Proposal Ring - Part 3

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Without looking at the hearts and arrow scope, are you able to tell the diamond is symmetrical based on the aset and ideal scope? I did not receive the hearts and arrow scope but I was thinking its ok as the scopes look ok to my noob eyes.

https://ibb.co/FHyjs05
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Helped you uploaded them. The ASET scope matters the most. The arrows are all straight and symmetrical and the intense light return is great.. lots of red areas. Its just like all their other SICs. I think as long as its JP's SIC range, it'll be safe liao. Their diamonds are all high light performing ones only.

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Helped you uploaded them. The ASET scope matters the most. The arrows are all straight and symmetrical and the intense light return is great.. lots of red areas. Its just like all their other SICs. I think as long as its JP's SIC range, it'll be safe liao. Their diamonds are all high light performing ones only.

CERT-0-74-G-VS2-AGS-104109882007.jpg


Actual-Table-0-74-G-VS2-AGS-104109882007.jpg


Actual-Fire-0-74-G-VS2-AGS-104109882007.jpg


ASET-0-74-G-VS2-AGS-104109882007.jpg


Ideal-0-74-G-VS2-AGS-104109882007.jpg

Without looking at the hearts and arrow scope, are you able to tell the diamond is symmetrical based on the aset and ideal scope? I did not receive the hearts and arrow scope but I was thinking its ok as the scopes look ok to my noob eyes.

https://ibb.co/FHyjs05
https://ibb.co/PZLTtVV
https://ibb.co/s2Tz10s
https://ibb.co/yq1VwR0
https://ibb.co/QCxKwrD

Yup. Symmetry is definitely in their top SIC. If you’re good at looking at the aset u don’t really need to see any other scope actually. Unless you have a black backlit aset then you need hearts to confirm
 

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Yup. Symmetry is definitely in their top SIC. If you’re good at looking at the aset u don’t really need to see any other scope actually. Unless you have a black backlit aset then you need hearts to confirm

Thanks for the upload and input, that's comforting to hear. Now on to the ring design stage!
 

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Are brellia diamonds typically more expensive than round cuts?

The price I was quoted for 0.9 brellia can get above 1.0 ct for round cut. Hmm.
 

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Are brellia diamonds typically more expensive than round cuts?

The price I was quoted for 0.9 brellia can get above 1.0 ct for round cut. Hmm.

If it helps, I got the cushion brellia recently myself and feel that its definitely worth it. It's extremely firey.
I already one already reserved and in the designing process. Got exactly what I wanted and a beautiful touch they have done for me was to add cushion brellia melee diamonds which I didn't know was possible.
The custom cut melees are more expensive than the rounds too but I figured that the cushion has such large fire, it's worth it to bling up the entire ring.

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Overall, I'm extremely impressed with the entire process. My SO loves the cushion and their suggested design exceeded her expectations. This is the current superimpose they did on her hand photo.

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About the pricing, I was told there is more carat wastage incurred when cutting the brellia. So you are right there is about a 5-10% difference in the price compared to the round. But very worth it if your gf wants the best performing cushion.

This is my cushion's scopes

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P.S. If you guys want to know, I was served by a lad named Jerome. He is very friendly and no hard selling at all. He knows his diamond stuff well and I'd recommend anyone to look for him.
 

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The original Cushion Brellia is the highest performing cushion hearts n arrows available in the market. Yes, when it comes to these kind of cuts, there is carat wastage for sure. As dylodocus said, get it if ur gf likes the cushion and its performance. Note that the performance is different from the round SIC. The flashes are bigger that can attract more attention. One thing to note of when considering the Brellia, is its performance is vastly different than the round. This is a consideration to take very carefully as you can see through this video.



The Brellia has larger virtual facets in general, which means if your looking for something extremely firey, this diamond will be more attention grabbing from afar with its bigger flashes.
 

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The original Cushion Brellia is the highest performing cushion hearts n arrows available in the market. Yes, when it comes to these kind of cuts, there is carat wastage for sure. As dylodocus said, get it if ur gf likes the cushion and its performance. Note that the performance is different from the round SIC. The flashes are bigger that can attract more attention. One thing to note of when considering the Brellia, is its performance is vastly different than the round. This is a consideration to take very carefully as you can see through this video.



The Brellia has larger virtual facets in general, which means if your looking for something extremely firey, this diamond will be more attention grabbing from afar with its bigger flashes.

Having watched that video.

I can honestly say that even if there's a difference it's quite minimal.
Like... Which girl will say they would prefer one over the other?
If anything, choosing any one of the cuts in the video will bring a smile to her face won't it?
 

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Having watched that video.

I can honestly say that even if there's a difference it's quite minimal.
Like... Which girl will say they would prefer one over the other?
If anything, choosing any one of the cuts in the video will bring a smile to her face won't it?

They definitely look different, not only by characteristics of their fire and scintillation but by their unique shapes, pair that with a desirable setting design, girls do want a ring that suits their taste you know. For example I’m attracted more to higher scintillating diamonds which is why I’ve placed a down deposit for a shipment of their decagon :) I’ve seen the prototype ;)
 

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Hi experts,

1) Would you guys be concerned getting a diamond with a certificate that is years ago like 4-5 years?

Some caution against it for fear that it could have been possibly re-sold or possibly a used diamond. And as it was certified 4-5 years ago, it’s also possible that the diamond had been chipped/damaged in any way which would not be reflected in the certificate?

