

[EricMagnusLensherr]

If you've seen the real thing and are happy with it, of course go for it ! Hahahaha ! I personally like more fire so i'm biased towards your stone. lol !

 

[jxyang888]

If you've seen the real thing and are happy with it, of course go for it ! Hahahaha ! I personally like more fire so i'm biased towards your stone. lol !

Haha yay! Thanks bro!

 

[Jackjack42]

Hello bros, quick question!

Is there really any significant difference between Super Ideal Cut and Ideal Cut from JannPaul? So totally a noob here but I need to make a big commitment and wants to get the decision right. Appreciate any shadings!!

Looking forward to pose the scope images once I get them! Yeah!

 

[Gothika]

Hello bros, quick question!

Is there really any significant difference between Super Ideal Cut and Ideal Cut from JannPaul? So totally a noob here but I need to make a big commitment and wants to get the decision right. Appreciate any shadings!!

Looking forward to pose the scope images once I get them! Yeah!

When I compared them next to each other, can tell the diff alittle bit.. but if you see the diamond by itself, it's much harder. I guess it is how perfect you want your diamond to be. hahaha

I know I'm going to buy this ring one time only, so I just wanted it to be perfect. She deserves it anyway.. hahaah. Different places can have different benchmark of Ideal Cut too.. some may not be as Ideal as others.. JP's Super Ideal Cut is one of the strictest in the world.. and their Ideal is like the same standard as other places Super Ideal Cut. So I guess you can't go wrong with JP's Ideal Cut either.

 

[Gothika]

Hi bros, I asked this before but didn't get much reply.. what's the average size or budget you guys usually set? Want to knoe whats the market rate

Bro, it's like asking what car you should buy. If you have 200k saving, you can easily get a 1ct+. If you have 50k savings, then you should get 0.5-0.8ct. You need to plan within your means too.

 

[EricMagnusLensherr]

When I compared them next to each other, can tell the diff alittle bit.. but if you see the diamond by itself, it's much harder. I guess it is how perfect you want your diamond to be. hahaha

I know I'm going to buy this ring one time only, so I just wanted it to be perfect. She deserves it anyway.. hahaah. Different places can have different benchmark of Ideal Cut too.. some may not be as Ideal as others.. JP's Super Ideal Cut is one of the strictest in the world.. and their Ideal is like the same standard as other places Super Ideal Cut. So I guess you can't go wrong with JP's Ideal Cut either.

Erm... so JP officially carries ideal now ? Would be good news to many bros

 

[bedposthalo]

When I compared them next to each other, can tell the diff alittle bit.. but if you see the diamond by itself, it's much harder. I guess it is how perfect you want your diamond to be. hahaha

I know I'm going to buy this ring one time only, so I just wanted it to be perfect. She deserves it anyway.. hahaah. Different places can have different benchmark of Ideal Cut too.. some may not be as Ideal as others.. JP's Super Ideal Cut is one of the strictest in the world.. and their Ideal is like the same standard as other places Super Ideal Cut. So I guess you can't go wrong with JP's Ideal Cut either.

Erm... so JP officially carries ideal now ? Would be good news to many bros

I don't think JP does Ideal cut.. The ideal ones they offer is from the House of Hung. If I'm not wrong, House of Hung and JannPaul is father-son business. JannPaul does Super Ideal Cut, House of Hung does normal-Ideal cut diamond. I notice that for the Ideal Cut, the scopes they give is different.
Doesn't state jannpaul..

Guys need your frank opinions again.
What do you think of this stone under the scope images and proportions ?
FYI: This is an "non-super" Ideal from JP.

HCA: 1.5

 

[EricMagnusLensherr]

I don't think JP does Ideal cut.. The ideal ones they offer is from the House of Hung. If I'm not wrong, House of Hung and JannPaul is father-son business. JannPaul does Super Ideal Cut, House of Hung does normal-Ideal cut ediamond. I notice that for the Ideal Cut, the scopes they give is different.
Doesn't state jannpaul..

Yep. That's correct. I thought they officially carry it. Hahaha. Thanks for the example scope images. Any idea about their price diff between ideal and super ideal?

 

[bedposthalo]

Yep. That's correct. I thought they officially carry it. Hahaha. Thanks for the example scope images. Any idea about their price diff between ideal and super ideal?

No idea.. I think it should be priced slightly lower since its the lower tier.

 

[UpperCut]

I don't think JP does Ideal cut.. The ideal ones they offer is from the House of Hung. If I'm not wrong, House of Hung and JannPaul is father-son business. JannPaul does Super Ideal Cut, House of Hung does normal-Ideal cut diamond. I notice that for the Ideal Cut, the scopes they give is different.
Doesn't state jannpaul..

haha I didn't plan to reply to this topic until I see my post there.

here's my opinion

"Super Ideal" is a standard defined by JP. To qualify for that the diamonds first need to be graded Triple Ex and Ideal 000 by GIA or AGS respectively. Next they filter out the diamonds that are out of proportions, have a HCA < 1.4 and have to look good in scope.

