Proposal Ring - Part 3

[xtwis7]

the $$$ though

Since i've got proposal ring from JP, now thinking of getting wedding bad from a brand name.

Anybody knows the rough estimate for plain wedding bands (no diamonds , or just a small diamond for the girl's ring) for each shop?

Tiffany and co
Love and co
Feel free to add on from shops you've visited.

Material (whitegold/rose gold)

gf is leaning towards T&C but there is chop carrot head right?

I think you want Tiff & Co the bands will probably be $2-3k for the pair? I'd rather pay Cartier in that case cause Tiff & Co is really ****.

 

[derazor]

I think you want Tiff & Co the bands will probably be $2-3k for the pair? I'd rather pay Cartier in that case cause Tiff & Co is really ****.

That day I went to both T&C and Cartier. The latter's design more or less the same as T. I feel Lee Hwa and gang should have better design.

Do you guys go for platinum since it's more hardy for daily wear and tear?

 

[derazor]

Your friend probably gotten a really bad cut with horrible color & clarity lol. A friend of mine gotten a diamond from a gem fair last year too, about 10k for 1 CT, but it wasn't a good piece, the HCA was almost 3. Most of the dealer will not educate you on the diamond, they will just sell to you anything and earn their commission.

fair where got time to educate. volume is the key, touch and go to sell is the key.

 

[derazor]

If you're not so anal on getting 'best of the best' cut, go have a look at JP's ideal series (not super ideal), their quality is comparable with those signature cuts the online stores are selling but JP's ideal are probably cheaper comparing the same specs. I think you can try go for F/G color, VS2.

Yeah not going for the best of the best but end state if I can differentiate visually why not.

 

[jysw1986]

Your friend probably gotten a really bad cut with horrible color & clarity lol. A friend of mine gotten a diamond from a gem fair last year too, about 10k for 1 CT, but it wasn't a good piece, the HCA was almost 3. Most of the dealer will not educate you on the diamond, they will just sell to you anything and earn their commission.

totally agree.
he knows nothing about it.
he just know the carat size. Lol

I didn't want to make him feel that it was a bad buy or etc.
So i just said well done, you got ur diamond. next is to get a jeweller to set it on a ring.

Prefer not to demotivate him if he find out he bought it already.

 

[KinoChoco]

Yeah not going for the best of the best but end state if I can differentiate visually why not.

I'll say visually, JP's ideal vs super ideal maybe only 5-10% differences in visual and it's not really that easy to spot the difference. But the price difference i believe its 15-20%.

So ultimately, depends on you. IMO, ideal is 'good enough' and super ideal is more of you can boost to your partner or friends that you got the 'top tier best standard perfect cut' in the world.

PS: Just head down to JP and ask them show you ideal vs super ideal in person under normal lighting or bring it out of the shop (they are willing to walk out with you to check it out)

 

[Hidetoshi]

Jann Paul price issit non-nego? Any sales person that is really good and HWZ-approved?

 

[derazor]

I'll say visually, JP's ideal vs super ideal maybe only 5-10% differences in visual and it's not really that easy to spot the difference. But the price difference i believe its 15-20%.

So ultimately, depends on you. IMO, ideal is 'good enough' and super ideal is more of you can boost to your partner or friends that you got the 'top tier best standard perfect cut' in the world.

PS: Just head down to JP and ask them show you ideal vs super ideal in person under normal lighting or bring it out of the shop (they are willing to walk out with you to check it out)

Yeah thanks will go down after CNY currently quite busy. But I also subscribe to CUT is the most important.

 

[bb_100]

Bros and sis, which one do you guys think is the most elegant looking ehh? These belong to the Verragio Parisian collection. I am personally undecided between options C and E.

Your opinions are welcomed!

Since this thread is starting to gain traction after a long silence, kindly allow me to repost this for more responses.

 

[bb_100]

Jann Paul price issit non-nego? Any sales person that is really good and HWZ-approved?

I was thick skinned enough to nego. Managed to shave $100 off their listed price haha. That was after sweet talking the salesperson and the boss himself haha.

Any JannPaul salesperson is good. Each of them has his/her own style and humour. If you wanna speak to a chio bu then there is no other but Joy. Her smile will melt you (and your wallet if you are not careful haha).

 

[Draculav]

Aside from online vs brick and mortar...

Sorry newbie here.. just saying my thoughts after reading this https://www.diamonds.pro/loose-diamonds-certified-diamond-prices/

. I'm actually looking at 0.7x ct

I mean it's good to see scope etc that's the most ideal case la but what if one dumb down to able to see with the visual eye as most ppl won't bring a lope around . Also the 2nd thing I want to mention is if one doesn't put another side by side I feel it's difficult to see the difference. Probably it could boil down to buy something that you feel it's good enough . Of course I still prefer to go down to a brick and mortar location la so that one can see. Comments pls?

Cheers

The scopes or loupe isnt meant to bring and compare around but more to determine the quality of the diamond to check if you're paying a fair price for it. The diamond quality can be seperated into 3 tiers. Super Ideal cuts, Ideal cuts and usual GIA EXC x3 cuts. Which tier you want will affect the price. The scopes are basically to ensure that you don't get cheated on the quality and price your paying becos in the certificate, you won't be able to tell accurately which tier your diamond belongs to.

JP has some videos explaining this.

And beware of those jewelry shop lights in brick and motar stores

 

[derazor]

Stupid but valid question...

Does your wife wear the Diamond daily? I think most don't only reserve for special occasions. Wedding bands is daily.

 

[Draculav]

Stupid but valid question...

Does your wife wear the Diamond daily? I think most don't only reserve for special occasions. Wedding bands is daily.

Mine wears both everyday

 

[derazor]

Yeh seems like Diamond Price is trending down

http://www.idexonline.com/diamond_prices_index

 

[KinoChoco]

Yeh seems like Diamond Price is trending down

http://www.idexonline.com/diamond_prices_index

Yeah but USD/SGD is trending up, so not good for us.

Haha.

 

[derazor]

Yeah but USD/SGD is trending up, so not good for us.

Haha.

Now is at 1.43. so not as bad as 1.48

 

[staedtler_07]

Hi guys, wondering what type of wedding ring will match with a full eternity wedding band? Something simple or with side stones?

 

[Hidetoshi]

Hi guys,

I have a question on the HCA score. I have a diamond that is all well within the ideal range but somehow the HCA score is 3.9. I tried another ring that is a bit off the ideal range and it is 0.7.

Any idea how much emphasis we need to put on this?

Please advise. Thank you.

 

[mero_cwj]

Hi guys,

I have a question on the HCA score. I have a diamond that is all well within the ideal range but somehow the HCA score is 3.9. I tried another ring that is a bit off the ideal range and it is 0.7.

Any idea how much emphasis we need to put on this?

Please advise. Thank you.

What do you mean by ideal range?

HCA is used as an elimination tool, which means that you can be sure that anything with high HCA will be a bad performing diamond, but doesn't necessarily mean that a diamond with low HCA will be a good diamond. This is because it doesn't factor in all the facets of a round brilliant cut diamond. The standard procedure is to use HCA to sieve out the diamonds which are definitely low performing, then analyse the remaining using scopes.

Also, note that the HCA tool is only to be used for 57 facet round brilliant cut diamonds.

 

[Hidetoshi]

thank you for your reply!

May i ask you guys thoughts on H diamond? Is it acceptable for yall?