I read online and some says surely it’s been somewhere but it’s impossible to know the history of the diamond like where it’s been unlike flats/arts/cars. But not that I mind it’s a used diamond, I care more on whether it’s been damaged since it was last certified.

What do you guys think? TIA :)


2) Also, has anyone here bought diamonds from WD? Care to share your thoughts or review? TIA :)
 

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Hi experts,

1) Would you guys be concerned getting a diamond with a certificate that is years ago like 4-5 years?

Some caution against it for fear that it could have been possibly re-sold or possibly a used diamond. And as it was certified 4-5 years ago, it’s also possible that the diamond had been chipped/damaged in any way which would not be reflected in the certificate?

I read online and some says surely it’s been somewhere but it’s impossible to know the history of the diamond like where it’s been unlike flats/arts/cars. But not that I mind it’s a used diamond, I care more on whether it’s been damaged since it was last certified.

What do you guys think? TIA :)


2) Also, has anyone here bought diamonds from WD? Care to share your thoughts or review? TIA :)

Although diamonds are meant to be ''forever'', 4-5 years sounds fishy. It can also mean that this diamond was not sold for 4-5 years, and you might wonder why. It being re-sold or used can be a high possibility too. Like you said if its used and damaged, it wont be on the certificate since the certificate only states the condition of the diamond in that 4-5 years ago.

I would personally prefer a more recent certificate for that peace of mind.
 

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Hi experts,

1) Would you guys be concerned getting a diamond with a certificate that is years ago like 4-5 years?

Some caution against it for fear that it could have been possibly re-sold or possibly a used diamond. And as it was certified 4-5 years ago, it’s also possible that the diamond had been chipped/damaged in any way which would not be reflected in the certificate?

I read online and some says surely it’s been somewhere but it’s impossible to know the history of the diamond like where it’s been unlike flats/arts/cars. But not that I mind it’s a used diamond, I care more on whether it’s been damaged since it was last certified.

What do you guys think? TIA :)


2) Also, has anyone here bought diamonds from WD? Care to share your thoughts or review? TIA :)

So long as the stone is recertified before u purchase. The jeweller should cover that.

Where do u think your JP SIC goes after u trade in 10yrs later? U pay for the recertifications and it’s back in circulation with an updated cert

The only difference is that JP has stated upfront that u pay for recertifications after 2yrs whereas other jewellers might take in your ‘old’ stone to help u upgrade, but only recertify it when a potential customer comes up
 
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Although diamonds are meant to be ''forever'', 4-5 years sounds fishy. It can also mean that this diamond was not sold for 4-5 years, and you might wonder why. It being re-sold or used can be a high possibility too. Like you said if its used and damaged, it wont be on the certificate since the certificate only states the condition of the diamond in that 4-5 years ago.

I would personally prefer a more recent certificate for that peace of mind.

Thanks 1000smiles for your valuable input. :) I agree with you that 4-5 years sound fishy and I was indeed wondering why. Am thinking of asking the jeweller and see their reply. But of course, getting one with a more recent certificate will be better. May I know how would you define recent, anything not more than 2 years?
 

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So long as the stone is recertified before u purchase. The jeweller should cover that.

Where do u think your JP SIC goes after u trade in 10yrs later? U pay for the recertifications and it’s back in circulation with an updated cert

The only difference is that JP has stated upfront that u pay for recertifications after 2yrs whereas other jewellers might take in your ‘old’ stone to help u upgrade, but only recertify it when a potential customer comes up

Thanks Miltah for your valuable input. :)

I will check with the jeweller to see if they will recertify the diamond for my purchase. And if they don’t cover the cost to recertify it, I supposed it’s not that safe to go ahead to make the purchase?

Thanks for your explanation. I did not wonder where will it go after one trade-in as I supposed some may feel more sentimental with their current diamond and so it’s less likely for them to sell it or upgrade to a better diamond.

By any chance, do you know of which jeweller that will work with loose diamond purchased off online like (WF, BG or JA) and ring setting purchased from them? Because so far of the ones I’ve checked with, many jewellers only work with both loose diamond and setting purchased from them. TIA :)
 

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Thanks 1000smiles for your valuable input. :) I agree with you that 4-5 years sound fishy and I was indeed wondering why. Am thinking of asking the jeweller and see their reply. But of course, getting one with a more recent certificate will be better. May I know how would you define recent, anything not more than 2 years?

I think under 2 years would still be ok.
 

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Thanks Miltah for your valuable input. :)

I will check with the jeweller to see if they will recertify the diamond for my purchase. And if they don’t cover the cost to recertify it, I supposed it’s not that safe to go ahead to make the purchase?

By any chance, do you know of which jeweller that will work with loose diamond purchased off online like (WF, BG or JA) and ring setting purchased from them? Because so far of the ones I’ve checked with, many jewellers only work with both loose diamond and setting purchased from them. TIA :)

Frankly, u are buying the stone. U should ask them to cover the cost. I would not touch the stone without a recent cert

Bennys Gem and Canary will set it. But I had better service at Canary than Bennys.
 

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Frankly, u are buying the stone. U should ask them to cover the cost. I would not touch the stone without a recent cert

Bennys Gem and Canary will set it. But I had better service at Canary than Bennys.

Thanks, I’ll check with the jeweller and see what they say.

Thanks for sharing jewellers who do. May I know how much does it cost? Or do they do it for free as long as I purchase either one of the ring component (loose diamond or setting) from them?
 

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you guys brought up a good point on the age of certification... you think a 16 -20 months old JP SIC cert is a safe bet?
 
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