Whether Super Ideals / Ideals are exclusively carried by JP or HoH it is all subjective. As you have rightfully noted, they are under the same group. In fact you'd notice a HOH boss checks every transaction on the receipt before it's handed to the customer. My guess is that JP filters out the Super Ideals from the diamonds that HoH brings in and sells them at a premium. (And I think its perfectly fair to pay more for a better product)

I had the privilege to compare 2 stones, Ideal vs Super Ideal but both of equivalent specs (Clarity, Color Carat) and chose the Ideal one after comparing both under fluorescent and led lighting. In fact, most of the bros here commented that the Ideal stone in scope actually looks better. This seems to contradict my previous comment about paying more but I think its a rare case. The Ideal stone I chose was not classified a Super Ideal simply because its HCA is 1.5

In terms of service, I received the same level of attention as other purchasers of super ideal. I was given 3D rendering, scope images (w/o JP logo), Wax Setting, pictures of actual ring after stone was mounted and the youtube video.

http://youtu.be/WHoP6O5ijuA <- Sorry can't get this youtube link to work on this forum

Moral of the story. Before you put down your money on an Super Ideal, ask for an equivalent spec-ed Ideal and you could be saving yourself more than 10% off

 

[bedposthalo]

Thanks for the feedback bros. Some of my frens say use 3 months pay as guide too. My gf is the type who is very easy and even told me don't need to buy too big.. but how am I suppose to know what is too big? lol

Maybe this can help you out

P.S. the 1.5ct looks enormous!

 

[bedposthalo]

haha I didn't plan to reply to this topic until I see my post there.

here's my opinion

"Super Ideal" is a standard defined by JP. To qualify for that the diamonds first need to be graded Triple Ex and Ideal 000 by GIA or AGS respectively. Next they filter out the diamonds that are out of proportions, have a HCA < 1.4 and have to look good in scope.

Whether Super Ideals / Ideals are exclusively carried by JP or HoH it is all subjective. As you have rightfully noted, they are under the same group. In fact you'd notice a HOH boss checks every transaction on the receipt before it's handed to the customer. My guess is that JP filters out the Super Ideals from the diamonds that HoH brings in and sells them at a premium. (And I think its perfectly fair to pay more for a better product)

I had the privilege to compare 2 stones, Ideal vs Super Ideal but both of equivalent specs (Clarity, Color Carat) and chose the Ideal one after comparing both under fluorescent and led lighting. In fact, most of the bros here commented that the Ideal stone in scope actually looks better. This seems to contradict my previous comment about paying more but I think its a rare case. The Ideal stone I chose was not classified a Super Ideal simply because its HCA is 1.5

In terms of service, I received the same level of attention as other purchasers of super ideal. I was given 3D rendering, scope images (w/o JP logo), Wax Setting, pictures of actual ring after stone was mounted and the youtube video.

<- Sorry can't get this youtube link to work on this forum

Moral of the story. Before you put down your money on an Super Ideal, ask for an equivalent spec-ed Ideal and you could be saving yourself more than 10% off

Hihi Uppercut.. hope you didn't mind I used your diamond as example
Helped you load your video~

 

[UpperCut]

Hihi Uppercut.. hope you didn't mind I used your diamond as example
Helped you load your video~

No prob. Always glad to contribute.
Thanks for the video post btw.

 

[EricMagnusLensherr]

haha I didn't plan to reply to this topic until I see my post there.

here's my opinion

"Super Ideal" is a standard defined by JP. To qualify for that the diamonds first need to be graded Triple Ex and Ideal 000 by GIA or AGS respectively. Next they filter out the diamonds that are out of proportions, have a HCA < 1.4 and have to look good in scope.

Whether Super Ideals / Ideals are exclusively carried by JP or HoH it is all subjective. As you have rightfully noted, they are under the same group. In fact you'd notice a HOH boss checks every transaction on the receipt before it's handed to the customer. My guess is that JP filters out the Super Ideals from the diamonds that HoH brings in and sells them at a premium. (And I think its perfectly fair to pay more for a better product)

I had the privilege to compare 2 stones, Ideal vs Super Ideal but both of equivalent specs (Clarity, Color Carat) and chose the Ideal one after comparing both under fluorescent and led lighting. In fact, most of the bros here commented that the Ideal stone in scope actually looks better. This seems to contradict my previous comment about paying more but I think its a rare case. The Ideal stone I chose was not classified a Super Ideal simply because its HCA is 1.5

In terms of service, I received the same level of attention as other purchasers of super ideal. I was given 3D rendering, scope images (w/o JP logo), Wax Setting, pictures of actual ring after stone was mounted and the youtube video.

JannPaul Diamonds Ring Rotation (James Tseng) - YouTube <- Sorry can't get this youtube link to work on this forum

Moral of the story. Before you put down your money on an Super Ideal, ask for an equivalent spec-ed Ideal and you could be saving yourself more than 10% off

Definitely a solid choice bro, and I would definitely say your stone is a super ideal. To me the scopes are the main determinant as this is not the intended use of the HCA. I would say you got a superb deal for a JP. Cheers and thanks sharing the good advise

 

[jxyang888]

haha I didn't plan to reply to this topic until I see my post there.

here's my opinion

"Super Ideal" is a standard defined by JP. To qualify for that the diamonds first need to be graded Triple Ex and Ideal 000 by GIA or AGS respectively. Next they filter out the diamonds that are out of proportions, have a HCA < 1.4 and have to look good in scope.

Whether Super Ideals / Ideals are exclusively carried by JP or HoH it is all subjective. As you have rightfully noted, they are under the same group. In fact you'd notice a HOH boss checks every transaction on the receipt before it's handed to the customer. My guess is that JP filters out the Super Ideals from the diamonds that HoH brings in and sells them at a premium. (And I think its perfectly fair to pay more for a better product)

I had the privilege to compare 2 stones, Ideal vs Super Ideal but both of equivalent specs (Clarity, Color Carat) and chose the Ideal one after comparing both under fluorescent and led lighting. In fact, most of the bros here commented that the Ideal stone in scope actually looks better. This seems to contradict my previous comment about paying more but I think its a rare case. The Ideal stone I chose was not classified a Super Ideal simply because its HCA is 1.5

In terms of service, I received the same level of attention as other purchasers of super ideal. I was given 3D rendering, scope images (w/o JP logo), Wax Setting, pictures of actual ring after stone was mounted and the youtube video.

JannPaul Diamonds Ring Rotation (James Tseng) - YouTube <- Sorry can't get this youtube link to work on this forum

Moral of the story. Before you put down your money on an Super Ideal, ask for an equivalent spec-ed Ideal and you could be saving yourself more than 10% off

Saw the video and I think the diamond is nice!! Uppercut did unrequsted for the YouTube video or they provide it as part of the service? The 3D rendering and wax setting is provided cos u customize your ring?

 

[Tiggerhappy]

Hi, I just bought a ring from JP. The specs are as follows:


ROUND BRILLIANT

Measurements 5.49 - 5.52 x 3.40 mm
Carat Weight 0.63 carat
Color Grade E
Clarity Grade VS2
Cut Grade Excellent
PROPORTIONS

Depth 61.7 %
Table 56 %
Crown Angle 34.5°
Crown Height 15.0%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 50%
Lower Half 80%
Girdle Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 3.5%
Culet None
FINISH

Polish Excellent
Symmetry Excellent
FLUORESCENCE

Fluorescence None
CLARITY CHARACTERISTICS

Clarity Characteristics Crystal


I can see some shadows in the scope, but David says he will try cleaning the diamond before sending me the scope pictures. He says since its vs2 it's basically eye clean. And will not affect the diamond. True?

And hope to get some comments about this diamond too. Thanks

 

[EricMagnusLensherr]

Saw the video and I think the diamond is nice!! Uppercut did u requsted for the YouTube video or they provide it as part of the service? The 3D rendering and wax setting is provided cos u customize your ring?

3D rendering and wax are because he customize, to help him visualize and confirm the design before actual manufacturing. If I'm not wrong, the wax is part of the manufacturing process.

Video wise, i only know they do it for custom designs, not sure if they do it for pre-made designs, but can try asking, they should be happy to oblige.

Hi, I just bought a ring from JP. The specs are as follows:


ROUND BRILLIANT

Measurements 5.49 - 5.52 x 3.40 mm
Carat Weight 0.63 carat
Color Grade E
Clarity Grade VS2
Cut Grade Excellent
PROPORTIONS

Depth 61.7 %
Table 56 %
Crown Angle 34.5°
Crown Height 15.0%
Pavilion Angle 40.8°
Pavilion Depth 43.0%
Star Length 50%
Lower Half 80%
Girdle Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 3.5%
Culet None
FINISH

Polish Excellent
Symmetry Excellent
FLUORESCENCE

Fluorescence None
CLARITY CHARACTERISTICS

Clarity Characteristics Crystal


I can see some shadows in the scope, but David says he will try cleaning the diamond before sending me the scope pictures. He says since its vs2 it's basically eye clean. And will not affect the diamond. True?

And hope to get some comments about this diamond too. Thanks

Numbers wise, very good, nothing much to worry about. Clarity wise, for crystal, check and confirm that it is not only eye clean from the top but from the side as well as most eye clean defination only covers the top. Other then that wait for the scope images.

 

[UpperCut]

Saw the video and I think the diamond is nice!! Uppercut did unrequsted for the YouTube video or they provide it as part of the service? The 3D rendering and wax setting is provided cos u customize your ring?

Thanks for the compliments.

Yea the setting was customized so they provide the 3D render, as for the rest, just ask and you will get it FOC